Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise? (91)

Nov 13, 2009 2:44 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
angelmarz: i see it serene, i see it!!




confused
Nov 13, 2009 2:50 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
whats interesting is that I've been trying to access the Government sites in respect to the Hemp Industry and agricultural guidelines... and there are papers there, but when you try and open them the site is down, or unable to be found.

These are parlimentary papers and Dept of Ag research papers... doh
Nov 13, 2009 2:52 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
Damianowen: That's another great point. You can basically grow cannabis without pesticides. Probably not to much trouble with weeds either as the plants would probably shade the ground after a while and nothing else would grow (maybe)



you can use organic pesticides / herbicides. With the weeds it depends on soil condition, lighte, etc as weeds still get into broad acre crops, etc..but its the early prevention thats important
Nov 13, 2009 2:53 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
Damianowen: Yeah, that's hitting the nail on the head. I might make it my lifes work to convert the cotton growers into dope farmers and save what's left of the Murray Darling river system which includes the Macquarie, the river that runs through Dubbo.
well now since I'll read more on what water it could save. it would be a great Idea Damian. head banger thumbs up
Nov 13, 2009 2:54 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
steve6611: you can use organic pesticides / herbicides. With the weeds it depends on soil condition, lighte, etc as weeds still get into broad acre crops, etc..but its the early prevention thats important


organic..... ????

companion plantings to reduce weeds and pests????
Nov 13, 2009 2:55 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
melty1: well now since I'll read more on what water it could save. it would be a great Idea Damian.



Hi Melty wave , Cannabis plants on average use 75% more water than cotton & rice.

The weird thing is Cotton was a dry farming technique well into the 1950s world wide.....The cotton fields down south in the USA etc, they just relied on Rainfall ... But they are overwatered like vineyards are starting to be
Nov 13, 2009 2:56 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
Im a big fan of natural pesticides head banger


around here I use a mixture of white vinegar, salt and dishwashing liquid in a spray bottle

and it kills off all the pesky weeds that pop up in the concrete, plus I spray all round the fence line to keep the grass down

drinking
Nov 13, 2009 2:57 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
steve6611: Hi Melty , Cannabis plants on average use 75% more water than cotton & rice.

The weird thing is Cotton was a dry farming technique well into the 1950s world wide.....The cotton fields down south in the USA etc, they just relied on Rainfall ... But they are overwatered like vineyards are starting to be
wave Now I'm confused!confused
Nov 13, 2009 2:58 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
Shell225: organic..... ????

companion plantings to reduce weeds and pests????



Yes thats right, things like garlic, etc remove a lot of the Insects.

Organic sprays are a natural mix of products like vinegar, garlic, conolla, etc & are very effective great for around animals. the other new system is high pressure hot water that kills weeds permanently , very costly though at prsent
Nov 13, 2009 2:58 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
melty1: Now I'm confused!



whats wrong Melty , which parts are confusing hug
Nov 13, 2009 2:59 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
steve6611: Hi Melty , Cannabis plants on average use 75% more water than cotton & rice.

The weird thing is Cotton was a dry farming technique well into the 1950s world wide.....The cotton fields down south in the USA etc, they just relied on Rainfall ... But they are overwatered like vineyards are starting to be


Is that a typo Steve???? Its less isnt it????

bizzare about the cotton, although money is made via increased yeilds.. so it makes sense to pump the water, pesticides and fertilisers in...

hmmmmm would this become the future of the hemp industry dunno
Nov 13, 2009 2:59 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
steve6611: whats wrong Melty , which parts are confusing
I thought hemp used less water, than cotton. thats all.dunno
Nov 13, 2009 3:01 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
steve6611: Yes thats right, things like garlic, etc remove a lot of the Insects.

Organic sprays are a natural mix of products like vinegar, garlic, conolla, etc & are very effective great for around animals. the other new system is high pressure hot water that kills weeds permanently , very costly though at prsent
Steves backyard thread! rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 13, 2009 3:01 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
melty1: I thought hemp used less water, than cotton. thats all.




Oh sorry did I write it wrong, yes it uses over 75% less water than cotton.


But what I was adding & sorry if it was confusing is that cotton was never heavily irrigated its only a very recent agriculture practise.

sorry Melty hug
Nov 13, 2009 3:02 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
Shell225: Is that a typo Steve???? Its less isnt it????

bizzare about the cotton, although money is made via increased yeilds.. so it makes sense to pump the water, pesticides and fertilisers in...

hmmmmm would this become the future of the hemp industry



yes thanks to Melty it is a typo sorry everyone
Nov 13, 2009 3:03 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
melty1: Steves backyard thread!



thats so funny rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing .

tomorrow I will show you how to grow your own christmas tree
Nov 13, 2009 3:05 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
steve6611: thats so funny .

tomorrow I will show you how to grow your own christmas tree


I think that it is an industry that should be given an opportunity to get off the ground.

I wish I could get into those govt. papers.
Nov 13, 2009 3:05 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
steve6611: yes thanks to Melty it is a typo sorry everyone
lucky! I have been using a paper bag for my nerves ever since. uncertain laugh
Nov 13, 2009 3:06 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
Shell225: I think that it is an industry that should be given an opportunity to get off the ground.

I wish I could get into those govt. papers.



see what I can find for you Shell, I have contacts at CSIRO & PIRSA ( primary industries in south australia)
Nov 13, 2009 3:07 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
Shell225: I think that it is an industry that should be given an opportunity to get off the ground.

I wish I could get into those govt. papers.
make the papers out of hemp! lightbulb
Nov 13, 2009 3:08 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
melty1: make the papers out of hemp!



what a great idea , thats a brillaint suggestion applause thumbs up
Nov 13, 2009 3:11 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
melty1: make the papers out of hemp!



there was a thread recently on the Inters re: do you still read newspapers conversing
Nov 13, 2009 3:20 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
melty1: make the papers out of hemp!
It might make good tally-ho papers too! rolling on the floor laughing scold
Nov 13, 2009 3:27 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
TheWriteStuff
TheWriteStuffTheWriteStuffCarrum, Victoria Australia51 Posts
Damianowen: They say it's the most useful plant on the planet but it's illegal to grow it in most Western countries. What's your oppinion?


The narcotic type should continue to be illegal, but medicinal uses on prescription, and the commercialisation of hemp for oil, etc should be advanced.

Marijuana as used illicitly today is not the same drug it originally was.

It is now a dangerous drug on a par with heroin.

Studies have proven it is involved in the production of schizophrenia-like psychoses. It causes permanent brain damage.

To those who feel they have a right to use it, I agree as long as you don't ask anyone else to pay the consequences.

That is, you can guarantee to be at work the next day and give a fair day's work.

You will not expect others to pay for your medical care, needed because of the multitude of flow on effects of using the drug.

Unless someone can take the full consequences of their drug use entirely upon themselves (and I doubt very much that is even possible) then drugs like marijuana should not be allowed.
Nov 13, 2009 4:00 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
melty1
melty1melty1Goolwa, South Australia Australia11 Threads 2 Polls 4,121 Posts
TheWriteStuff: The narcotic type should continue to be illegal, but medicinal uses on prescription, and the commercialisation of hemp for oil, etc should be advanced.

Marijuana as used illicitly today is not the same drug it originally was.

It is now a dangerous drug on a par with heroin.

Studies have proven it is involved in the production of schizophrenia-like psychoses. It causes permanent brain damage.

To those who feel they have a right to use it, I agree as long as you don't ask anyone else to pay the consequences.

That is, you can guarantee to be at work the next day and give a fair day's work.

You will not expect others to pay for your medical care, needed because of the multitude of flow on effects of using the drug.

Unless someone can take the full consequences of their drug use entirely upon themselves (and I doubt very much that is even possible) then drugs like marijuana should not be allowed.
Well said! head banger thumbs up
Nov 13, 2009 4:12 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Damianowen
DamianowenDamianowenDubbo, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 4 Polls 718 Posts
steve6611: what a great idea , thats a brillaint suggestion


I think that's actually what they do with the hemp grown in Tasmania. They use it for pulp.
Nov 13, 2009 4:12 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
steve6611
steve6611steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1 Threads 1,767 Posts
Damianowen: I think that's actually what they do with the hemp grown in Tasmania. They use it for pulp.



I think you are correct there mate thumbs up
Nov 13, 2009 4:14 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
Damianowen
DamianowenDamianowenDubbo, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 4 Polls 718 Posts
TheWriteStuff: The narcotic type should continue to be illegal, but medicinal uses on prescription, and the commercialisation of hemp for oil, etc should be advanced.

Marijuana as used illicitly today is not the same drug it originally was.

It is now a dangerous drug on a par with heroin.

Studies have proven it is involved in the production of schizophrenia-like psychoses. It causes permanent brain damage.

To those who feel they have a right to use it, I agree as long as you don't ask anyone else to pay the consequences.

That is, you can guarantee to be at work the next day and give a fair day's work.

You will not expect others to pay for your medical care, needed because of the multitude of flow on effects of using the drug.

Unless someone can take the full consequences of their drug use entirely upon themselves (and I doubt very much that is even possible) then drugs like marijuana should not be allowed.


That's about the size of it. Same goes for alcohol I reckon. Drink all you like but don't show up for work hung over !
Nov 13, 2009 6:33 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
kismat
kismatkismatWhangarei, Northland New Zealand11 Threads 1,869 Posts
Damianowen: That's about the size of it. Same goes for alcohol I reckon. Drink all you like but don't show up for work hung over !


eat drink and be merry wat da fark you no
Nov 14, 2009 12:00 AM CST Cannabis. Legalise or otherwise?
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
melty1: It might make good tally-ho papers too!

full of gr8 ideas Melty !!!rolling on the floor laughing

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