jlb684: Did you really mean Kissinger? I assume you meant the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, didn't you? Kissinger is still actively out there in the diplomatic arena, and so you may have actually meant him....but all he can do now is offer a powerful lecture, perhaps, but not "sort it out".
No, dear. I did mean Kissinger. Yes, that old unassuming guy who can barely talk Kissinger. As in my other post, I say again, can people really be THAT naive about global policy and what makes nations tick?
Grandepensees: No, dear. I did mean Kissinger. Yes, that old unassuming guy who can barely talk Kissinger. As in my other post, I say again, can people really be THAT naive about global policy and what makes nations tick?
I'm truly not naive about global policy. This is why I did give you the benefit of the doubt that you DID mean Kissinger, for I am aware of his still-heavy influence. I just was wanting to be clear that you did indeed mean him.
jlb684: I'm truly not naive about global policy. This is why I did give you the benefit of the doubt that you DID mean Kissinger, for I am aware of his still-heavy influence. I just was wanting to be clear that you did indeed mean him.
Oh! Then accept my apologies and let's have a drink
Which is most important in a library, all the books or all the authors who wrote those books? International policy is like a library with hundreds of books ( countries ) but we can only understand those countries when we know who write their policies ( authors ). Forgive the imagery, I know it sucks
Grandepensees: Oh! Then accept my apologies and let's have a drink
Which is most important in a library, all the books or all the authors who wrote those books? International policy is like a library with hundreds of books ( countries ) but we can only understand those countries when we know who write their policies ( authors ). Forgive the imagery, I know it sucks
A drink and an interesting discussion. Would if I could. Off to work now...another day of foreign policy matters awaits. (I work in the field, actually!)
RayfromUSA: I think it was meant to be ridiculous. Bush was the idiot "bad-cop". One of his major functions (besides starting wars and killing millions of people) was to be so grotesquely unlikeable that Obama would look good by comparison (at least long enough to get into office and get his programs up and running).
People supported Obama, not on his own record, but because he seemed to be very different from Bush.
But he's really not that different after all.
o crap..it means more works for me to find some suitable cursing words for obama.
mnowsa: o crap..it means more works for me to find some suitable cursing words for obama.
Well, in fact, since they're interchangeable, you can still use the ones you used for Bush, and Clinton and Bush and Reagan and Carter and so on and so forth... Basically, they're all the same. Different wheels on the same car.
Grandepensees: Well, in fact, since they're interchangeable, you can still use the ones you used for Bush, and Clinton and Bush and Reagan and Carter and so on and so forth... Basically, they're all the same. Different wheels on the same car.
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
Im not trying to be difficult , but arent we still theoretically at war with North Korea as only a ceasefire was called , there was never an official end to the war.
I do remember reading recently in a Time magazine that it is still a volatile region the zone between North & South Korea with shots fired on e regular basis.
steve6611: Im not trying to be difficult , but arent we still theoretically at war with North Korea as only a ceasefire was called , there was never an official end to the war.
I do remember reading recently in a Time magazine that it is still a volatile region the zone between North & South Korea with shots fired on e regular basis.
Hell, we have a mini-war going on on the border with Mexico too, does that mean Mexico and the U.S are at war?
But what you say is correct of course. Only we're at war with whomever the Globalists SAY we're at war...Otherwise, it's called "setting up a Democracy"
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
No , it was just I was trying to figure out if we were , as it was sadly the forgotten war. But I love your points in your post , thatns for what you said
BClady: IMHO North Korea has nothing the US wants, except nuclear warheads and they're all aimed directly at the US. I don't think even GWB was that stupid.
steve6611: No , it was just I was trying to figure out if we were , as it was sadly the forgotten war. But I love your points in your post , thatns for what you said
Grandepensees: Hell, we have a mini-war going on on the border with Mexico too, does that mean Mexico and the U.S are at war?
But what you say is correct of course. Only we're at war with whomever the Globalists SAY we're at war...Otherwise, it's called "setting up a Democracy"
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
Oh I loved your earlier post using the example of a library with hundreds of books to represent International Policy, I thought that was a very creative was of describing it.
steve6611: Oh I loved your earlier post using the example of a library with hundreds of books to represent International Policy, I thought that was a very creative was of describing it.
If the Republicans explained their policies the same way, their party would only comprise a few nuts in the backbush of this great country
Grandepensees: If the Republicans explained their policies the same way, their party would only comprise a few nuts in the backbush of this great country
well..if those few "nuts" in the republican party include two "nuts" of mine and two "nuts" of yours, then this great country is safe. But if those few nuts include the likes of Bush, Chenny, Carl Rove, and Rumsfeld, this great country is still screwed up big time
mnowsa: o crap...now that's scary when i realy think about it
Yeah, when one really thinks about it... Now add all of the modern variables to that scenario and you have an inevitability that is pretty hard to ignore.
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
wow those 2 posts were eyeopeners. What has always amazed me is that every empire /great nation believes that theirs will last for eternity & they all run their course .
steve6611: wow those 2 posts were eyeopeners. What has always amazed me is that every empire /great nation believes that theirs will last for eternity & they all run their course .
Oh we'll run our course alright...straight in the gutter
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
. Ok as i respect your opinions & not living in your country, where do you personally see your countries strenghts , weaknesses & problems. I am curious as I have the uptmost respect & admiration for your country.
steve6611: . Ok as i respect your opinions & not living in your country, where do you personally see your countries strenghts , weaknesses & problems. I am curious as I have the uptmost respect & admiration for your country.
Don't take my responses the wrong way though... Nations are like people, born, young, strong, cocky, wise and ...senile I believe our government is getting a little senile in its age... Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Grandepensees: Yeah, when one really thinks about it... Now add all of the modern variables to that scenario and you have an inevitability that is pretty hard to ignore.
no problem brother...we will go to the mars and build a new civilization there, and no republicans will be allowed to settle there. i have already applied to buy a plot there in MARS.
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
Oh I dont take them the wrong way , as I undertake historical research work as afreelance agent I agree that we often forget history. I actually posted a similar coment on the American Culture thread as there was a lot of america bashing from OS people , that both the USA and Australia are still very young nations compared to the European countries & we are both still learning as we go along & sure both countries make mistakes but thats all part of growing up. gee that was too profound
mnowsa: no problem brother...we will go to the mars and build a new civilization there, and no republicans will be allowed to settle there. i have already applied to buy a plot there in MARS.
steve6611: Oh I dont take them the wrong way , as I undertake historical research work as afreelance agent I agree that we often forget history. I actually posted a similar coment on the American Culture thread as there was a lot of america bashing from OS people , that both the USA and Australia are still very young nations compared to the European countries & we are both still learning as we go along & sure both countries make mistakes but thats all part of growing up. gee that was too profound
Yeah, well, the thing about learning is that the student actually listen to the teachers and in this case the teachers should be the countries of the 'old world' and Asia... I really don't see the U.S learning from France or India Too much vanity, too much cockiness... And when a student doesn't want to learn because he thinks he knows better and then start being a bully, usually he's expelled
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No, dear. I did mean Kissinger. Yes, that old unassuming guy who can barely talk Kissinger.
As in my other post, I say again, can people really be THAT naive about global policy and what makes nations tick?