who are the biggest threat to world security (107)

Sep 15, 2009 5:47 PM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
jetdevil2001: And allowing Al Qaeda enter Iraq as the result, Saddam, actually, did his best for keeping that taliban crap away from Iraq.

You mean Sadam never had anything to do with terrorism ? Why was he paying all the suiside bommers family's after they blew them self up . Why was ther training bases in Iraq . They even found a plane that was used as a terrorist traing plane so they could properly take over air planes out side of bagdad. Who tried to send terrorist groups to the united states to Kill Mr bush . Who was responsible !!! OOOH Well believe what you want facts don't mean anything anyway. And if you read news papers from out side the U S they found chemical Weapons there but refused to admit it because of where they come from. If you remember they used them on the kirds but I guess sadam Just waved his magic wand and they all vanished.Now syria is considered on of the largest chemical countries in the world .
Sep 16, 2009 3:19 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
jetdevil2001
jetdevil2001jetdevil2001Tashkent, Uzbekistan6 Threads 1 Polls 406 Posts
lonelycowboy101: You mean Sadam never had anything to do with terrorism ? Why was he paying all the suiside bommers family's after they blew them self up . Why was ther training bases in Iraq . They even found a plane that was used as a terrorist traing plane so they could properly take over air planes out side of bagdad. Who tried to send terrorist groups to the united states to Kill Mr bush . Who was responsible !!! OOOH Well believe what you want facts don't mean anything anyway. And if you read news papers from out side the U S they found chemical Weapons there but refused to admit it because of where they come from. If you remember they used them on the kirds but I guess sadam Just waved his magic wand and they all vanished.Now syria is considered on of the largest chemical countries in the world .


I know there were chemical weapon in Iraq, and agianst whom Saddam used it. But who did supply him with this weapon, certainly Your Western countries, who supplied Saddam with gun, yes, again, western governments. Saddam was one of western puppets, a mean against your previous closest partner of Iran, and west supported him with that murder facilities, but strange things happen, when you partner turns aginst you, your governments, strangelly open their eyes to his crimes. I have no need to believe western press regarding Iraq they are biased in this sense, there were too many disinformation coming out of your government and influenced by this facts press
Sep 16, 2009 5:45 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
EliteOne
EliteOneEliteOneBrisbane, Queensland Australia38 Threads 1,590 Posts
Seems to me good old UK slips under the radar. I would say damn good politics by the UK! grin
Sep 16, 2009 6:05 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
jetdevil2001: I know there were chemical weapon in Iraq, and agianst whom Saddam used it. But who did supply him with this weapon, certainly Your Western countries, who supplied Saddam with gun, yes, again, western governments. Saddam was one of western puppets, a mean against your previous closest partner of Iran, and west supported him with that murder facilities, but strange things happen, when you partner turns aginst you, your governments, strangelly open their eyes to his crimes. I have no need to believe western press regarding Iraq they are biased in this sense, there were too many disinformation coming out of your government and influenced by this facts press

Yes I will agree with you. We built Iran into power and suported a dictator that was brutal tyrent then when he was thrown from power we built sadam and armed him to fight IRAN . Killing thousands of Iraq and Iran solders . That is why I said they would not report that there were weapons of mass destruction there because of who supplied them It is clearly known that we supplied them to Iraq and turned our Back when he used them against IRan . Then we had to remove him so the Gulf war. and we wonder why people don't trust U S . but on the other hand other countries have done this too playing people like pawns in a chess game . cheers
Sep 16, 2009 6:15 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
EliteOne
EliteOneEliteOneBrisbane, Queensland Australia38 Threads 1,590 Posts
lonelycowboy101: Yes I will agree with you. We built Iran into power and suported a dictator that was brutal tyrent then when he was thrown from power we built sadam and armed him to fight IRAN . Killing thousands of Iraq and Iran solders . That is why I said they would not report that there were weapons of mass destruction there because of who supplied them It is clearly known that we supplied them to Iraq and turned our Back when he used them against IRan . Then we had to remove him so the Gulf war. and we wonder why people don't trust U S . but on the other hand other countries have done this too playing people like pawns in a chess game .


but was it US or UK who needed to be satisfied there were no such weapons or the UN?
Sep 16, 2009 7:34 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
cameraman: China.


China and Israel will do us all laugh
Sep 16, 2009 7:44 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
lerald: Yes, Iraq and Saddam were allies of the united states before he gassed his own people and then started invading other countries. What's your point? And you still can't admit that Saddam Hussein was a murderous dictator who committed Genocide.
So were France and other European States,selling Saddam Hussein weapons in Contravention of UN Resolutions after the First Gulf War!
Sep 16, 2009 8:04 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
lerald: Let's not forget that Saddam Hussein was tried and convicted of war crimes by his own people, and that he got the death sentence for his crimes against humanity. No liberals ever like to admit that one. They think that it's okay for a dictator to gas thousands of his own people, also known as Ethnic Cleansing, Genocide, what ever you want to call it. But it's always G.W.B who is the war criminal.


OH lose that high moral arrogance as if it was anything but a puppet government, a kangaroo court and a good ole wild west lynching where the only dignified person was Saddam himself. The human rights are little better now than they were then.

The truth is that western governments including yours and mine work hand in hand with dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait all the time regardless of their human rights records. We have China executing prisoners to order too for transplant organs. If we continue to deal with vipers, we will continue to get stung.And sometimes from where you don't expect it. Think of Steve Irwin!

This attitude that we in the west are innocent victims really pisses me off.There's a price to be paid for everything.
Sep 16, 2009 9:29 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Godsgift: OH lose that high moral arrogance as if it was anything but a puppet government, a kangaroo court and a good ole wild west lynching where the only dignified person was Saddam himself. The human rights are little better now than they were then.

The truth is that western governments including yours and mine work hand in hand with dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait all the time regardless of their human rights records. We have China executing prisoners to order too for transplant organs. If we continue to deal with vipers, we will continue to get stung.And sometimes from where you don't expect it. Think of Steve Irwin!

This attitude that we in the west are innocent victims really pisses me off.There's a price to be paid for everything.


Right On brother! thumbs up
Sep 17, 2009 2:11 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
jetdevil2001
jetdevil2001jetdevil2001Tashkent, Uzbekistan6 Threads 1 Polls 406 Posts
lonelycowboy101: Yes I will agree with you. We built Iran into power and suported a dictator that was brutal tyrent then when he was thrown from power we built sadam and armed him to fight IRAN . Killing thousands of Iraq and Iran solders . That is why I said they would not report that there were weapons of mass destruction there because of who supplied them It is clearly known that we supplied them to Iraq and turned our Back when he used them against IRan . Then we had to remove him so the Gulf war. and we wonder why people don't trust U S . but on the other hand other countries have done this too playing people like pawns in a chess game .


So, don't you see hypocrisy in this. If an anti US oriented country does crimes they are evil and your partner does the same US just closes eyes to that facts. too many double standarts are applied...
Sep 17, 2009 2:22 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
jetdevil2001
jetdevil2001jetdevil2001Tashkent, Uzbekistan6 Threads 1 Polls 406 Posts
Conrad73: So were France and other European States,selling Saddam Hussein weapons in Contravention of UN Resolutions after the First Gulf War!


This is still going on. Especially in African countries and main exporter is again US closest partners in Eaatenr Europe of Ukraine, the fact was known long ago, but only now publicity paid attention to that fact, but I consider no sanction will be used against Ukraine government, cause they have a mighty brother above

Sep 21, 2009 9:02 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
Monchi
MonchiMonchiMelbourne, Victoria Australia1 Threads 94 Posts
TartanK: Aye, and we're coming to invade you right now! Flak jackets and hard hats on NOW!!!

And those secret weapons stashed under their kiltshead banger
Sep 24, 2009 12:40 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
i really can not believe someone said saddam hussein was tried buy his own people. the people who tried him were puppets for the USA.
Sep 24, 2009 12:49 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
Godsgift: OH lose that high moral arrogance as if it was anything but a puppet government, a kangaroo court and a good ole wild west lynching where the only dignified person was Saddam himself. The human rights are little better now than they were then.

The truth is that western governments including yours and mine work hand in hand with dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait all the time regardless of their human rights records. We have China executing prisoners to order too for transplant organs. If we continue to deal with vipers, we will continue to get stung.And sometimes from where you don't expect it. Think of Steve Irwin!

This attitude that we in the west are innocent victims really pisses me off.There's a price to be paid for everything.



.........While I disagree with you on your statement concerning 'The only dignified person was Saddam'.....The rest of your post I have to concur with.
Its quite funny on how quickly and convincingly the Western Governments don't mentioned a word on who put Saddam into power in the first place and supported him.....until his 'usefulness' wasn't required anymore ........ cheers thumbs up handshake

J.Dgrin devil
Sep 24, 2009 12:54 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
virgiomonkey: .........While I disagree with you on your statement concerning 'The only dignified person was Saddam'.....The rest of your post I have to concur with.
Its quite funny on how quickly and convincingly the Western Governments don't mentioned a word on who put Saddam into power in the first place and supported him.....until his 'usefulness' wasn't required anymore ........

J.D


It is called "selective memory loss"...i also don't like to remember or mention something when it doesn't suit my purposes, AND i do thank the western government and people for teaching me that "valuable lesson"grin
Sep 24, 2009 1:06 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
mnowsa: It is called "selective memory loss"...i also don't like to remember or mention something when it doesn't suit my purposes, AND i do thank the western government and people for teaching me that "valuable lesson"



...........Good to see you again my Friend..And as per usual,very 'Wise words' you have spoken......I am sure you have heard of the saying from the America Native Indians....'White Man speaks with Fork Tongue'.....Yep,nothing much as changed has it.....??????.. grin

J.D
grin devil
Sep 24, 2009 1:11 AM CST who are the biggest threat to world security
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
virgiomonkey: ...........Good to see you again my Friend..And as per usual,very 'Wise words' you have spoken......I am sure you have heard of the saying from the America Native Indians....'White Man speaks with Fork Tongue'.....Yep,nothing much as changed has it.....??????..

J.D


you are right...they still speak with fork tongue BUT the only difference is that these days most people DON'T really give a crap about what they have to say...rolling on the floor laughing
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