WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY? (191)

Jan 28, 2009 3:49 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
Me4u2: ma man dont be hatin on da pretty lady cuz you dont agree



Dude...she is the one that is doing the name calling, not me! Read the posts
Jan 28, 2009 3:51 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
Don216: There would have been no bailout if the Dems in Congress had not passed the bill authorizing it. Most of the country was/is against it.




Wrong....it was Democrats AND republicansthumbs up
Jan 28, 2009 3:53 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
pretzelman: At which point did I call you anything???


At which point did I even mention Obama's name or criticize him??? I simply made one post referring to the current economic stimulus package and you popped in with all your nasty snippets.

F**ck off, Pretzelman. I'm sick and tired of whatever problem you've got with me, and I WILL NOT drag this forum down by wasting it in a pissing match with you.
Jan 28, 2009 3:54 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
pretzelman: Dude...she is the one that is doing the name calling, not me! Read the posts
I did an' it looks like ya started da name calling Ya' know what I'm sayin'? thumbs down
Jan 28, 2009 3:55 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
Me4u2: I did an' it looks like ya started da name calling Ya' know what I'm sayin'?



Please...tell me what name I called anyone!! Please point that out.

If you can find it...I will apologize for it
Jan 28, 2009 3:56 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
WhatUwish4: At which point did I even mention Obama's name or criticize him??? I simply made one post referring to the current economic stimulus package and you popped in with all your nasty snippets.

F**ck off, Pretzelman. I'm sick and tired of whatever problem you've got with me, and I WILL NOT drag this forum down by wasting it in a pissing match with you.



Then you should have called me "narrow-minded" just because I disagreed with youprofessor
Jan 28, 2009 3:57 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
Conrad73: What's with that phoney Hood-Speak in a maybe 48 year old?
hey man dont be hatin on me fo been me. mumbling
Jan 28, 2009 3:57 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
My comments were to "conservatives" not to you directly
Jan 28, 2009 4:03 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
WhatUwish4: Geeze Pretzelman, you could at least TRY to be objective here. They are all guilty in some form or fashion, but taking sides just perpetuates the ignorance as we'll never fix a damn thing.


And of that statement you have said a mouthful pointing to exactly what we need to do. The only people going to fix our economy is the people who rule our form of democracy, and its economics. Unless we take that responsibility back into our hands, and out of the hands of lobbiest, activist, advocacy groups, our congressional representation, executive office, will continue to do what secures their positions in Washington. Fill up your representatives mail bag, keep their phones ringing off the hook, jam their computers with emails, and demand a response. They are our representatives, and it is up to us. Send them something everyday, everytime something pisses you off. Do not get run over by those getting paid with your money to lobby, and advocate, for their own needs. We are a Republic, of the peoples rule.
Jan 28, 2009 4:07 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
Conrad73: What's with that phoney Hood-Speak in a maybe 48 year old?
you been drinkin mad dog? I be 29 man. laugh
Jan 28, 2009 4:12 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
WhatUwish4: Isn't it funny how liberals created the mortgage crisis by enacting legislation strong-arming the banks to make loans to people who could not afford them? Carter started it and Clinton strengthened the legislation...even though they were repeatedly told by EVERY banker but one that it was madness, and they ignorned warning legislation proposed by Republicans on at least three occasions. Isn't it funny how GWB got blamed for all of it???



This is being objective????
Jan 28, 2009 4:14 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2: you been drinkin mad dog? I be 29 man.

Sunshine,check your Profile,you made a Slip there somewhere,unless you've rectified it by now.
I think you had the Mad Dog 20-20.laugh rolling on the floor laughing wine
Jan 28, 2009 4:15 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2: you been drinkin mad dog? I be 29 man.
That age definitely suit your Pic better!rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 28, 2009 4:16 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
"I be" amazed at what happened to the English languagedoh
Jan 28, 2009 5:04 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
sambhava
sambhavasambhavaVasteras, Vastmanland Sweden3 Threads 1 Polls 584 Posts
Of course O-Bloody-Bama won't fix the economy! He can't do anymore than what those who put him there tell him to do! (And I'm NOT referring to those who voted for him!)
Jan 28, 2009 5:06 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
sambhava: Of course O-Bloody-Bama won't fix the economy! He can't do anymore than what those who put him there tell him to do! (And I'm NOT referring to those who voted for him!)



I believe he will give it the old college try!thumbs up
Jan 28, 2009 5:06 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I would have to say that is if money solves a economic problem then yes, it can be solved.

But.....the economy is more than money. It is jobs, it s production, it is technologies, it is capitol markets, it is small and big business, it is the stock market, it is consumer confidence and confidence in general.

Money is not the end all solution. But that is the approach the DEMs are taking. Pore money on it. When the value of the money declines, you print more money and pore it on again. And again. And again.

Till the US Dollar has a par value with the Mexican peso.

Every major currency and economy that has taken this approach of poring money on the economic problems of their country. Has seen this effect. When it takes a $100 dollars to buy a loaf of bread, like it took a 100 rubles to buy a loaf of bread in the last day of
Russia....people will know if this economic recovery strategy of the DEMs worked.

What is sad, is that the economist around President Obama.
They know this. They have seen it time and time again, in other countries that tried this kind of money bailout.
Jan 28, 2009 5:27 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
ttom500: I would have to say that is if money solves a economic problem then yes, it can be solved.

But.....the economy is more than money. It is jobs, it s production, it is technologies, it is capitol markets, it is small and big business, it is the stock market, it is consumer confidence and confidence in general.

Money is not the end all solution. But that is the approach the DEMs are taking. Pore money on it. When the value of the money declines, you print more money and pore it on again. And again. And again.

Till the US Dollar has a par value with the Mexican peso.

Every major currency and economy that has taken this approach of poring money on the economic problems of their country. Has seen this effect. When it takes a $100 dollars to buy a loaf of bread, like it took a 100 rubles to buy a loaf of bread in the last day of
Russia....people will know if this economic recovery strategy of the DEMs worked.

What is sad, is that the economist around President Obama.
They know this. They have seen it time and time again, in other countries that tried this kind of money bailout.



But again I say...it is not just a Democratic bail-out! Republicans have had their hand in it as well!
Jan 28, 2009 5:31 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
sambhava
sambhavasambhavaVasteras, Vastmanland Sweden3 Threads 1 Polls 584 Posts
Never mind OBAMA! Whenever I hear some of the things OSAMA has to say, I'd say that he'd be by far a more appropriate guy to have in the White House! At least he'd be the first to put a stop to what's happening in Palestine instead of just ranting on about so-called "peace plans"! OK, it might look a bit strange seeing the President of the USA riding around on a camel, but at the rate things are going now it won't be long before OBAMA is seen riding around on a bike!
Jan 28, 2009 5:39 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
Conrad73: That age definitely suit your Pic better!
dont be scootin to my side o the yard. Yea be hittin the dog a bit. cheers peace
Jan 28, 2009 5:43 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
pretzelman: "I be" amazed at what happened to the English language
dont be hatin on me. Wat I do to dis you man?confused
Jan 28, 2009 5:46 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
javid1964
javid1964javid1964rasht, Iran20 Threads 10 Polls 242 Posts
wow ..what a heated room this is !! wow...
economy is like a fountain , it goes up and down , take it easy.violin happy place
Jan 28, 2009 5:48 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
javid1964
javid1964javid1964rasht, Iran20 Threads 10 Polls 242 Posts
cammles are 4WD , good things when the oil runs outviolin
Jan 28, 2009 5:59 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
Me4u2: dont be hatin on me. Wat I do to dis you man?



you sure love the word "hatin" don't you...lolcheers
Jan 28, 2009 6:01 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
WhatUwish4: Oh sure! Giving another $800 Billion in fake money to failing organizations who have not even tried to fix their business formulas so they can piss that away and get back in line for another bail out. Even a trained monkey can see this is going to fix the economy.



laugh thumbs up
Jan 28, 2009 6:05 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
WhatUwish4: Isn't it funny how liberals created the mortgage crisis by enacting legislation strong-arming the banks to make loans to people who could not afford them? Carter started it and Clinton strengthened the legislation...even though they were repeatedly told by EVERY banker but one that it was madness, and they ignorned warning legislation proposed by Republicans on at least three occasions. Isn't it funny how GWB got blamed for all of it???


Once againthumbs up even less typing I have to do...hell maybe by the time I get to the last page, everything I will want to say will already be said for me...laugh cheers
Jan 28, 2009 6:11 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
BarrenPneuma: Obama has a much better chance of being the Antichrist than he does of fixing the economy.
What has been done to the economy has been happening for 40 years and has been supported by all the big movers and shakers in the United States. Check to see where their bank accounts are... almost to the man... off shore and not in US currency.
Obama is not a magician or a miracle worker and contrary to popular opinion he cannot part the sea or walk on water.
He is a man in a position who is in a position of perceived power. A spokesman for lack of a better word. Not of the people as he purports but of the people who hold his leash.
President's who try to change things end up dead.



I definitely agree with this, I don't think he the Anti-Christ just seeting up the stage for him.... The Anti-Christ will receive a wound in the head, that should kill him, but will not. That is one notation to have in our minds...
Jan 28, 2009 6:15 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
pretzelman: But again I say...it is not just a Democratic bail-out! Republicans have had their hand in it as well!


Pretzeleman....check the party in power.....it is the DEMs across the board. When President Obama took the oath....it became their watch. Offically thiers. They promised change and hope to the American people. Promised a accountable gov't to them. They were there when this mess began as well, Ship. These bailouts....now....all fall on their watch.

The last two year in control of congress....the body passing all those budgets that helped to place GWBs administration into the deficit. The GWB budget requests had earmark after earmark on them....had more pork than the biggest sow at the county fair.

I saw the white washed Franks hearings on the bank failures on C-Span. I listened to the questions being asked and looked at the
experts, Franks had in testimony.

Honest, Ship....a white wash....pure and simple. They were no closer to the truth on what happened in the bank failures from when the came in to when they hearing ended and they walked out.
Jan 28, 2009 6:23 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Tater: I definitely agree with this, I don't think he the Anti-Christ just seeting up the stage for him.... The Anti-Christ will receive a wound in the head, that should kill him, but will not. That is one notation to have in our minds...


He's about as emotionless as an automaton. Makes me wonder about science and the possibilities of having a dupe/clone/robot. He sure acts like one. Even speaks in a manner without any inflection, rise or fall to his words. Could probably take a killing blow to the head and walk away from it.
The man scares the hell out of me. Just happy to be Canadian right now... miles of frigid forest between me and that sort of thing.
If he is just a man with the best interests of the people he will end up failing if he pulls to hard at his leash and become a martyr.
Or he will just toe the line and do what he is told.
Personally voting for the last one for him and the world of course. Conspiracy theories make my head sore and i don't like them.
Jan 28, 2009 7:49 PM CST WILL OBAMA FIX THIS ECONOMY?
Me4u2
Me4u2Me4u2here, Georgia USA66 Posts
Y some peeps gettin down on my man Obama? confused
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