Can The Almighty God Create Something That He Cannot Destroy ? (91)

Shut up. The evidence is needed to prove that this is the end of scientific discovery in this field, not the contrary.

It's simply the way that science works, one discovery leading to another - sub atoms themselves appeared at first to be anarchic, until you begin to play around with them and you find rules that, whilst seemingly counter-intuitive, nonetheless exist and can be best described as eerie. Higgs himself believes this particle isn't anywhere near as "god"-like as the press releases make it out to be.

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Well that is the popular description of this monumental discovery, and of course you know better than all the experts in their field, I don't think so, you think you know it all but all you are good at is your mysoginistc posts, in my opinion you are all mouth and no substance, pick on women as you usually do.

I don't know better than the experts. This IS what the experts are saying.. thanks to the Higgs Boson scientists expect to find a range of particles beyond the standard model. This is NOT the end.

But I forgive you your hubris, it is a comon trait amongst shallow thinkers.

We know that stars in heaven, super nova and are destroyed. Never
to give light again. Some of them become black holes in the Universe. Warping even time and space into them. Any solid material brought into the grasp of a black hole is destroyed into minute fragments. I would call that destroyed. So assuming that God made the stars.....he also made a way to destroy them and the planets that circle them.

"God counted the number of stars and he calls them by name." Psalm 147:4 King David wrote the Psalms.

"Though he slay me, yet I will hope in him. I will defend my ways before him." Job13:15

Most of us would consider death a kind of destruction. But to others it might be considered a kind of transformation.

I don't know better than the experts. This IS what the experts are saying.. thanks to the Higgs Boson scientists expect to find a range of particles beyond the standard model. This is NOT the end.

ed "Higgs boson" particle would be one of the greatest achievements in science, rivalling the discovery of the structure of DNA in 1953 and the Apollo Moon landings of the 1960s and 1970s. It can explain why some particles have mass, but why others, such as photons of light, do not.

Although the discovery is consistent with such a particle – first postulated half a century ago by the retired British physicist Peter Higgs – scientists at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (Cern) in Geneva stopped short of saying this was definitely what they had found.

Yet such is the degree of exactitude to which they work, they were still able to calculate that the new particle is very near to the "five-sigma" level of significance – meaning that there is less than a one in a million chance that their results are a statistical fluke.

A Higgs boson particle is essential to the so-called Standard Model of physics – the generally accepted theory about how the Universe works. Finding it would effectively confirm the Standard Model, explaining the results of countless physics experiments and why other particles behave the way they do. Knowing definitively that it exists would show science is heading in the right direction and will allow researchers to concentrate their efforts accordingly – opening the door to new discoveries.

One Nobel prize-winning physicist famously called it the "God particle" because of its central role in theoretical physics – although Professor Higgs and his colleagues at Cern have come to despise the term and its religious undertones.

Higgs, 83 and long retired from the University of Edinburgh, was in the audience yesterday in Geneva to hear the results of the two largest experiments attached to the Large Hadron Collider, the circular underground machine that smashes sub-atomic particles together at enormous energy levels.

Both sets of experiments had neatly and independently confirmed the existence of a new sub-atomic particle with a mass of about 125.5 GeV (gigaelectron volts), which is about 133 times heavier than the protons at the heart of every atom.

Professor Higgs, one of several retired scientists invited to listen in person, wiped away tears as the data were revealed by Cern researchers. He said he had asked his family back home in Edinburgh's Morningside to put a bottle of champagne in the fridge.

Although the data just falls short of absolute confirmation, the scientists were in little doubt that what they had found was a sub-atomic entity fitting its description, as predicted by the Standard Model of physics, a theoretical framework bringing together the disparate forces of nature.

"As a layman, I would say that I think we have it. Do you agree?" said Rolf Dieter Heuer, director general of Cern, at the end of the presentations. The rapturous applause that met his hypothetical question said it all.

"We have a discovery. We have observed a new particle consistent with a Higgs boson… but which one, it remains open," he added. Further work will be necessary to elucidate the precise characteristics of the new sub-atomic particle – and whether it is indeed one of perhaps several types of Higgs boson.

Theoretical physicists have long postulated that Higgs particles permeate the Universe, creating an invisible energy field that causes other particles of matter to have mass, allowing matter to coalesce into larger objects such as molecules, stars and planets.

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Yep, and there going to find laws and mechanics within the field that is the Higgs Boson. It's a remarkable discovery, I never said it wasn't, it just isn't the last one - a notion you described as "outlandish".

Of course it won't be the last but certainly one of the most significant. I do appreciate that you don't understand the significance of this particular milestone. I suggest you go back and play with the women although you seem to wind them up a bit

You spoke incorrectly out of the desire to cut me down, which I can perfectly understand.

Then there's a question about the power of "Almighty" of the God.

You're right, and I was wrong. To say it can be destroyed suggests that some kind of external power is doing so. No, I believe everything dissolves of its own accord and then later comes to form something new.

I generally accept the view that there is never any "more" or "less" in creation and all that differs is the "space" between things, which we perceive as time. And as I favour the mathematical understanding over the mechanic, I believe, like you, that modern science will never give us all the answers.

Reason has its own distinctive approach to Reality and apprehends it, albeit to a limited extent. The greatest achievement of reason is science. Science employs methods which are perfectly valid and yields true knowledge within its proper sphere. Reason certainly has its limitations but sceptics declare it to be absolutely unreliable. This is not true. The telescope enables us to see heavenly bodies which we cannot see with the naked eye. It would be unreasonable to react its aid on the ground that it does not extend our vision to the outermost regions of the universe. Similarly, it is no doubt true that reason cannot give us absolute knowledge, nevertheless the knowledge it does achieve, however small, is useful and valuable. The old adage, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" is only partially true, as traditional maxims are. A little knowledge is only dangerous when we take it to be complete knowledge. Every fragment of knowledge is useful if we apply it with intelligence and with full awareness that it reveals only a fraction of reality. But if it is wrong to despise and reject human reason as an unreliable guide, or belittle its value, it is equally wrong to exaggerate it and claim that the whole of reality is within its ken. Only a few aspects of reality are accessible to reason and about them it does supply true and useful knowledge. Reality, however, has an infinity of aspects, and all of them as well as the very core of reality, reason will always find inaccessible. Reason can legitimately function within its own sphere and ceases to be reliable the moment it steps beyond it. Wisdom requires that we should form a correct estimate of the capacity of human reason as well as of its limitations. We can put it to the best use only when we know what it can do and what it cannot. Some scholars, dazzled by the spectacular and soaring success of modern science, believe that the time is not far off when science will have solved the riddle of the Universe and will be able to answer any question that we care to ask regarding man and the world. The universe to them is a gigantic machine, which, though immensely complex, can yet be understood fully and exploited by human reason. This presumption attitude is hardly justified and, if not corrected soon, can do us great harm. Wise men, including great scientists, are aware that reason can never fathom reality. What Shakespeare wrote in the seventeenth century is still true when science has seemingly reached its meridian:

Well...and this may not the end. And Higgs Boson also is not a stable permanent thing.

Love
Those who disagree do not know love. He created it, why would he destroy it? Even Non Christians know what love is. When it fails, it is because there was no love. Love is not founded on flesh but in the heart.

two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.
--Albert Einstein --

Almighty God isnt interested doing stupid things.