venere08: Ah, writing from the Ukraine are we now? Bags of money with you? Got her by the hair yet?
Are you talking about the X- factor? Don't you dare say he is my man. Besides, it seems I don't have one that could be remotely described as my man right now. Foot in mouth disease, ya know.
Atlantic salmon? I could easily go and buy some fresh fillets. Just tell me when you leave the Ukraine though. And don't bring the fleusy with you though!
Yeah the X Factor.
Still can't learn to speak with my fingers........at least not on the internet Anyway in Ireland........ Your Man = Him There Thats 3 times this week i've confused people and 1 of them was me
Anyway I need to drag my new Ukrainian woman by the hair into our cave.....she's gettin off light today just a 16 hour day, and i've had a few beverages with Barney Rubble so it shd take just a minute or 2
Don't mind that plonker, you never lost your cool and were nearly always respectful......not too bad for a Sheila
trish123: Al is great thanks, he's having fun elsewhere now
Those Dublin meets are something else arent they - I had a great time at the one last Jan, met some lovely people and I love Dublin too
Yeah we had a ball.......great people.
I dip in and out of the Ir forums as am plannin on travellin a lot next year.............do a few things I shd have done 20 odd years ago and startin 2 make a couple friends around world which is gr8.
I know the feeling - I hope you have great fun on your travels, theres a lot of world to see thats for sure and I intend seeing a lot more of it myself too within the next year or two with a bit of luck
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
vinny1967: Hi Gilly
My Father is an extrovert and My Mother was an Introvert.
The problem I have is every second night I change, so last night I was a bit introverted but tonight I'm being an extrovert.
Now I have serious problems with this when it comes to relationships as the Ladies aren't really sure who's goin to turn up, if you know what I mean.
Anyway thanks for bringing this up as it's been a problem for a while and I'm hopin for some intelligent advice.
HI VINNY I'M BACK FOR A WHILE BEFORE I FALL ASLEEP AGAIN !
now before we start talking your interesting stuff i was drinking with some very interesting people on friday ..one of them was a great internationally minded south african white girl that lived in canada for a while , travelled a lot, recently went to cork , and decided to
' KISS THE BLARNEY STONE '
in blarney castle .! .. and she what you have to you before you can even reach the blarney stone !... it sounded a bit like raiders of the lost arc
have you ever been there ?
because it sounds like once you've been there you'll never run out of things to say again my friend
LACaliSouthern California, California USA936 posts
gillyloves69: HI VINNY I'M BACK FOR A WHILE BEFORE I FALL ASLEEP AGAIN !
now before we start talking your interesting stuff i was drinking with some very interesting people on friday ..one of them was a great internationally minded south african white girl that lived in canada for a while , travelled a lot, recently went to cork , and decided to
' KISS THE BLARNEY STONE '
in blarney castle .! .. and she what you have to you before you can even reach the blarney stone !... it sounded a bit like raiders of the lost arc
have you ever been there ?
because it sounds like once you've been there you'll never run out of things to say again my friend
:
IMO kissing the blarney stone all you'll get is herpes
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
vinny1967: Hi Gilly,
Every red blooded Irish Male can sing Ir Folk & rebel songs in public especially after a big bowl (barrel) of soup Haven't been in a couple of years but I would love that mate If only to finish that kebab
They raised me to be an extrovert. But they also thought me someting I will never forget. I have 2 ears and 1 mouth and I should use them accordingly. Sometimes I forget though. What about our genes........I have 3 very different brothers all raised the same way. 3 extrovert though.Anyway always good to see ya.
Hi Ven, & Trish........Hope your well.
now thats very interesting vinny ! what part of ireland were you raised then ?
by the way i've got one brother that lives abroad thats so introverted ( even more introverted than my father that i can't even talk to for more than 5 miniuites because you end up folding back on yourself ! HE DOES NO TALKING WHAT SO EVER
:
it does'nt matter what anybody does or says to him he just listens and does'nt talk
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
DizzyDi: Hi Gilly
just got chance at the computer, dropped youngest off with one of the eldest, as trish says she is drinking lemonade and I am on the lager ! think my kids have varying degree's of disorder's 2 of which are extrovert, 2 inrtovert and the court is still out on the fifth Ha! hope you have a good holiday ! love Di
thanks di !
hows everything going in the sociology world then darling ? and more importantly what have you bought me for christmas ??
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
mylifewithu: We have a poll up to ask for changing All Threads to our Default page. So we don't have to do as much navigating to get here. In case anyone wants to know
Still can't learn to speak with my fingers........at least not on the internet Anyway in Ireland........ Your Man = Him There Thats 3 times this week i've confused people and 1 of them was me
Anyway I need to drag my new Ukrainian woman by the hair into our cave.....she's gettin off light today just a 16 hour day, and i've had a few beverages with Barney Rubble so it shd take just a minute or 2
Don't mind that plonker, you never lost your cool and were nearly always respectful......not too bad for a Sheila
I think it was mainly due to the availability of these dear little emo's. You know, these..
They helped me get through the ordeal of talking to the brick wall. If I remember correctly, one kind CS'er came to my rescue on one occasion, which gave me a bit of a reprieve.
Anyway, remember to let me know when you have returned from the Ukraine. And please ensure you leave your cave man ways where you found them. Or they will only suffer in translation
Ok, the question may have been worded a bit strange... but I think it´s an interesting topic. I was really shy as a child and went through hell because of it... kids can be really cruel and don´t recognize shyness, instead they think you´re stuck up. I can remember hiding in the bathrooms at recess time because I was afraid that other kids wouldn´t ask me to play.
I never wanted my daughter to go through the same experiences and she was naturally introverted... I bribed, coerced, paid... basically did what ever it took to get her to try new things, talk to people etc. She´s still not what you would call an extrovert, but she never went through the hell of being painfully shy.
Had she been raised by an extrovert they might not have gone to the efforts that I did to help her overcome her shyness.
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
jbibiza: Ok, the question may have been worded a bit strange... but I think it´s an interesting topic. I was really shy as a child and went through hell because of it... kids can be really cruel and don´t recognize shyness, instead they think you´re stuck up. I can remember hiding in the bathrooms at recess time because I was afraid that other kids wouldn´t ask me to play.
I never wanted my daughter to go through the same experiences and she was naturally introverted... I bribed, coerced, paid... basically did what ever it took to get her to try new things, talk to people etc. She´s still not what you would call an extrovert, but she never went through the hell of being painfully shy.
Had she been raised by an extrovert they might not have gone to the efforts that I did to help her overcome her shyness.
you're coming out with some interesting stuff again jbibiza !
you've proven once again that ....
INTERESTING PEOPLE IS WHAT MAKES INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS ...NOT INTERESTING TOPICS !!!
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT TO REACH WHERE YOU ARE NOW !
Gilly, I want to ask you this question, not out of being critical but out of concern. Are you seeing a therapist? It seems you have some issues with your childhood you are trying to get rid of. A person trained in childhood trauma can help you through that process. I know Buddy, been there. The other side is a hell of alot better than all the pain you are suffering right now.
buzzy: Gilly, I want to ask you this question, not out of being critical but out of concern. Are you seeing a therapist? It seems you have some issues with your childhood you are trying to get rid of. A person trained in childhood trauma can help you through that process. I know Buddy, been there. The other side is a hell of alot better than all the pain you are suffering right now.
OMG. I should be getting off here, just a brief visit, now I read this!
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
jbibiza: Ok, the question may have been worded a bit strange... but I think it´s an interesting topic. I was really shy as a child and went through hell because of it... kids can be really cruel and don´t recognize shyness, instead they think you´re stuck up. I can remember hiding in the bathrooms at recess time because I was afraid that other kids wouldn´t ask me to play.
I never wanted my daughter to go through the same experiences and she was naturally introverted... I bribed, coerced, paid... basically did what ever it took to get her to try new things, talk to people etc. She´s still not what you would call an extrovert, but she never went through the hell of being painfully shy.
Had she been raised by an extrovert they might not have gone to the efforts that I did to help her overcome her shyness.
WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WERE SHY AS A KID THEN ?
i was shy and had a stutter and inferioty complex asa kid going into my twenty's
i blame my father because he was a huge man that i felt intimidated by , and was also the last and most sensitive child in a line of seven children coming from him....so who was i to argue about
" the way people do things around here and relate to me " as a young child ????
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
buzzy: Gilly, I want to ask you this question, not out of being critical but out of concern. Are you seeing a therapist? It seems you have some issues with your childhood you are trying to get rid of. A person trained in childhood trauma can help you through that process. I know Buddy, been there. The other side is a hell of alot better than all the pain you are suffering right now.
welcome to the thread buzzy !
the thread for people that want to talk about their childhood and raising children etc
gillyloves69: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WERE SHY AS A KID THEN ?
i was shy and had a stutter and inferioty complex asa kid going into my twenty's
i blame my father because he was a huge man that i felt intimidated by , and was also the last and most sensitive child in a line of seven children coming from him....so who was i to argue about
" the way people do things around here and relate to me " as a young child ????
Both of my parents are a bit on the reserved side...and we were immigrants in a foriegn country... we had a tendency to socialize more with family members more so then with Americans. There was only one American family that we used to socialize with, other then that it was all aunts, uncles and a cousins.
We were also raised with some pretty old fashioned standards of speak when you´re spoken to... if you don´t have something nice to say, don´t say anything. I also wore glasses and my parents made me wear dresses to school when all the other kids were wearing jeans... so it made it a bit difficult to fit in with other kids that were being raised in a much different manner.
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
jbibiza: Both of my parents are a bit on the reserved side...and we were immigrants in a foriegn country... we had a tendency to socialize more with family members more so then with Americans. There was only one American family that we used to socialize with, other then that it was all aunts, uncles and a cousins.
We were also raised with some pretty old fashioned standards of speak when you´re spoken to... if you don´t have something nice to say, don´t say anything. I also wore glasses and my parents made me wear dresses to school when all the other kids were wearing jeans... so it made it a bit difficult to fit in with other kids that were being raised in a much different manner.
oh my god that must have been terrible girl !
my father's past way now ..but i argued with him all the way for the first 2 out of the last five years of his life because he was'nt a bad person but had this old fashion victorian attitude as well !! he always wanted to see what he called " you're doing well " thats whilst you're working for a big corporation with a fancy job that he could see
but when it came to what you had to say for yourself as a person , and what you stood for or wanted from life as an individual he just was'nt interested in
like i said there's lots to talk about there jbibiza !
it all came to a head about 6 years ago when they buried my favourite aunty that was a dress maker and street trader that taught me how to speak up for and have confidence for myself with no headstone !
and thats when we really fell out and i left the family for 3 years !
because they made a deal with her children that she left in jamaica when she died by saying to them
" WE PAY FOR THE FUNERAL AND YOU PAY FOR THE HEADSTONE " well you see the children made that deal and then afterwards refuse to put the headstone because she lefted them back in jamaica to try and find a better life in england ...so for years my parents kept arguing with her to send for her 3 children in jamaica which she never did !
and everything always went wrong for her in her life !
broken romances bussiness failure ..got burgled 7 times !!!
but was the nearest family member is distanced to us for about 10 years , and was the life and soul of the family ! all the children in the big outer family loved her because
SHE WAS ENTERTAINING AND CLICKED WITH ALL THE SONS DAUGHTERS NEPHEWS AND NIECES
ALWAYS HELD GREAT REGGAE PARTIES AND COACH OUTING TRIPS THAT EVERYBODY LOVED TALKING TO BECAUSE OF HER EXTROVERT OUTGOING PERSONALITY AND THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT WAS ALWAYS HAPPENING TO HER ( that she would always openly talk everybody about )!
so she was everybody's favourite personality apart from the very reserved ' OLD SCHOOL VICTORIAN TYPES ' who never really related to younger people on the same level and made them feel ' grown up in the same way !
see my parents were ordinary A B C people with ordinary ways that you could'nt talk to in the same way ! but i had no argument with my mother until about six years ago when i said that i'm going to put that headstone myself ! she then said
" OH NO YOU YOU DON'T BECAUSE I OWN THE GRAVE "
SHE WAS WILLING TO PAY MY FARE FOR ME TO GO TO JAMAICA TO FIND OUT WHY HER CHILDREN WOULD NEVER PUT THEHEADSTONE FOR THEIR MOTHER ,,,BUT REFUSE TO LET ANYBODY ELSE PUT THE HEADSTONE !
THATS WHERE THE BIG BUST UP CAME BECAUSE I ENJOYED TALKING TO HER MORE THAN MY OWN PARENTS
Hi Gilly... There always seems to be a "cool" auntie or uncle in every family, but those cool aunts or uncles never seem to have that same relationship with their own children...I´m not sure why that is?
I love and have the deepest respect for my parents...they gave me a good grounding in life and instilled some very good morals. We all have to realize that parents are human and prone to mistakes just like the rest of us. It took me until I was 40 years old to realize that because I didn´t agree with something my parents said or felt, it didn´t make me wrong!
I was lucky that when I turned 14 we moved to a different community and I was able to start over being who I chose to be and fighting against my natural shyness. I still have that shy girl inside of me, and most people who meet me would not believe that I still struggle sometimes in social situations and really have to push myself.
As we become adults, regardless of our upbringing, we have a choice as to how we chose to behave and what type of life we chose to live.
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
gillyloves69: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WERE SHY AS A KID THEN ?
i was shy and had a stutter and inferioty complex asa kid going into my twenty's
i blame my father because he was a huge man that i felt intimidated by , and was also the last and most sensitive child in a line of seven children coming from him....so who was i to argue about
" the way people do things around here and relate to me " as a young child ????
PART 2
you see in reality i was her spiritual child ..she was the one i clicked with the most in the family !
and a few years ago when i had big plans for a joint screenply writing/ film production venture that went wrong and i went running to my familuy to copyright everything and for spiritual support they all thought that i was crazy and refuse to listen to me because they did'nt know that i was capable of even thinking that way much less wanted to presnt myself to them in that way so made made me feel like a a complete idiot whilst my co -writer partner's parents listened to what he had to say and was proud him
BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSSINESS PEOPLE AND A UNIVERSITY LECTURER
crying:
IF MY AUNTY WAS STILL ALIVE SHE WOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED AND SPIRITUALLY SUPPORTED ME
AND THATS WHEN I STARTED ARGUING WITH MY FAMILY FOR THE FIRST TIME !!!!
AND PREFERED TALKING TO PEOPLE THATS DIFFERENT TO EVERYBODY ELSE !
anyway thats end of part 2 to do with that story !
YOUR STORY SOUNDS VERY INTERESTING ..SO LETS CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT YOUR STUFF !
you know years ago i met an alcoholic musican woman that became an alcolohlic after being rejected by her parents because all she wanted to do was play the piano !
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
gillyloves69: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WERE SHY AS A KID THEN ?
i was shy and had a stutter and inferioty complex asa kid going into my twenty's
i blame my father because he was a huge man that i felt intimidated by , and was also the last and most sensitive child in a line of seven children coming from him....so who was i to argue about
" the way people do things around here and relate to me " as a young child ????
PART 2
you see in reality i was her spiritual child ..she was the one i clicked with the most in the family !
and a few years ago when i had big plans for a joint screenply writing/ film production venture that went wrong and i went running to my familuy to copyright everything and for spiritual support they all thought that i was crazy and refuse to listen to me because they did'nt know that i was capable of even thinking that way much less wanted to presnt myself to them in that way so made made me feel like a a complete idiot whilst my co -writer partner's parents listened to what he had to say and was proud him
BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSSINESS PEOPLE AND A UNIVERSITY LECTURER
crying:
IF MY AUNTY WAS STILL ALIVE SHE WOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED AND SPIRITUALLY SUPPORTED ME
AND THATS WHEN I STARTED ARGUING WITH MY FAMILY FOR THE FIRST TIME !!!!
AND PREFERED TALKING TO PEOPLE THATS DIFFERENT TO EVERYBODY ELSE !
anyway thats end of part 2 to do with that story !
YOUR STORY SOUNDS VERY INTERESTING ..SO LETS CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT YOUR STUFF !
you know years ago i met an alcoholic musican woman that became an alcolohlic after being rejected by her parents because all she wanted to do was play the piano !
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
As we become adults, regardless of our upbringing, we have a choice as to how we chose to behave and what type of life we chose to live.
YES WE DO GIRL BUT SOMETIMES NEED ENCOURAGEMENT AND SUPPORT FROM OUR FAMILY ! OR ELSE WHATS THE POINT OF BEING A PART OF A FAMILY LISTENING TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND YOU HAVE GOT TO SAY BUT WHEN ITS YOUR TURN TO EXPRESS YOURSELF AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS HAVE THEM TURN THEY'RE BACK ON YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE MINDS DON'T WORK THE SAME WAY ?
WHAT WERE THEY GROOMING YOU TO BECOME ?
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOUR CHILDREN ARE MORE INTELLIGENT SENSITIVE OUTLANDISH BROADMINDED OR CREATIVE IN WHAT EVER SENSE THAN YOU ?
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Those Dublin meets are something else arent they - I had a great time at the one last Jan, met some lovely people and I love Dublin too