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How tedious it must be to go tit for tat in arguing about ridicoulicies.
The only problem i have is when the representatives hold the bible in one hand, a bomb in the other, and spout profusely that god spoke to them to pull the pin and throw that bomb
The only problem i have is when the representatives hold the bible in one hand, a bomb in the other, and spout profusely that god spoke to them to pull the pin and throw that bomb
Da10th: Thankyou, although I don't always entirly agree with a certain perspective, I think it is important for all to see the many different ideals out there and to be at least open to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, someone else's idea may be correct.
Although, on the idea of nationalized healthcare, I am very much pro. There are however many things about the Obama administration that I disagree with, there are just as many that I do agree with.
I think sometimes people, amidst the carnage of defending their idea, forget to keep an open mind, so I just like to offer another way of looking at things.
I have no intention of changing what someone believes or forcing what I believe onto them, but again, to simply offer them another perspective
Although, on the idea of nationalized healthcare, I am very much pro. There are however many things about the Obama administration that I disagree with, there are just as many that I do agree with.
I think sometimes people, amidst the carnage of defending their idea, forget to keep an open mind, so I just like to offer another way of looking at things.
I have no intention of changing what someone believes or forcing what I believe onto them, but again, to simply offer them another perspective
ttom500: Well if that boogie man kick your grannie out a elderly care facility....you would not be happy with him.
Come on TT! Are you really serious? Who made this BS please tell
Kicked out grannie for what? Helaht care reforms are actually most usable for elderies because not all elderies in America are rich you see?
It is really interesting you guys are actually able to get many old americans like being on your side and beleiving all this... Fear is such a Bit**!
Hot_Single_Dude: Come on TT! Are you really serious? Who made this BS please tell
Kicked out grannie for what? Helaht care reforms are actually most usable for elderies because not all elderies in America are rich you see?
It is really interesting you guys are actually able to get many old americans like being on your side and beleiving all this... Fear is such a Bit**!
Kicked out grannie for what? Helaht care reforms are actually most usable for elderies because not all elderies in America are rich you see?
It is really interesting you guys are actually able to get many old americans like being on your side and beleiving all this... Fear is such a Bit**!
Fear is what makes the world turn.
Really, would you go to work if you didn't fear being homeless?
ttom500:
As for greed in the American Health System.....check out non profit hospitals....Arnold Palmer is one. They operate not on a profit basis, but on community service basis.
As for greed in the American Health System.....check out non profit hospitals....Arnold Palmer is one. They operate not on a profit basis, but on community service basis.
I'd like to see them give you a kidney transplant when you'll need one and see if you're in their "community network".
ttom500: With his poll number sinking....the President that once said...'people should not cling to their religion'.....runs to the clergy and the Bible for support. I agree when times are tough and hard....seeking faith is a wise thing. Actually even when things are good and easy, it is a wise thing.
But when the country was struggling with two wars in 2002-2007,
the DEMs were hardly the ones saying be calm and seek faith.
Rather then the DEMs did a back flip from the country and stood divisive against the wars.
So today....with the DEM ship being battered in the health care debate....it is time to seek faith. Reach out to your fellow man and be kind....give him some DEM legislated health care. Be kind to him, cover him with the DEM health care blanket.
Where was that charitable attitude to the little old white ladies appeared in the REV Wright debate of the election? "Every one of them does it.....has the bias opinion of blacks."
But then when a REP talks of his/her Christian in a tough time.
He skewred in liberal media and by liberals. For GWB to mention his faith while in two wars, would have been a insult to Islam.
Look how Sarah Palin was treated in her faith based positions.
But it is surely OK for a liberal President that is in two wars to hold hands with faith clergy!
There is some real duplicity (a kind word to use here) of liberals and DEMs when it comes to faith. It is OK for liberal faith to be espoused, but when those REP Conservatives....they certainly could not have any faith in God...they are all war mongers and haters.
But when the country was struggling with two wars in 2002-2007,
the DEMs were hardly the ones saying be calm and seek faith.
Rather then the DEMs did a back flip from the country and stood divisive against the wars.
So today....with the DEM ship being battered in the health care debate....it is time to seek faith. Reach out to your fellow man and be kind....give him some DEM legislated health care. Be kind to him, cover him with the DEM health care blanket.
Where was that charitable attitude to the little old white ladies appeared in the REV Wright debate of the election? "Every one of them does it.....has the bias opinion of blacks."
But then when a REP talks of his/her Christian in a tough time.
He skewred in liberal media and by liberals. For GWB to mention his faith while in two wars, would have been a insult to Islam.
Look how Sarah Palin was treated in her faith based positions.
But it is surely OK for a liberal President that is in two wars to hold hands with faith clergy!
There is some real duplicity (a kind word to use here) of liberals and DEMs when it comes to faith. It is OK for liberal faith to be espoused, but when those REP Conservatives....they certainly could not have any faith in God...they are all war mongers and haters.
Of course almost all Bushney,s are Haters and War mongers TT! Thanks god we finally agree on some thing
By the way... not all of them are that way and if they have been some of them have acuually began realise what SH** they supported and how terribly they have dammaged their country as Tom Ridge have done recently....
Read and Enjoy TT:
I love it when some members of the forces of darkness begining to see the light !
Grandepensees: Fear is what makes the world turn.
Really, would you go to work if you didn't fear being homeless?
Really, would you go to work if you didn't fear being homeless?
I would go to work any way unless I won the lottery then I would not give a damn a bout working
Fear makes the world turn... well you are some how right and it has been this way several times during human history and in differnet countries and it is still this way in many places unfortunatily but still... I beleive human beings generally do not accept this for too long and mkaing them selves free of fear some day.
Grandepensees: I'd like to see them give you a kidney transplant when you'll need one and see if you're in their "community network".
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course almost all Bushney,s are Haters and War mongers TT! Thanks god we finally agree on some thing
By the way... not all of them are that way and if they have been some of them have acuually began realise what SH** they supported and how terribly they have dammaged their country as Tom Ridge have done recently....
Read and Enjoy TT:
I love it when some members of the forces of darkness begining to see the light !
By the way... not all of them are that way and if they have been some of them have acuually began realise what SH** they supported and how terribly they have dammaged their country as Tom Ridge have done recently....
Read and Enjoy TT:
I love it when some members of the forces of darkness begining to see the light !
Dud,
Your are so foolish, blind, and ignorant, you are scary.
And I apologize for the harshness of my words. I am sorry to have to say it, and wish I did not believe that you are so lost.
But you really are lost.
Hot_Single_Dude: I would go to work any way unless I won the lottery then I would not give a damn a bout working
Fear makes the world turn... well you are some how right and it has been this way several times during human history and in differnet countries and it is still this way in many places unfortunatily but still... I beleive human beings generally do not accept this for too long and mkaing them selves free of fear some day.
Fear makes the world turn... well you are some how right and it has been this way several times during human history and in differnet countries and it is still this way in many places unfortunatily but still... I beleive human beings generally do not accept this for too long and mkaing them selves free of fear some day.
Humans may get free from oppression and tyranny but never from fear. We fear anything our thoughts set themselves upon, that's why we act when something happens, or we react.
So many ills are related to fear, it's staggering!
lights: Dud,
Your are so foolish, blind, and ignorant, you are scary.
And I apologize for the harshness of my words. I am sorry to have to say it, and wish I did not believe that you are so lost.
But you really are lost.
Your are so foolish, blind, and ignorant, you are scary.
And I apologize for the harshness of my words. I am sorry to have to say it, and wish I did not believe that you are so lost.
But you really are lost.
Then let's not have a case of the blind leading the blind, shall we?
lights: Dud,
Your are so foolish, blind, and ignorant, you are scary.
And I apologize for the harshness of my words. I am sorry to have to say it, and wish I did not believe that you are so lost.
But you really are lost.
Your are so foolish, blind, and ignorant, you are scary.
And I apologize for the harshness of my words. I am sorry to have to say it, and wish I did not believe that you are so lost.
But you really are lost.
The same to you "Dud"
Grandepensees: Humans may get free from oppression and tyranny but never from fear. We fear anything our thoughts set themselves upon, that's why we act when something happens, or we react.
So many ills are related to fear, it's staggering!
Absoloutely agree So many ills are related to fear, it's staggering!
Hot_Single_Dude: Absoloutely agree
If you looked at the last US presidential elections ( and who didn't) McCain ran on fear and Obama ran on hope, that's why he won, because Americans are tired of being afraid.
MY GOD! Americans used to be fearless! They're the guys who conquered this vast continent with nothing but dangers and hardships! And look at them now, afraid of a boogy-man who may already be dead and who might not even have caused the 9/11 attacks!
They fear Iran??? The guy just spat out a bunch a rhetoric meant to scare some old women in Israel and they tremble in fear?!
America, home of the brave?!
SHOW IT!
Don't jump at shadows, people!!
littlewolf: This is how grand Obama is,I have a rare form of anemia.The shots to keep me alive cost $2600 each,I need two a month.I cant afford the 20%, $520.00 a month.So I die.And for the first time since the program started in the 70s,we wont get a cost of living raise this year on our ss.While he takes his family all over the world,and this weekend its Marthas vineyard,where they have his favorite booze on tap at the local bar.Hes bankrupting American,so we can buy new cars,if u can live long enough to drive one.I sent him an email to ,Keep hunting u will find a place that the email goes to him.Hes a star statis seeker,who cares nothing about America or her people.
I am sure the problem you are battling against regarding your health is not some thing which absoloutely began because Obama took over and you have had the exact problem before during the years of Bushney,s as well.
The president of your country travels around as all other heads of states any where so if you want try to run for presidnecy next time and if you win you will travel as well littlewolf... it is a free country you see?
I certainly hope not you get more hurt because of the health condition you are suffering from and I hope there will be a way out of this situation and actually if you blame any thing on Obama then go to republicans and ask them to help you because they made a Hell of job for solving the kind of problems you are experiencing... right????
If the health care system in America Sucks then support the new adminitration trying to make it better rather than blaming what ever trouble on the shoulders of the new administration, which took over a country with a terribly dammaged economy because the damn Bushney,s used a lot of your money on Stupied wars and torturing tousands and supporting stupied governments who supported the torturers amoung Bushnye,s and mass surviolence of your countrymen and made americans fearing each other and a lot more you have probabely heard amillion times before!
Time have changed and if you claim what you have right now regarding heatlh care in America is great and one of kind and so on then try your best to keep it but be sure millions of your countrymen are deeply unsatisfied with the same and want it to change to better and to a more just system.
This attempt regarding reformong the system have been tried many times before and no body have been able to win over big capital health companies who milk your country and making a fool out of many of you guys by charging you much more than they should and caliming all others in other countries with free ehalth care are suffering and blah blah blah like that!
I certainly hope you will get help littlewolf and beign able to cover the cost. You have a right as a human being to get medical help and u better fight for your rights and not beleiving republicans for example are the true saviors! What did they do for you or others like you? Not a damn thing!
littlewolf: This is how grand Obama is,I have a rare form of anemia.The shots to keep me alive cost $2600 each,I need two a month.I cant afford the 20%, $520.00 a month.So I die.And for the first time since the program started in the 70s,we wont get a cost of living raise this year on our ss.While he takes his family all over the world,and this weekend its Marthas vineyard,where they have his favorite booze on tap at the local bar.Hes bankrupting American,so we can buy new cars,if u can live long enough to drive one.I sent him an email to ,Keep hunting u will find a place that the email goes to him.Hes a star statis seeker,who cares nothing about America or her people.
Interesting that the Dud and the reast of the cheering section do not respond to your first hand account of what IS happening and WILL happen.
I guess compassion is being rationed out too.
BrunoMcMahon: Interesting that the Dud and the reast of the cheering section do not respond to your first hand account of what IS happening and WILL happen.
I guess compassion is being rationed out too.
I guess compassion is being rationed out too.
I don't see any bleeding-heart Republicans doing a thing about it either.
And they had EIGHT years to do something to help HER WHat did they do to help her???
What did they do to help any of us??
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course almost all Bushney,s are Haters and War mongers TT! Thanks god we finally agree on some thing
By the way... not all of them are that way and if they have been some of them have acuually began realise what SH** they supported and how terribly they have dammaged their country as Tom Ridge have done recently....
Read and Enjoy TT:
I love it when some members of the forces of darkness begining to see the light !
By the way... not all of them are that way and if they have been some of them have acuually began realise what SH** they supported and how terribly they have dammaged their country as Tom Ridge have done recently....
Read and Enjoy TT:
I love it when some members of the forces of darkness begining to see the light !
Not one word on the Christian issues raised, Dude.
Interesting. Guess that is not significant part of the liberal position anymore.
Grandepensees: I don't see any bleeding-heart Republicans doing a thing about it either.
And they had EIGHT years to do something to help HER WHat did they do to help her???
What did they do to help any of us??
And they had EIGHT years to do something to help HER WHat did they do to help her???
What did they do to help any of us??
hold on..let me see what they did to help her.
do you see anything up there?
mnowsa: hold on..let me see what they did to help her.
do you see anything up there?
do you see anything up there?
Grandepensees: If you looked at the last US presidential elections ( and who didn't) McCain ran on fear and Obama ran on hope, that's why he won, because Americans are tired of being afraid.
MY GOD! Americans used to be fearless! They're the guys who conquered this vast continent with nothing but dangers and hardships! And look at them now, afraid of a boogy-man who may already be dead and who might not even have caused the 9/11 attacks!
They fear Iran??? The guy just spat out a bunch a rhetoric meant to scare some old women in Israel and they tremble in fear?!
America, home of the brave?!
SHOW IT!
Don't jump at shadows, people!!
MY GOD! Americans used to be fearless! They're the guys who conquered this vast continent with nothing but dangers and hardships! And look at them now, afraid of a boogy-man who may already be dead and who might not even have caused the 9/11 attacks!
They fear Iran??? The guy just spat out a bunch a rhetoric meant to scare some old women in Israel and they tremble in fear?!
America, home of the brave?!
SHOW IT!
Don't jump at shadows, people!!
Exactly !
Fear have been used to make ameircans voting Republican several times and if not fear I am certian they almost never could win any way. Just listenign to their speaches, reading their thoughts, sensing their under cover activities, reading their personalities life history and so on makes me wonder how come they Ever could win any ellections in america but they did and fear have bene used as the one and only tool to win for those...
When abusing the name of gud and relegion as well for making people feared and like telling them that if the are real christians then they should vote republican then one knows what deep stincky SH** is going on
This time americans really got tired of that BS and chosed Hope instead of fear and it has surely been a true fresh begining for America and in benefit for America and for the rest of us as well.
I am sure Alqueda and Iran and all those are not much worht being scared of any way and the kind of BS they make is possible to defeat if people stop fearing them and begining to see why movements as those are there in the first place and why there is support for those... fear makes one stop thinking and when you stop thinking then the enemy will win over you !
America is Back for sure and even the same fear still runs the show some how, I am certain more and more americans are thinking a bout "why" and asking this simple question will make true changes possible in America.
BrunoMcMahon: Interesting that the Dud and the reast of the cheering section do not respond to your first hand account of what IS happening and WILL happen.
I guess compassion is being rationed out too.
I made a post responding to littewolf Bruno! I guess compassion is being rationed out too.
mnowsa: hold on..let me see what they did to help her.
do you see anything up there?
Republicans did not a damn thing other than trying their best to stop americans who are in deep trouble... republicans or democrats or independents or any body else getting help form the government regarding the issue and even caleld that the will of god!do you see anything up there?
Actually any where no matter where in world we are talking about... those who claim being so near to "gud" as no body else... beelvie it is the will of "gud" if you die because of illness so they do not give a damn a bout it when all counts any way! No sir... it is not the will of Gud and human beings are able to help the ill because of the technology but this technology costs and thats why members of any modern society must have the right to get medical help even if they cant afford the costs! Americans must not DIE becasue they cant affrod the hospital bills in the number one super power with so much money and influence and scientists as no where else!
Hot_Single_Dude: Come on TT! Are you really serious? Who made this BS please tell
Kicked out grannie for what? Helaht care reforms are actually most usable for elderies because not all elderies in America are rich you see?
It is really interesting you guys are actually able to get many old americans like being on your side and beleiving all this... Fear is such a Bit**!
Kicked out grannie for what? Helaht care reforms are actually most usable for elderies because not all elderies in America are rich you see?
It is really interesting you guys are actually able to get many old americans like being on your side and beleiving all this... Fear is such a Bit**!
Listened to a conservative TV talker (expert) say the basic things that I did.That Obama had left his half brother in a Kenya slum. That did not disapprove the end of life conselling in the bills. Sitting beside her was liberal TV talker (expert).....no defense from them either.
To DEMs and Liberals that like and support Obama, he has this magical cape. You can can make legitimate points and they don't need to response or enter a discourse.
You voice valid a concern....and they give you the 5th degree about 'who and why'....instead of just answering the question and being part of a honest debate. That is being evasive. Which is a form of lieing. It is always your lacking or your failure for asking the question, not Obama's or DEMs. That is elitest and arrogant.
Well consider this. Our hospice (that cover the entire country) have had end of life conseling for a very long time (20 years+). In which they have all the major points of wills, burial, family conseling in their programd.
So why does the Obama administration want to duplicate hospice programs that have had success for many years? They work from gifts and grants....are cost effective.....and have a local touch that surely the FED government cannot have.
Only reason, I come up with. These hospices by law don't much file much paper work to any government agency on the end of life decisions. They stay within the laws on the patient privacy.
In other words this end of life conselling is already covered in the country. Just not 'to how' the DEMs want the information of the conseling session to be handled. So now we can all speculate on the 'why' because surely the answers to such a simple question will not be forth coming in this thread.
ttom500: Listened to a conservative TV talker (expert) say the basic things that I did.That Obama had left his half brother in a Kenya slum. That did not disapprove the end of life conselling in the bills. Sitting beside her was liberal TV talker (expert).....no defense from them either.
To DEMs and Liberals that like and support Obama, he has this magical cape. You can can make legitimate points and they don't need to response or enter a discourse.
You voice valid a concern....and they give you the 5th degree about 'who and why'....instead of just answering the question and being part of a honest debate. That is being evasive. Which is a form of lieing. It is always your lacking or your failure for asking the question, not Obama's or DEMs. That is elitest and arrogant.
Well consider this. Our hospice (that cover the entire country) have had end of life conseling for a very long time (20 years+). In which they have all the major points of wills, burial, family conseling in their programd.
So why does the Obama administration want to duplicate hospice programs that have had success for many years? They work from gifts and grants....are cost effective.....and have a local touch that surely the FED government cannot have.
Only reason, I come up with. These hospices by law don't much file much paper work to any government agency on the end of life decisions. They stay within the laws on the patient privacy.
In other words this end of life conselling is already covered in the country. Just not 'to how' the DEMs want the information of the conseling session to be handled. So now we can all speculate on the 'why' because surely the answers to such a simple question will not be forth coming in this thread.
To DEMs and Liberals that like and support Obama, he has this magical cape. You can can make legitimate points and they don't need to response or enter a discourse.
You voice valid a concern....and they give you the 5th degree about 'who and why'....instead of just answering the question and being part of a honest debate. That is being evasive. Which is a form of lieing. It is always your lacking or your failure for asking the question, not Obama's or DEMs. That is elitest and arrogant.
Well consider this. Our hospice (that cover the entire country) have had end of life conseling for a very long time (20 years+). In which they have all the major points of wills, burial, family conseling in their programd.
So why does the Obama administration want to duplicate hospice programs that have had success for many years? They work from gifts and grants....are cost effective.....and have a local touch that surely the FED government cannot have.
Only reason, I come up with. These hospices by law don't much file much paper work to any government agency on the end of life decisions. They stay within the laws on the patient privacy.
In other words this end of life conselling is already covered in the country. Just not 'to how' the DEMs want the information of the conseling session to be handled. So now we can all speculate on the 'why' because surely the answers to such a simple question will not be forth coming in this thread.
Well... if Obama have not helped his half bro in Kenya then the reason is some thing he knows and it is his prioivate life and I am sure there is a good reason behind this decision knowing a bout Obama and the way he conciders and reconciders any decesions he makes. any way if he really travelled there to help his half brother you guys would make a scean out of it and would claim that Bin laden some how was involved and would make several lie stories which would even make a dead cow laughing!
You republicans really treuly created a disaster out of american health system during your bloody eight years TT but sure... being aware about many people just forget the past for being able to go on... you try it wll to claim some thing else.
Are there ANY Conservative Experts any where any way? those guys are experts on how to make a lie eatable for others and making a fool out of them and not much else... dont forget both Limbaugh and O,Reily and Palin and MaCain and Cheney and even Joe the Plumber NOT are some of your so called experts TT!
Hot_Single_Dude: Yes... greed is a terrible thing and greed is one of the reasons we are facing most of the problems we are facing in this planet and when greed can be tamed most problems will stop to exist as well.
..................
.........J.D
littlewolf: This is how grand Obama is,I have a rare form of anemia.The shots to keep me alive cost $2600 each,I need two a month.I cant afford the 20%, $520.00 a month.So I die.And for the first time since the program started in the 70s,we wont get a cost of living raise this year on our ss.While he takes his family all over the world,and this weekend its Marthas vineyard,where they have his favorite booze on tap at the local bar.Hes bankrupting American,so we can buy new cars,if u can live long enough to drive one.I sent him an email to ,Keep hunting u will find a place that the email goes to him.Hes a star statis seeker,who cares nothing about America or her people.
Maybe a few words for assistance.
There are a number of different kinds of Amenias. And your post is not specific to the type you have.
I did a general google search under "Amenia Research Grants".
Found research grants for the following kinds of Amenia
Fancoli
Aplastic
Cooley
Research grant awards always need specific case to investigate of a disease. Grants (many from GWB administration) were made to these research parties.
So first idea....connect with a research organization in your kind of Amenia....they might be able to aid you in getting the treatments.
Second idea. Not likely you will find any of these near your location. Ask you private physician to participate in the specific research study. He learns more of your condition and the the research group has a another party to aid in the research data collection.
Third idea. Contact a local non profit hospital or community hospital for a list of the local medical gift providers. These parties often have foundations for medical care. Contact them explain your conditions and situation.
Likely you have done some or all of this. Hang in there. People are in medical care industry to aid others, not to keep medical
care from those indeed.
I am not a Drs, so cannot offer any kind of medical advice. But these have worked for others in similar situations.
Hot_Single_Dude: Yes... greed is a terrible thing and greed is one of the resons we are facing most of the problems we are facing in this planet and when greed can be tamed most problems will stop to exist as well.
That's a tough one! Try to convince a greedy person to do someone a favor, someone they have never met! Not in a million years!
They hide behind words to cover their inadequacies and dirt and look upon you with high noses as if you have no right to be on this planet.
I saved myself from mental breakdowns by telling myself "It's no one's fault you were born." At least that's true.
Hot_Single_Dude: I made a post responding to littewolf Bruno!
Check the time stamp pudding pop. We hit the post button about the same time.
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There are many many intelligent americans thinking and re thinking now on days and what I beleive is intelligence will "normally" win no matter where on earth we are talking a bout.
Change and doing some thing else than what we are used to is always hard but be certain TT... time have changed and more and more americans are going to find out why it is so terribly wrong pumping billions to the private runned health care system instead of using some of it and at least ten procwent of the same amount on government runned helaht care where the government will be the guarantee and will make sure too many mistakes and too much stealing americans money will not be possible ! Many of these private runned orgnisations have made a true fool out of you for years TT with all respect... some day even you will be able to see more clear!
Winds are strong right now... there is a storm going on and many americans do not have any real ideas a bout how things are taken cared of in other countries and many just listening to rumors and to those never ever been in Europe or in Canada and do not want to be there or knowing a bout differnet helth care systems... nationalism some times making people going Blind but still things will not going to stay this way too long time TT.
With his poll number sinking....the President that once said...'people should not cling to their religion'.....runs to the clergy and the Bible for support. I agree when times are tough and hard....seeking faith is a wise thing. Actually even when things are good and easy, it is a wise thing.
But when the country was struggling with two wars in 2002-2007,
the DEMs were hardly the ones saying be calm and seek faith.
Rather then the DEMs did a back flip from the country and stood divisive against the wars.
So today....with the DEM ship being battered in the health care debate....it is time to seek faith. Reach out to your fellow man and be kind....give him some DEM legislated health care. Be kind to him, cover him with the DEM health care blanket.
Where was that charitable attitude to the little old white ladies appeared in the REV Wright debate of the election? "Every one of them does it.....has the bias opinion of blacks."
But then when a REP talks of his/her Christian in a tough time.
He skewred in liberal media and by liberals. For GWB to mention his faith while in two wars, would have been a insult to Islam.
Look how Sarah Palin was treated in her faith based positions.
But it is surely OK for a liberal President that is in two wars to hold hands with faith clergy!
There is some real duplicity (a kind word to use here) of liberals and DEMs when it comes to faith. It is OK for liberal faith to be espoused, but when those REP Conservatives....they certainly could not have any faith in God...they are all war mongers and haters.