Were we created by Religion or Evolution (123)
TheSecretPenguin: Only in The U.S of Absolute Lunatics
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Extremists will find shelter wherever they can. I think we should be able to separate terrorists from religion / belief systems.
Extremists in Islam and Christianity are just people that truly believe in the vile book their beliefs are based on at some point you just have to say enough is enough your beliefs are idiotic and do not deserve respect just because you want to call it religionExtremists will find shelter wherever they can. I think we should be able to separate terrorists from religion / belief systems.
crotalus_p: Extremists in Islam and Christianity are just people that truly believe in the vile book their beliefs are based on at some point you just have to say enough is enough your beliefs are idiotic and do not deserve respect just because you want to call it religion
show me a religion where it says it's ok to fly planes into buildings full of people
they interpreted islam and the koran in their own mad way to start the holy war
jonathan_heart: show me a religion where it says it's ok to fly planes into buildings full of people
The text of the Koran clearly state that martyrdom is a way to heaven , and encase you missed it the people that flew the plains into the twin towers where of the belief that they where committing an act of martyrdom 
crotalus_p: The text of the Koran clearly state that martyrdom is a way to heaven , and encase you missed it the people that flew the plains into the twin towers where of the belief that they where committing an act of martyrdom
Oh the Christians are right into their martyrs too! Big on pain and suffering are the Christians! And 3000 of the twin towers pales into insignificance compared to the passover and the death of the first born in Egypt or Noah and the flood!
kev147: they interpreted islam and the koran in their own mad way to start the holy war
Have you read the koran??? I have they did not interpret it in a mad way they just took it literally , they wheree true believersno man but i do intend to,
is it easily available ?
is it easily available ?
kev147: no man but i do intend to,
is it easily available ?
Yep , you can pick up a copy in easons pretty cheap (mass market paper back) its usually spelt Qur’an as apposed to Koranis it easily available ?
crotalus_p: Yep , you can pick up a copy in easons pretty cheap (mass market paper back) its usually spelt Qur’an as apposed to Koran
going by their website you can get it for 5.27crotalus_p: Yep , you can pick up a copy in easons pretty cheap (mass market paper back) its usually spelt Qur’an as apposed to Koran
be careful not too pay with Credit Card..."they" might be watching
crotalus_p: Yep , you can pick up a copy in easons pretty cheap (mass market paper back) its usually spelt Qur’an as apposed to Koran
sound thanks Crotalus i'll have a look today
crotalus_p: Yep , you can pick up a copy in easons pretty cheap (mass market paper back) its usually spelt Qur’an as apposed to Koran
sound thanks Crotalus i'll have a look today
crotalus_p: Extremists in Islam and Christianity are just people that truly believe in the vile book their beliefs are based on at some point you just have to say enough is enough your beliefs are idiotic and do not deserve respect just because you want to call it religion
The Koran or Bible are not vile books (if thats what you mean)some might argue that is an extremist point of view? and yes it is mans interpretation that is the problem, just like Sharia Law which is an extremist interprtation of the koran
crotalus_p: The text of the Koran clearly state that martyrdom is a way to heaven , and encase you missed it the people that flew the plains into the twin towers where of the belief that they where committing an act of martyrdom
Funny but I always thought martyrdom was gained from doing positive things, ie. helping people not killing them
TheSecretPenguin: be careful not too pay with Credit Card..."they" might be watching
No truer words..
I believe in god and that the world and everything in it was created by him, evolution is gods work in progress, you say that science has been proven so explain to me how the universe was created and what started the big bang?
jonathan_heart: Funny but I always thought martyrdom was gained from doing positive things, ie. helping people not killing them
yes but again it depends on how its interpreted!No Where in the Koran does it state you must kill for this to happen!
jonathan_heart: Funny but I always thought martyrdom was gained from doing positive things, ie. helping people not killing them
Oh no, you can martyr yourself for a cause too, no matter how insane it is! The church is paricularly good at canonizing people who they themselves have persecuted! You've got to admire that type of
jonathan_heart: Funny but I always thought martyrdom was gained from doing positive things, ie. helping people not killing them
suicide bombers do it and become martyrs,
thats the appeal of it they believe they are going to heavan !
ie blood sacrifice.
the family of bombers are then held in high regard.
its sick
stanley8m: I believe in god and that the world and everything in it was created by him, evolution is gods work in progress, you say that science has been proven so explain to me how the universe was created and what started the big bang?
Nooooooooooooo!
kev147: suicide bombers do it and become martyrs,
thats the appeal of it they believe they are going to heavan !
ie blood sacrifice.
the family of bombers are then held in high regard.
its sick
thats the appeal of it they believe they are going to heavan !
ie blood sacrifice.
the family of bombers are then held in high regard.
its sick
Thats not the teaching of the koran, thats extremists who follow sharia law
kev147: suicide bombers do it and become martyrs,
thats the appeal of it they believe they are going to heavan !
ie blood sacrifice.
the family of bombers are then held in high regard.
its sick
thats the appeal of it they believe they are going to heavan !
ie blood sacrifice.
the family of bombers are then held in high regard.
its sick
held in high regard? by who?
stanley8m: I believe in god and that the world and everything in it was created by him, evolution is gods work in progress, you say that science has been proven so explain to me how the universe was created and what started the big bang?
Im with you let him explain this 1
Think we might need a chat with prof. hawkins
Can i just butt in and say isn't the wonderful thing about life NOT knowing where we came from? 
jonathan_heart: held in high regard? by who?
by all the other brainwashed people who read the koran and would live around the family of the bomber,
by all the extremists in the area,
its on all the documetaries on the subject or any articles ive read
kev147: by all the other brainwashed people who read the koran and would live around the family of the bomber,
by all the extremists in the area,
its on all the documetaries on the subject or any articles ive read
by all the extremists in the area,
its on all the documetaries on the subject or any articles ive read
I know but lets be careful no to tar everyone with the same brush. I believe the extremists are in the vast minority
yes id agree with that alright
nitak: The Koran or Bible are not vile books (if thats what you mean)
They are I have read both cover to cover have you ????More Threads
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Billions of years
Exactly. Many millions of years..
the fossil record proves we did
Have you seen these fossil records?
the problem is that while a lot of moderates are harmless the “respect” allows shelter for the extremists that like to fly plains into buildings
Extremists will find shelter wherever they can. I think we should be able to separate terrorists from religion / belief systems. For if we cant do this, surely it will lead to only more extremism...