do you have a stain of sin in your past? (77)
peachmelba: .. I actually don't use the word sins anymore it was bred into us from the catholic religion,,,
According to psychoanalysis, the awareness of sin appears in a pre-cultural and even pre-linguistic stage (promal scene) I am afraid that It has nothing to do with relgion, catholiC or not.
FIGANTROPO: According to psychoanalysis, the awareness of sin appears in a pre-cultural and even pre-linguistic stage (promal scene) I am afraid that It has nothing to do with relgion, catholiC or not.
Would that not be the concept of right and wrong, rather than sin?
sirLarryIII: Technically speaking,in order for eve to be tempt adam with the forbidden fruit there had to be a tree producing the aforementioned fruit in the first place,which was in all honesty put there by the gawd beforehand.
It was all one big shakedown
It was all one big shakedown
She should have claimed it to be unfair entrapment
FIGANTROPO: According to psychoanalysis, the awareness of sin appears in a pre-cultural and even pre-linguistic stage (promal scene) I am afraid that It has nothing to do with relgion, catholiC or not.
Well I was not aware of that I did think the term sin was manifested by religious order,
It's just I don't use the word sin . Bad decisions , choices I call it some are intent on doing something they know is wrong anyway. Some people don't allow a bad thing to be on their conscience because they don't care who they hurting or even themselves. Some people are not aware of what there doing is wrong,,
mollybaby: Would that not be the concept of right and wrong, rather than sin?
In the primal scene the child feels the intention to kill and this intention is the sin on wich he will build the sense of guilty that will make his analyst rich. I am not in the position to establish if and how this has something to do with a primordial ethos.
,In the primal scene the child feels the intention to kill and this intention is the sin on wich he will build the sense of guilty that will make his analyst rich. I am not in the position to establish if and how this has something to do with a primordial ethos.[/quot
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If a child is left to his or own devices with no self regard for himself or anyone else and is shown no unconditional love how then would he know or she know the difference,how would they gain wisdom to know of respect and love.
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If a child is left to his or own devices with no self regard for himself or anyone else and is shown no unconditional love how then would he know or she know the difference,how would they gain wisdom to know of respect and love.
Interesting question. I have no clue by the way. My understanding is that at the earliest stages of consciousnes right and wrong are the result of the balance or the conflict of our own impulses.
FIGANTROPO: Interesting question. I have no clue by the way. My understanding is that at the earliest stages of consciousnes right and wrong are the result of the balance or the conflict of our own impulses.
We are all influenced by our peers .people around us,,circumstances at the time and the envoironment....genetic diseases of the brain ....one in the time of a sickness for instance may be impaired from making a conscience decision and therefore could act irrationally..every and everyone's set of circumstances is different .some may make a willingly conscience decision knowing that their action is wrong to themselves but carry on regardless,,others make a conscience decision not aware at the time of the consequences that there wrong doing mwill have either for themselves or others,so it is really about whether a person has a conscience or not for it to play on their mind and then make a conscience decision to make amends for their actions ,,as I said some people may not even be aware of their wrong doing as they have no insight into what they did was wrong but seemingly so to others around them.
sirLarryIII: These are a sin against good taste
Especially for you larry! West End Girls
peachmelba: We are all influenced by our peers .people around us,,circumstances at the time and the envoironment....genetic diseases of the brain ....one in the time of a sickness for instance may be impaired from making a conscience decision and therefore could act irrationally..every and everyone's set of circumstances is different .some may make a willingly conscience decision knowing that their action is wrong to themselves but carry on regardless,,others make a conscience decision not aware at the time of the consequences that there wrong doing mwill have either for themselves or others,so it is really about whether a person has a conscience or not for it to play on their mind and then make a conscience decision to make amends for their actions ,,as I said some people may not even be aware of their wrong doing as they have no insight into what they did was wrong but seemingly so to others around them.
I agree but I thing that the idea of sin goes beyond right and wrong. It is related to the infringment of something in wich the individual recognize a sort of sacrality, indipendently from the surrounding system of values. I would say that a sin is whatever generate a sense of guilty.
That may happen for shared rules or even in an individual affected by autism.
In short it is about a person knowing the difference to know right from wrong and the wisdom to know the difference,
I agree but I thing that the idea of sin goes beyond right and wrong. It is related to the infringment of something in wich the individual recognize a sort of sacrality, indipendently from the surrounding system of values. I would say that a sin is whatever generate a sense of guilty.
That may happen for shared rules or even in an individual affected by autism.[/quote
Would you agree that when a person is aware that they have done wrong and wants to make amends and have the courage to change the things he or she can that the first thing would be to have compassion for themselves first to enable them then to show and be compassionate for to others.
That may happen for shared rules or even in an individual affected by autism.[/quote
Would you agree that when a person is aware that they have done wrong and wants to make amends and have the courage to change the things he or she can that the first thing would be to have compassion for themselves first to enable them then to show and be compassionate for to others.
If it works why not. Theoretically speaking is quite fascinating.
If it works why not. Theoretically speaking is quite fascinating.[/quote.
It's quite simplistic really unless one makes it complicated for themselves...
It's quite simplistic really unless one makes it complicated for themselves...
If it works why not. Theoretically speaking is quite fascinating.[/quot. Isn't that what life is we as human beings make mistakes and when we are aware they are mistakes we have a choice whether we want to learn by them and make changes within ourselves,,.
Absolutely. You described a clever strategy for errors management. Sins remain another matter where the first who will not forgive the sin is often the sinner.
FIGANTROPO: Absolutely. You described a clever strategy for errors management. Sins remain another matter where the first who will not forgive the sin is often the sinner.
Who may I ask is your judge of sins.
My superego, but I fired it ages ago.
Who may I ask is your judge of sins.[/quo.t
Well call me a sinner then because if I see injustice done onto others in an horrific way I try to understand their reason of why. And sometimes I find it hard to see rhyme or reason for some actions taken by people to inflict torture death on ...if someone harmed my very own family I find it hard to forgive too,
Well call me a sinner then because if I see injustice done onto others in an horrific way I try to understand their reason of why. And sometimes I find it hard to see rhyme or reason for some actions taken by people to inflict torture death on ...if someone harmed my very own family I find it hard to forgive too,
FIGANTROPO: My superego, but I fired it ages ago.
Oh okay .welcome to the Irish threads by the way,,,are you from Germany,?
Nein, ich bin Italiener. Thank you by the way.
Nein, ich bin Italiener. Thank you by the way.[/quote.
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
peachmelba: Nein, ich bin Italiener. Thank you by the way.[/quote.
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
Meant to type German and Italian
peachmelba: Nein, ich bin Italiener. Thank you by the way.[/quote.
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
Does that mean half Dutch half Italian,?
According to google translate that should mean "no, I am Italian" in German language.
(Somehow I am half French...)
FIGANTROPO: According to google translate that should mean "no, I am Italian" in German language.
(Somehow I am half French...)
(Somehow I am half French...)
Why do you use German if you are half Italian and half French,
To match your nothern expectations...
We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?
We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?
To match your nothern expectations...
We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?[/quote
Just to let you know we often get sidetracked from the title of the thread that's just the way it is, I hope I wasn't being too personal asking why you would type in German when you are in fact Italian and for some reason you say you are half French,.....you are not matching my expectations by speaking German,...as I do not know of the language ,,maybe it's for your own self for some reason known to yourself your reason for doing so.,,
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We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?[/quote
Just to let you know we often get sidetracked from the title of the thread that's just the way it is, I hope I wasn't being too personal asking why you would type in German when you are in fact Italian and for some reason you say you are half French,.....you are not matching my expectations by speaking German,...as I do not know of the language ,,maybe it's for your own self for some reason known to yourself your reason for doing so.,,
.Cool.
No worries, I have a very different Idea of "going personal".
I answered in german simply because you asked if I was from Germany.
(Probably I should be worried if I gave you that impression)
Have a good night
No worries, I have a very different Idea of "going personal".
I answered in german simply because you asked if I was from Germany.
(Probably I should be worried if I gave you that impression)
Have a good night
FIGANTROPO: To match your nothern expectations...
We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?
We are going ferociously of topics' is that a sin around there?
Well it was interesting to have discussion and as I said welcome to the Irish threads.
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