Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses? ( Archived) (20)

Feb 17, 2009 4:18 AM CSTShould failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England, UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts

Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?(Vote Below)

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YES
10
14%
YES but not for the management staff
6
8%
Not at all
57
78%
Total Votes
73
Reward should be given only for success not for bringing the country to disaster like this one.
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Feb 17, 2009 4:43 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
MrRespect
MrRespectMrRespectNewcastle, Tyne and Wear, England UK72 Posts
those ******** at Nat West want to put a charge on my account, after my taxes helped bail the gits out and they are also giving out a billion in bonuses to their staff, I HATE BANKS.
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Feb 17, 2009 9:32 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
MrRespect: those ******** at Nat West want to put a charge on my account, after my taxes helped bail the gits out and they are also giving out a billion in bonuses to their staff, I HATE BANKS.


You see, they punish you for your mistake (if it was yours) and they reward them self for failure. What kind of world we live in!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 17, 2009 11:46 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
ocean_1: You see, they punish you for your mistake (if it was yours) and they reward them self for failure. What kind of world we live in!!!!!!!!!!!


Exactly doh they should be hung drawn and quartered imo very mad
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Feb 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
The banks dont give bonuses because they're feeling generous.

Its the way their system works, they should really be renamed
incentive based pay.
Its a tricky one, most of these 'bonuses' are calculated
for individual performances for the previous year and are
always part of a written contract.
Difficult to see therefore how the employer can renage on these
contracts.
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Feb 17, 2009 12:39 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
lint874
lint874lint874Leeds, West Yorkshire, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 414 Posts
Good reply Bodleing.

I agree. Of course the banks should honour their employment contracts wherever possible.

But remember, we as consumers have the right to bank with whomever we want.

Now which bank treats its' customers the best, whilst dishing out the least unfair rewards to its' staff?
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Feb 18, 2009 7:58 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
"After I was dismissed and to prove just how seriously HBOS took risk management, I was replaced by a new group risk director who had never carried out a role as a risk manager of any type before."

He concluded: "Sadly, no one wanted or felt able to speak up for fear of stepping out of line with the rest of the lemmings who were busy organising themselves to run over the edge of the cliff behind the pied piper CEOs and executive teams that were being paid so much to play the tune and take them in that direction."

Two former HBOS executives were quizzed by the Treasury select committee over Mr Moore's dismissal. George Mudie, a Labour committee member, said: "At the end of the day you sacked your group risk fellow. Now, four years later it turns out he was right and you were wrong."

Lord Stevenson, the former chairman of HBOS, replied: "I remember the incident very well. It was taken very seriously by the board."

Last night George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, said: "Paul Moore has made very serious allegations about how his warnings about the risks being run at HBOS were dismissed by the then chief executive, James Crosby.

"Given that as Chancellor, Gordon Brown appointed Sir James as Deputy Chairman of the FSA and that as Prime Minister he relies upon him as a key economic adviser, the Government need urgently to investigate the allegations and discover the truth.

"What is at issue here is Gordon Brown's judgement and the people he takes advice from."

HBOS collapsed because of the failure of the very business model that allowed it to expand rapidly.

The bank operated with a huge £198bn so-called "funding gap" – the difference between customer deposits and customer loans. The gap was filled by borrowing on wholesale international money markets. But from 2007, those markets effectively froze as investors took fright, leaving HBOS unable to raise money and teetering on the brink.

Sir James was unavailable for comment.

But Mr Moore said: "One final observation I would make about the HBOS disaster is this: wasn't it actually Sir James Crosby rather than Andy Hornby (HBOS chief executive) who was the original architect of the HBOS retail strategy?

"Sir James is still deputy chairman of the FSA and advises the Government on how to solve the mortgage crisis. Some might now question what his 'contribution to financial services' has been when this will have led to millions of people in excessive debt, 10,000s who will lose their jobs and many more who balance sheets have been impacted by precipitous fall of the HBOS share price."

Mr Moore has previously accused Halifax bosses, including ex-Asda executive Mr Hornby, of abandoning the bank's conservative roots in a reckless rush for market share.
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Feb 20, 2009 4:14 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
mutley123
mutley123mutley123oxford, Oxfordshire, England UK10 Threads 1 Polls 58 Posts
if i get 5% its ok with medancing
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Feb 22, 2009 4:40 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
NO

head banger head banger head banger
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Feb 23, 2009 4:22 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
mutley123: if i get 5% its ok with me


Are you a banker? Help to get a morgage!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 26, 2009 4:25 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
It make me feel sad that people losing their jobs and homes while this greedy big fat chef executive get bonuses on the top of their huge salariesfrustrated frustrated
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Mar 2, 2009 4:34 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
camog
camogcamogBelfast, Donegal Ireland3 Threads 31 Posts
I think it is obscene that these guys have gambled with our livelyhoods brought to the brink and possibly beyond and then get a big fat pension / reward

Meanwhile it is us the ordinary punter who must bear the brunt of their mis management MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL GRRR
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Mar 10, 2009 4:48 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
It seem the government (which own 77% of Lloyds TSB) agreed to pay 40000 of the bank's low wage staff (under £20000.00 year) £1000.00 each. Which make 40 million of our money been given a way.
I am glad the big fat banker didn’t get any bonuses
banana
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Mar 10, 2009 4:49 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
I want to become a banker. It is a win win situation
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Mar 10, 2009 4:59 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
When it all calms down again, what then? Will there be public accountability or will there business prectices be publically accountable? Im thinking they will invent a few scapegoats to appease the public then as soon as possible, normal service will be resumed - unless we shout loud enough of course..........
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Mar 10, 2009 5:00 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
trish123: When it all calms down again, what then? Will there be public accountability or will there their business prectices be publically accountable? Im thinking they will invent a few scapegoats to appease the public then as soon as possible, normal service will be resumed - unless we shout loud enough of course..........
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Mar 10, 2009 9:20 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
trish123: When it all calms down again, what then? Will there be public accountability or will there business prectices be publically accountable? Im thinking they will invent a few scapegoats to appease the public then as soon as possible, normal service will be resumed - unless we shout loud enough of course..........


cor trish on what planet do you live on, public accountability noway the public might find out just how much dosh really is missing out of the kitty.

head banger
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Mar 11, 2009 5:02 AM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
gussi: cor trish on what planet do you live on, public accountability noway the public might find out just how much dosh really is missing out of the kitty.


Exactly Gussi, thats why they are raising a stink about one or two people, the media will hang em out to dry till public vengence is sated, then they will focus everybodies attentions on some other invented scandal, then itll all just carry on like before - they (gvmt and the media) treat people like fools, lead them like sheep and people fall for it every time........ frustrated
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Mar 14, 2009 12:16 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
Jane25
Jane25Jane25Crawley, West Sussex, England UK1 Posts
DEFINITELY NOT!
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Mar 14, 2009 1:11 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ragskuttle
ragskuttleragskuttleLondon, Greater London, England UK8 Threads 1 Polls 91 Posts
I fail to see why any reward should be offered - even if the job has been done well. It's called a wage. Each and everyone of us are paid a wage and we are expected to do our jobs well. Why, then, reward someone for doing their job???? Pay them and be done with it.
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Mar 16, 2009 12:08 PM CST Should failed bank reward their staff with bonuses?
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
ragskuttle: I fail to see why any reward should be offered - even if the job has been done well. It's called a wage. Each and everyone of us are paid a wage and we are expected to do our jobs well. Why, then, reward someone for doing their job???? Pay them and be done with it.


Let say for them to do more than the expected target.
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