Hi I have recently quit smoking and i am very happy but i find very it tempted when i see people smoking on tv .so weill it be a good idea just to banne smoking on tv .
no the fact is ppl smoke glad to hear that you stoped smoking but the tempation is going to be there and if its a kid movie then yes it should be but if they do then whats next will they take away james bonds martiny"shaken not sturred"
There's always the "off" button on the tube, you know.
... and yes, I'm 100% against censorship.
arif_635: Hi I have recently quit smoking and i am very happy but i find very it tempted when i see people smoking on tv .so weill it be a good idea just to banne smoking on tv .
Until cigarettes are made illegal why ban them. I quit smoking for 3 weeks and started back...just because I wanted too had nothing to do with seeing actors and actresses doing it. It's a matter of your will power. Glad you quit smoking it's very hard to stop this was my second attempt...good luck and if you are that tempted change the channel
seems everyone thinks that censorship on smoking is wrong. hmmmmm so it is ok to say that tobbacco (A drug) is ok ,it is a legal drug but still a drug ....I think the tobbacco companies target the young people get them addicted at an early age when they are easily lead astray and they have a user for life. and IMO if there is a gateway drug at all it would be tobacco...
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
jessejess47: seems everyone thinks that censorship on smoking is wrong. hmmmmm so it is ok to say that tobbacco (A drug) is ok ,it is a legal drug but still a drug ....I think the tobbacco companies target the young people get them addicted at an early age when they are easily lead astray and they have a user for life. and IMO if there is a gateway drug at all it would be tobacco...
petalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland3,101 posts
jessejess47: seems everyone thinks that censorship on smoking is wrong. hmmmmm so it is ok to say that tobbacco (A drug) is ok ,it is a legal drug but still a drug ....I think the tobbacco companies target the young people get them addicted at an early age when they are easily lead astray and they have a user for life. and IMO if there is a gateway drug at all it would be tobacco...
I dont agree, sir, sorry..
Censorship on ANYTHING is wrong, and its a slippery slope. As I have heard Americans say many times, they hold their Amendments in deep love, and rightly so. The same can be said for censoring what we see on TV and in movies.
I am not talking about tobacco advertising, which I think was ok in being banned. Im talking about general TV and Movie watching. Its a very dangerous way to go, because where do you stop, as I said earlier..?
As regards the tobacco companies targetting the young people, then I again disagree. I think it is more that young people are more susceptible to ANYTHING than adults are, whether it be tobacco, drink, expensive runners, etc. Thats just their nature, and was mine when I was that age. Its a question of choice.
As I dont agree with the argument that cannabis is a gateway drug to harder drugs, I dont believe that tobacco is a gateway drug either. Simply dont happen. Again, its a question of choice and free will.
The OPs question was about banning smoking on TV and movies; not whether it should be banned Period.
kissmedeeply: What about children who cant remove themselves from the smokers..
And what makes you think that your kids never gonna smoke when they'll grow up?
kissmedeeply: Who will take care of the innocent..
Nobody's innocent!
kissmedeeply: SMOKING KILLS PEOPLE WHO SMOKE AND THE NON SMOKERS..
Nope...people kill people! And this world is already overpopulated!
I seen smokers die a terrible death..and if its around me or my children..I SURE AS HELL WILL MAKE A BIG STINK ABOUT IT
And I've seen absolutely non-smokers die in a terrible death! (Yes,I used to work in a hospital!)
kissmedeeply: and a big yes to smoking being banned from the world..
And let's bring back the Holy Inquisition too,huh?! (Oh,you might have no idea what was that,but basically it was invented and led by people like you!)
Censorship on ANYTHING is wrong, and its a slippery slope. As I have heard Americans say many times, they hold their Amendments in deep love, and rightly so. The same can be said for censoring what we see on TV and in movies.
I am not talking about tobacco advertising, which I think was ok in being banned. Im talking about general TV and Movie watching. Its a very dangerous way to go, because where do you stop, as I said earlier..?
As regards the tobacco companies targetting the young people, then I again disagree. I think it is more that young people are more susceptible to ANYTHING than adults are, whether it be tobacco, drink, expensive runners, etc. Thats just their nature, and was mine when I was that age. Its a question of choice.
As I dont agree with the argument that cannabis is a gateway drug to harder drugs, I dont believe that tobacco is a gateway drug either. Simply dont happen. Again, its a question of choice and free will.
The OPs question was about banning smoking on TV and movies; not whether it should be banned Period.
Ok I have stated before I do not believe in banning anything anywhere ..however it was proven in court that the tobacco companies did in fact target young Americans as with cartoon like caricature such as "Joe Camel". It was also admitted by the tobacco companies themselves that they withheld thier own findings on how damaging tobacco is to the population...and they went on to admit that they researched ways to make tobacco more addictive and that they did turn over papers where thier research did include ways to advertise to pre-teens.....I think this is correct to my recall ....but if I am wrong here please feel free to correct me
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
Clans74: And what makes you think that your kids never gonna smoke when they'll grow up? Nobody's innocent! And I've seen absolutely non-smokers die in a terrible death! (Yes,I used to work in a hospital!) And let's bring back the Holy Inquisition too,huh?! (Oh,you might have no idea what was that,but basically it was invented and led by people like you!)
petalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland3,101 posts
jessejess47: Ok I have stated before I do not believe in banning anything anywhere ..however it was proven in court that the tobacco companies did in fact target young Americans as with cartoon like caricature such as "Joe Camel". It was also admitted by the tobacco companies themselves that they withheld thier own findings on how damaging tobacco is to the population...and they went on to admit that they researched ways to make tobacco more addictive and that they did turn over papers where thier research did include ways to advertise to pre-teens.....I think this is correct to my recall ....but if I am wrong here please feel free to correct me
That may be so, as regards "Joe Camel", and as I have never heard of him, then I will take your word for it. The point is, that young people are not forced to put a cigarette in their mouth by anyone, however many "Joe Camels" there are..
As regards the health issues regarding smoking in general, I dont think there is anyone on the planet who thinks that smoking is good for you, myself included. I am well aware of the nasties they contain. Smoking is a horrible thing to do to one's body, yes, I certainly dont dispute that, and I intend to give up at some point in the future.
The point is, as regards this particular thread, is that banning smoking and tobacco from our TVs and cinemas is a form of censorship. In that respect, I am dead against it. Im against the censorship issue, NOT the dangers of smoking. Two completely different issues.
Y'all need to watch that South Park episode with Rob Reiner in it! Censorship and banning things lead straightly to dictatorship..so much about living in a free world!
im 24 i tryed smoking i did not like it the fact is as many ppl have said is a matter of choice. as for children
kissmedeeply: innocent what the hell are you talking about newborn children and ones that cant get up and get away from these smokers..
yes they are but if the perents dont care enought to walk out of the room when they smoke then if they develope something down the road then its on there shoulders. i dont smoke becouse i dont want to i drink when i want to its my choice. i know ppl that did drugs and then started smoking so as far as it being a gateway drug that i dont belive is true.
jessejess47: seems everyone thinks that censorship on smoking is wrong. hmmmmm so it is ok to say that tobbacco (A drug) is ok ,it is a legal drug but still a drug ....I think the tobbacco companies target the young people get them addicted at an early age when they are easily lead astray and they have a user for life. and IMO if there is a gateway drug at all it would be tobacco...
I have to disagree with you on that one Jess (gateway drug). Every single smoker that I personally know doesn't do dope (the illegal variety). Caffeine is also a legal drug if you want to be technical about it. It has the same properties as tobacco. It's addictive, habit forming, etc., yet it's in soft drinks and teas that are sold to children and nobody barks about it.
I could make an argument that Tylenol is a gateway drug or any pain killer for that matter and yet it's sold OTC.
In terms of getting people "addicted" at a young age, there's a name for it: "brand building." Businesses do this for a whole host of products, ranging from cereal to branded pharmaceuticals, independent from the fact that a product might have addictive properties. There's nothing as valuable to a company as a loyal customer who buys because they like the brand and is willing to pay a higher price to get that brand for the rest of his life. If the product isn't addictive in and by itself, then people are being manipulated into believing that brand x is what they need, that it can't be substituted, that it tastes/feels better, etc. There's a whole science behind this. Marketers in the US are better at understanding the human mind than psychologists and psychiatrists!
phantom2: im 24 i tryed smoking i did not like it the fact is as many ppl have said is a matter of choice. as for children yes they are but if the perents dont care enought to walk out of the room when they smoke then if they develope something down the road then its on there shoulders. i dont smoke becouse i dont want to i drink when i want to its my choice. i know ppl that did drugs and then started smoking so as far as it being a gateway drug that i dont belive is true.
so your saying that if I am sitting eating dinner with my family and you after you have finished your dinner you light a smoke then I should get up take my childern from thier dinner and go outside so that you can smoke ......seems fair to me.....
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
phantom2: im 24 i tryed smoking i did not like it the fact is as many ppl have said is a matter of choice. as for children yes they are but if the perents dont care enought to walk out of the room when they smoke then if they develope something down the road then its on there shoulders. i dont smoke becouse i dont want to i drink when i want to its my choice. i know ppl that did drugs and then started smoking so as far as it being a gateway drug that i dont belive is true.
you just dont get it do you??
Newborns cant get out of the room on there own..
The smokers can get up and get the hell out of the room if they want to smoke..how about that
Scubadiva: I have to disagree with you on that one Jess (gateway drug). Every single smoker that I personally know doesn't do dope (the illegal variety). Caffeine is also a legal drug if you want to be technical about it. It has the same properties as tobacco. It's addictive, habit forming, etc., yet it's in soft drinks and teas that are sold to children and nobody barks about it.
I could make an argument that Tylenol is a gateway drug or any pain killer for that matter and yet it's sold OTC.
In terms of getting people "addicted" at a young age, there's a name for it: "brand building." Businesses do this for a whole host of products, ranging from cereal to branded pharmaceuticals, independent from the fact that a product might have addictive properties. There's nothing as valuable to a company as a loyal customer who buys because they like the brand and is willing to pay a higher price to get that brand for the rest of his life. If the product isn't addictive in and by itself, then people are being manipulated into believing that brand x is what they need, that it can't be substituted, that it tastes/feels better, etc. There's a whole science behind this. Marketers in the US are better at understanding the human mind than psychologists and psychiatrists!
ok first I said "IF" there is a gateway drug it would IMO be tobacco...and how many food companies do reseach on how to make thier food more addictive ...and to target our childern with ads that they know will turn their heads ,and make the product more addictive is criminal to say the least ...they are the only product I know of where their own reseach showed that it will in fact cause death of thier own customers
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