Did Barack Obama's Speech in Cairo swell you with pride? (77)
avecaimSan Jose, California USA9 Threads 1 Polls 4,084 PostsBack to main theme, yes this speech deed make me feel encouraged. I was so glad to finally hear a politician talk about sacred texts such as the Koran in order to foster unity with other cultures. I was moved that he had the spiritual depth to discuss the concepts of Respect, Peace, and Freedom. It's been a long time since I have felt that hopeful for improving peaceful relations between the nations. 
jvaski: Somehow I knew you would inform us the DEMs caused this ..
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Nothing,unless they finally annul that Unholy Marriage between Politics and Business!Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Goes for both sides of the Aisle!
To keep their Grubby Little Appendages out of the Pie,especially since it doesn't belong to them.
There is enough Blame to go all around,plenty of it!
jvaski: Somehow I knew you would inform us the DEMs caused this ..
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Actually all I am really saying is they (both parties) are part of it, Jvaski.
For the last 6 months, the DEMs have been acting like none of
this had any of their finger prints on it. The hope and change that President Obama brought, gave them the ability to divest themselves of the recent past. Being my age and still with memory, I remember when those finger prints were made.
Many DEMs jumped in there to proclaim....we are that hope and change, a new day is here...when in reality...they have been a pretty big part of the broken Washington over the last decade.
Grinrich just proposed a different level and way to fund Medicaid and Medicare, he still needed support of both parties to make it happen. After the DEM negative campaigning on him and it....he got support from neither party. DEMs negative campaign killed a solid proposal to cut gov't waste.
But if ones looks back on it today......Newt G had it right back then. Is Medicare and Medicaid bloated? Yes. $313b worth of bloat? I don't know. But also that just one year's bloat. Grinrich was talking this problem in the Clinton Administration.
Think that today....if much of that decade old bloat had not occurred the REP would be resisting the $1.6 trillion Obama plan as stiffly? REP know that once a gov't program gets rolling....it rolls....and ...rolls......and rolls.
What REP see is Obama's $1.6 trillion plan becoming bloated as well. When tacked on with the other debts being rung up on the Chinese abacus.....er.....cash register.....er......computer, pretty hard for future Americans to pay the debt.
Things that DEMs have done right....sure......born in a great country. Live in a great country. Most support democracy and the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In general are good people.
I would sit down and light fireworks with most DEMs on the 4th of July.
Now if they stop only stop calling me a Neocon......
avecaim: Back to main theme, yes this speech deed make me feel encouraged. I was so glad to finally hear a politician talk about sacred texts such as the Koran in order to foster unity with other cultures. I was moved that he had the spiritual depth to discuss the concepts of Respect, Peace, and Freedom. It's been a long time since I have felt that hopeful for improving peaceful relations between the nations.
As he slept in a room w/2 ft thick walls and 250 Secret Service agents watching over the babe in the manger. Now if he only had 3 wise men in his cabinet.
I'd settle for one wise man right now, see you soon 
avecaim: I'd settle for one wise man right now, see you soon
So would he.
jvaski: Somehow I knew you would inform us the DEMs caused this ..
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
No not in my life time !!!!Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
jvaski: Somehow I knew you would inform us the DEMs caused this ..
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Is there anything you can think of that they did right ?
Well, Johnson didn't run for a 2nd term. That count?
Indyfella: Well, Johnson didn't run for a 2nd term. That count?
ttom500: I see if I fill in the gap...Fallingman.
Presently there are some 1300 medical insurance companies in the US.
Now President Obama health care program is to give gov't health care to the 40% of the country that don't ave it. Give...either by gov't voucher, or credits, or the tax as you use program. Every American will qualify for the program, even the 60% that do have health insurance.
Now none of the 1300 companies providing health insurance can complete with the FED government. The base of users for this Gov't program is larger than any of theirs. The costs....even if it the tax program that is being discussed....will be cheaper than the
rates of these 1300 firms.
This very competitive Medical insurance industry will soon going have many companies folding up. A lot of unemployment will result.
Free enterprise, Fallingman. People spent their career lives building this industry in the country. Now Government can force them out of business.
Gov't should regulate insurance for quality and performance, yes. But not compete in it.
Gov't ineffeincy in Washington, that broken bit of America...is going to drive up the cost. It always does. The projected cost
of the gov't program is $1 trillion over 10 years. Where does President find the money? Not sure the Chinese want to pay for our health care. Suspect they are going to want us to pay for their social security in the next five years with those T-Bills.
Money either comes from the tax payer or the printing press.
Health care in this country employs 1 in 5. If President Obama messes it ....we are being scammed....and we got it wrong....
massive lay offs, hospitals closing, DR. shutting down.
Actually it is really simple. To get health insurance for these 40%. It is at the state level. State already use these 1300 companies to insure their workers, teachers, etc. Just start state program with the exiting firms. Grow thier business...and keep the FED out of it.
The numbers quoted are of 40-45 million without insurance, but we are not told if that number encompasses the estimated 13-20 million illegal aliens in the country, nor what the ages of the uninsured are. Many people can afford to cover themselves, but choose not to-mainly those in their 20's and 30's. With a government program, business owners are incentivized to have taxpayer's pay for their employee's benefits instead which will cause many people to opt for the taxpayer-funded system over an employer-based or private one-causing a rise in cost.Presently there are some 1300 medical insurance companies in the US.
Now President Obama health care program is to give gov't health care to the 40% of the country that don't ave it. Give...either by gov't voucher, or credits, or the tax as you use program. Every American will qualify for the program, even the 60% that do have health insurance.
Now none of the 1300 companies providing health insurance can complete with the FED government. The base of users for this Gov't program is larger than any of theirs. The costs....even if it the tax program that is being discussed....will be cheaper than the
rates of these 1300 firms.
This very competitive Medical insurance industry will soon going have many companies folding up. A lot of unemployment will result.
Free enterprise, Fallingman. People spent their career lives building this industry in the country. Now Government can force them out of business.
Gov't should regulate insurance for quality and performance, yes. But not compete in it.
Gov't ineffeincy in Washington, that broken bit of America...is going to drive up the cost. It always does. The projected cost
of the gov't program is $1 trillion over 10 years. Where does President find the money? Not sure the Chinese want to pay for our health care. Suspect they are going to want us to pay for their social security in the next five years with those T-Bills.
Money either comes from the tax payer or the printing press.
Health care in this country employs 1 in 5. If President Obama messes it ....we are being scammed....and we got it wrong....
massive lay offs, hospitals closing, DR. shutting down.
Actually it is really simple. To get health insurance for these 40%. It is at the state level. State already use these 1300 companies to insure their workers, teachers, etc. Just start state program with the exiting firms. Grow thier business...and keep the FED out of it.
BebeII: The numbers quoted are of 40-45 million without insurance, but we are not told if that number encompasses the estimated 13-20 million illegal aliens in the country, nor what the ages of the uninsured are. Many people can afford to cover themselves, but choose not to-mainly those in their 20's and 30's. With a government program, business owners are incentivized to have taxpayer's pay for their employee's benefits instead which will cause many people to opt for the taxpayer-funded system over an employer-based or private one-causing a rise in cost.
dead on.
ziggysdad: Why not go back to witch doctors,voodoo, and miracle cures LMAO
Conrad? No, he is his own witch doctor!
Fallingman: Conrad? No, he is his own witch doctor!
Ever heard of Marie Laveau?She is my Sister!
So you better watch your Stitches!
Then I have a Cousin in Exuma,they call him the Obeah Man!
Conrad73: Ever heard of Marie Laveau?
She is my Sister!
So you better watch your Stitches!
Then I have a Cousin in Exuma,they call him the Obeah Man!
She is my Sister!
So you better watch your Stitches!
Then I have a Cousin in Exuma,they call him the Obeah Man!
Are you the only one in Switzerland who believes in
Fallingman: Are you the only one in Switzerland who believes in Ayn Rand Voodoo?
You can laugh all you want about Ayn Rand,doesn't matter.Look up Objectivism next time you have nothing to do,and note it's impact!
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