people who don't vote, don't deserve any taxation or social benefits (24)
Crp I voted for instead of against (consider one vote for to actually be a vote against please)
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findmequickly: I really believe that all people living in a country should vote in general elections. Of course there will be the obvious exceptions which we can deal with (sickness, absence etc) and arrange proxy voters on their behalf.
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
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ok, thanks. None of the above would be acceptable i think. someone has then had their say in the voting booth.
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findmequickly: ok, thanks. None of the above would be acceptable
The problem is no government is going to put itself in the position that the population can say no. You will be given a choice, not choosing will not be an option. Even if only one person votes for a candidate and 100,000 spoil their paper that one vote will count and hey presto you're represented by either candidate one or candidate two. They will then legitimize the vote by pointing out that X percentage of the population voted so it was a legitimate election.
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It's not an inforced law but it's illegal in NZ if you don't vote.
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kiwi69: It's not an inforced law but it's illegal in NZ if you don't vote.
And do you have a 'non of the above' on the ballot paper?
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findmequickly: I really believe that all people living in a country should vote in general elections. Of course there will be the obvious exceptions which we can deal with (sickness, absence etc) and arrange proxy voters on their behalf.
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
I think people who don't pay taxes should be barred from voting.It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
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findmequickly: I really believe that all people living in a country should vote in general elections. Of course there will be the obvious exceptions which we can deal with (sickness, absence etc) and arrange proxy voters on their behalf.
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
Those of us who do not vote know our votes mean nothing because presidents are not "ellected" but "sellceted." So, to support a system that does not serve the people is to support the delusion of chioce which cannot exist under the present circumstances. People know this; whereas the sheeple do not.It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
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BebeII: I think people who don't pay taxes should be barred from voting.
The only problem with that is the elderly who have worked all their lives paying taxes, and like myself worked 40 plus years, until a drunk driver decided I should suffer at the whims of the obamanation. But I digress. Everybody pays their taxes so they can think we live a life of luxury.
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People who don't vote, don't deserve any taxation or social benefits.
No taxation.
Sounds great.
No taxation.
Sounds great.
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Moreover, people who do not vote usually will not pay taxes on their personal labour either, & they sure as hell aren't interested in being a welfair recipeint! Freedom loving people want to provide for themselves. They love independence & detest parasites. They understand that it is not their responsiblity to feed, house, clothe, & educated other peoples children.
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kiwi69: It's not an inforced law but it's illegal in NZ if you don't vote.
Easy to remedy.
Just install diebold voting machines (like they use in the US) in everybody's home.
Then people can vote as often as they like, even every day, and it will have exactly the same effect on the election. (none at all)
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Nada! Zero!
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BebeII: I think people who don't pay taxes should be barred from voting.
Does that include the sick, the pensioners, the war vets et al??? Curious of Liverpool here.
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How about if you just don't pay taxes, and your employment, pay check is payed with tax dollars. Should you vote then? From a 2005 report, "Nearly half a million federal employees refused to pay income tax:"
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findmequickly: I really believe that all people living in a country should vote in general elections. Of course there will be the obvious exceptions which we can deal with (sickness, absence etc) and arrange proxy voters on their behalf.
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
There's quite a few countries where voting is not compulsory, the USA being the main one. In Australia it's compulsory with some nasty fines if you don't & that's the system I'm used to.
In countries where you don't have to vote, I don't agree you shouldn't get social benefits. Even people who don't vote have to pay tax. If you choose not to vote, though, don't complain about who won the election later. Just my opinion.
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Abram: The only problem with that is the elderly who have worked all their lives paying taxes, and like myself worked 40 plus years, until a drunk driver decided I should suffer at the whims of the obamanation. But I digress. Everybody pays their taxes so they can think we live a life of luxury.
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findmequickly: I really believe that all people living in a country should vote in general elections. Of course there will be the obvious exceptions which we can deal with (sickness, absence etc) and arrange proxy voters on their behalf.
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?
No taxation? Sounds great to me.
Voting generally doesn't offer any real choice, and is largely pointless in the U.S., imo. I would've voted for Ron Paul (or someone representing real change), but I can't see affirming someone whom I despise - and that's pretty much everyone else.
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scousedon: Does that include the sick, the pensioners, the war vets et al??? Curious of Liverpool here.
There is a large amount of people who can but do not work, and yet are free to vote themselves benefits-these are those I am speaking of. Obviously, those you mention do not count.------ This poll is Archived ------
Locolynch: Those of us who do not vote know our votes mean nothing because presidents are not "ellected" but "sellceted." So, to support a system that does not serve the people is to support the delusion of chioce which cannot exist under the present circumstances. People know this; whereas the sheeple do not.
If you participate by voting, I think, you're sanctioning the current system. It would be like voting in the Roman coliseums for three lions to eat the Christians rather than four. It would've been immoral to have even participated in such a vote, and that analogy applies to some degree now. And right, no one (other than someone like Ron Paul) is in a position to receive your vote for a major office unless he's been bought and sold for that position.
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BebeII: The elderly and retired that I know still pay taxes. Sorry to hear about your run in with a drunk driver.
I still pay taxes too, I guess I was thinking payroll taxes, and I am so angry about how the left has created a system which invites American citizens to get on the government dole. A system that increases federal, tax exempt, employees, and private business factions, who are paid the majority of tax dollars before the purpose of the tax is ever met. " The federal government’s payroll may grow by more than 200,000, and perhaps as much as 600,000, over the course of the Obama administration. Obama’s budgets, which would result in record deficit spending of $9.3 trillion, would add at least 100,000 additional bureaucrats during just his first budget, and perhaps as many as 250,000.
Government employees have radically better benefits and pensions than private sector workers. “When wages and benefits are combined, federal civilian workers averaged $119,982 in 2008, twice the amount of $59,909 which workers in the private sector averaged for wages/benefits. The value of benefits for federal civilian workers averaged $40,000/year, four times the value of benefits that the average private sector employee receives. Only 12% of retirees from the private sector have defined benefit pensions to supplement Social Security. Their average annual pension is $13,083, and they are not eligible for full Social Security benefits until their late 60s. But the majority of public sector workers have pension plans that allow them to retire 10-25 years earlier with benefits many times the retirement payout that Social Security would provide. In San Jose, California, 256 retired officers and firefighters and 34 other city workers collect $100,000+ pensions, and all city retirees get free healthcare.”
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Here's the link for the quote I used, above, I like to back up what I say.
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Abram: I still pay taxes too, I guess I was thinking payroll taxes, and I am so angry about how the left has created a system which invites American citizens to get on the government dole. A system that increases federal, tax exempt, employees, and private business factions, who are paid the majority of tax dollars before the purpose of the tax is ever met.
" The federal government’s payroll may grow by more than 200,000, and perhaps as much as 600,000, over the course of the Obama administration. Obama’s budgets, which would result in record deficit spending of $9.3 trillion, would add at least 100,000 additional bureaucrats during just his first budget, and perhaps as many as 250,000.
Government employees have radically better benefits and pensions than private sector workers. “When wages and benefits are combined, federal civilian workers averaged $119,982 in 2008, twice the amount of $59,909 which workers in the private sector averaged for wages/benefits. The value of benefits for federal civilian workers averaged $40,000/year, four times the value of benefits that the average private sector employee receives. Only 12% of retirees from the private sector have defined benefit pensions to supplement Social Security. Their average annual pension is $13,083, and they are not eligible for full Social Security benefits until their late 60s. But the majority of public sector workers have pension plans that allow them to retire 10-25 years earlier with benefits many times the retirement payout that Social Security would provide. In San Jose, California, 256 retired officers and firefighters and 34 other city workers collect $100,000+ pensions, and all city retirees get free healthcare.”
" The federal government’s payroll may grow by more than 200,000, and perhaps as much as 600,000, over the course of the Obama administration. Obama’s budgets, which would result in record deficit spending of $9.3 trillion, would add at least 100,000 additional bureaucrats during just his first budget, and perhaps as many as 250,000.
Government employees have radically better benefits and pensions than private sector workers. “When wages and benefits are combined, federal civilian workers averaged $119,982 in 2008, twice the amount of $59,909 which workers in the private sector averaged for wages/benefits. The value of benefits for federal civilian workers averaged $40,000/year, four times the value of benefits that the average private sector employee receives. Only 12% of retirees from the private sector have defined benefit pensions to supplement Social Security. Their average annual pension is $13,083, and they are not eligible for full Social Security benefits until their late 60s. But the majority of public sector workers have pension plans that allow them to retire 10-25 years earlier with benefits many times the retirement payout that Social Security would provide. In San Jose, California, 256 retired officers and firefighters and 34 other city workers collect $100,000+ pensions, and all city retirees get free healthcare.”
Perhaps you should be aiming at the private companies who make trillions of pounds/dollars/whatever of profit and treat their employees as some kind of detritis to wipe off their shoes when they are done with them not public sector employers who treat their employees/ex-employees as valuable resources who have made a contribution to their employer. Or would you rather everybody who is no longer able to work is shot and thereby prevented from becoming a drain on your taxes?
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What a brilliant idea!!...no vote, no tax!!....I'll vote for that!!!!
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people who don't vote, don't deserve any taxation or social benefits(Vote Below)
It does not matter who or what you vote for, but vote you should. It is my contention that if you don't vote and take a responsible part in your community or country, then you should not expect any taxation or social community support!
What are your feelings about this?