Is OUR GREAT LEADER OBAMA SIR- TAKE OUT FROM RESSION USA ECONOMY (42)
He is not my leader!
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As much consternation and outright hate as I see for my President our economy and distribution system hasn't collapsed and we're not shedding anywhere near the hundreds of thousands of jobs we were when the President began his term JUST OVER A YEAR AGO.
Is there an actually reputable economist that makes a substantial case for not having done MOST of the stimulus and bailouts? Granted, there were some mistakes by the President and his predecessor but just what would you have done or not done? Am I mistaken in being dumbfounded by your consternation when the economy has come to grow just over a year into a new President's term after he inherited the worst financial crisis in most of our lifetimes?
Would you have preferred 2-3 times the unemployment we've had and for us too keep shedding jobs overseas, forever, at the colossal rate of the President's predecessor? Would you have preferred tens of millions of more people defaulting on their loans? Would you have preferred the global distribution system to collapse? Do you think an actual depression would have been good for the globe? Would you be happy if it were 1929 again?
With all due respect given the complete absence of an actual Republican alternative to handling the colossal crisis the President inherited and the absence of anyone worth their salt suggesting the President should have done nothing I've got to ask you folks do you really think you're being honest with your expectations? Could you articulate just what those expectations are so we could put the contempt many of you have for the President in any semblance of a context beyond biased if not partisan deceit?
Republicans have supposedly and suddenly found fiscal responsibility after 8 years of really bad math being done at the top when they were in power. The hate for President Obama goes way beyond policy and it is an embarrassment that many of my fellow citizens don't exercise ANY critical thinking and goose step behind the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity in whining about everything but offering not the slightest suggestion of alternative "solution."
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
Is there an actually reputable economist that makes a substantial case for not having done MOST of the stimulus and bailouts? Granted, there were some mistakes by the President and his predecessor but just what would you have done or not done? Am I mistaken in being dumbfounded by your consternation when the economy has come to grow just over a year into a new President's term after he inherited the worst financial crisis in most of our lifetimes?
Would you have preferred 2-3 times the unemployment we've had and for us too keep shedding jobs overseas, forever, at the colossal rate of the President's predecessor? Would you have preferred tens of millions of more people defaulting on their loans? Would you have preferred the global distribution system to collapse? Do you think an actual depression would have been good for the globe? Would you be happy if it were 1929 again?
With all due respect given the complete absence of an actual Republican alternative to handling the colossal crisis the President inherited and the absence of anyone worth their salt suggesting the President should have done nothing I've got to ask you folks do you really think you're being honest with your expectations? Could you articulate just what those expectations are so we could put the contempt many of you have for the President in any semblance of a context beyond biased if not partisan deceit?
Republicans have supposedly and suddenly found fiscal responsibility after 8 years of really bad math being done at the top when they were in power. The hate for President Obama goes way beyond policy and it is an embarrassment that many of my fellow citizens don't exercise ANY critical thinking and goose step behind the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity in whining about everything but offering not the slightest suggestion of alternative "solution."
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
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crucialone: He is not my leader!
He is NOT my leader either!
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Darn President Obama for having a problem with Alabamans taking more than twice as much from the Federal Treasury as they put in. LMFAO
He is your President, and unless you offer up alternative solutions of substance your detachment from reality is not becoming IMHO. I again encourage you to:
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
He is your President, and unless you offer up alternative solutions of substance your detachment from reality is not becoming IMHO. I again encourage you to:
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
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NOR DO I RECOGNISE HIM AS MY LEADER......WORD IS OUT HE CAN'T EVEN PACK HIS OWN LUNCH, THAT'S PRETTY SAD
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DoubleCabin: As much consternation and outright hate as I see for my President our economy and distribution system hasn't collapsed and we're not shedding anywhere near the hundreds of thousands of jobs we were when the President began his term JUST OVER A YEAR AGO.
I cannot understand why some Americans can't see this point above?
President Obama took over a quickly sinking ship and was on a no win situation and because of some thinking of his colour alone.
I tell you what, you could have been in a worse state than you are now if McCain and Palin got in!
Rome wasn't built in a day chaps....
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Steve5721: I cannot understand why some Americans can't see this point above?
President Obama took over a quickly sinking ship and was on a no win situation and because of some thinking of his colour alone.
I tell you what, you could have been in a worse state than you are now if McCain and Palin got in!
Rome wasn't built in a day chaps....
President Obama took over a quickly sinking ship and was on a no win situation and because of some thinking of his colour alone.
I tell you what, you could have been in a worse state than you are now if McCain and Palin got in!
Rome wasn't built in a day chaps....
got nothing to do with his color Steve...lack of experience........my vote went to an Afro-American Woman FYI, who had much more exp. in D.C.
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So does everyone in states that are an ultimate drag on our economy just want to show contempt for the President without displaying any substantive reason for it? LMFAO.
If you have a problem with the President is there any reason you can't share what the ACTUAL PROBLEM you have with him is? Think about that and think about the reality of my first post in this thread and think about the ignoramuses you folks are apparently listening to. Do you not understand that without interjecting even a molecule of critical thinking that we have no reason to view you as anything but self abosrbed bigots?
With all due repsect DO THE ACTUAL MATH FOLKS.
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
If you have a problem with the President is there any reason you can't share what the ACTUAL PROBLEM you have with him is? Think about that and think about the reality of my first post in this thread and think about the ignoramuses you folks are apparently listening to. Do you not understand that without interjecting even a molecule of critical thinking that we have no reason to view you as anything but self abosrbed bigots?
With all due repsect DO THE ACTUAL MATH FOLKS.
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
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deacon6347: got nothing to do with his color Steve...lack of experience........my vote went to an Afro-American Woman FYI, who had much more exp. in D.C.
But wasn't the direct choice between Obama and McCain Deacon?
I was in the USA during the elections and I heard many references to his colour, many saying that they would never vote for a 'ni**ger'..sad as it may be.
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I don't hate Obama because of the color of his skin I just don't trust politicans period.
I just hope for our sake that Obama does his best to keep his promises and gets on back on our feet.
I just hope for our sake that Obama does his best to keep his promises and gets on back on our feet.
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Steve5721: But wasn't the direct choice between Obama and McCain Deacon?
I was in the USA during the elections and I heard many references to his colour, many saying that they would never vote for a 'ni**ger'..sad as it may be.
I was in the USA during the elections and I heard many references to his colour, many saying that they would never vote for a 'ni**ger'..sad as it may be.
Yeah, sad but true Steve, kinda pissed me off too, because the best for the job got no recognition at all while young Obame was the product of a media blitz to get hime elected.
My personal feelings were that Congress, The House and Senate all wanted a weinie in the oval office so they could point fingers at him when things go south...and they are headed that way at an alarming rate regardless of what you read in the media or what that fella from Wyoming says on here
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NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ
EXCELLENT!!!!
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deacon6347: the past year has been filled with broken campaign promises, not his fault, the fault of in-fighting between the parties, but he has to have their co-operation and he'll never get it because they won't give it.
Yes, that is the sad difference between our two countries...we have a party in charge and what they say goes...i don't believe that is the same in your country?
The Labour Party are in charge right now, they make the rules and all that, the Conservative are in Opposition and they can argue and say it is wrong, but they cannot veto the Labour Government policies and plans.
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DoubleCabin: As much consternation and outright hate as I see for my President our economy and distribution system hasn't collapsed and we're not shedding anywhere near the hundreds of thousands of jobs we were when the President began his term JUST OVER A YEAR AGO.
Is there an actually reputable economist that makes a substantial case for not having done MOST of the stimulus and bailouts? Granted, there were some mistakes by the President and his predecessor but just what would you have done or not done? Am I mistaken in being dumbfounded by your consternation when the economy has come to grow just over a year into a new President's term after he inherited the worst financial crisis in most of our lifetimes?
Would you have preferred 2-3 times the unemployment we've had and for us too keep shedding jobs overseas, forever, at the colossal rate of the President's predecessor? Would you have preferred tens of millions of more people defaulting on their loans? Would you have preferred the global distribution system to collapse? Do you think an actual depression would have been good for the globe? Would you be happy if it were 1929 again?
With all due respect given the complete absence of an actual Republican alternative to handling the colossal crisis the President inherited and the absence of anyone worth their salt suggesting the President should have done nothing I've got to ask you folks do you really think you're being honest with your expectations? Could you articulate just what those expectations are so we could put the contempt many of you have for the President in any semblance of a context beyond biased if not partisan deceit?
Republicans have supposedly and suddenly found fiscal responsibility after 8 years of really bad math being done at the top when they were in power. The hate for President Obama goes way beyond policy and it is an embarrassment that many of my fellow citizens don't exercise ANY critical thinking and goose step behind the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity in whining about everything but offering not the slightest suggestion of alternative "solution."
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
Is there an actually reputable economist that makes a substantial case for not having done MOST of the stimulus and bailouts? Granted, there were some mistakes by the President and his predecessor but just what would you have done or not done? Am I mistaken in being dumbfounded by your consternation when the economy has come to grow just over a year into a new President's term after he inherited the worst financial crisis in most of our lifetimes?
Would you have preferred 2-3 times the unemployment we've had and for us too keep shedding jobs overseas, forever, at the colossal rate of the President's predecessor? Would you have preferred tens of millions of more people defaulting on their loans? Would you have preferred the global distribution system to collapse? Do you think an actual depression would have been good for the globe? Would you be happy if it were 1929 again?
With all due respect given the complete absence of an actual Republican alternative to handling the colossal crisis the President inherited and the absence of anyone worth their salt suggesting the President should have done nothing I've got to ask you folks do you really think you're being honest with your expectations? Could you articulate just what those expectations are so we could put the contempt many of you have for the President in any semblance of a context beyond biased if not partisan deceit?
Republicans have supposedly and suddenly found fiscal responsibility after 8 years of really bad math being done at the top when they were in power. The hate for President Obama goes way beyond policy and it is an embarrassment that many of my fellow citizens don't exercise ANY critical thinking and goose step behind the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity in whining about everything but offering not the slightest suggestion of alternative "solution."
"Think! Its very Patriotic."
Yes, think, things went down hill after congress became mostly democrats. One thing we can think obama for is that many Republicans will be elected next time around. The Republicans aren't great, just better than what we have now.
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I just know Obama is bad. Although I don't actually know why the people I listen to say he is.
Is anyone from the "right" going to interject any substance of any kind? You Think T.R., Ike, Barry Goldwater, or any real conservatives that weren't deceitfull hypocrites would serve up such unsubstantiated and vitriolic hatred for this President. Does a one of you people read any George Will or William F. Buckley, JR. ? Or is it all Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity? Do you read any of the many conservatives that actually employ critical thinking before getting caught up in deceitful, partisan rhetoric?
And you think with a growing economy and adding Jobs Democrats are going to lose big next fall? Again, who in hades are you listening too?
Is anyone from the "right" going to interject any substance of any kind? You Think T.R., Ike, Barry Goldwater, or any real conservatives that weren't deceitfull hypocrites would serve up such unsubstantiated and vitriolic hatred for this President. Does a one of you people read any George Will or William F. Buckley, JR. ? Or is it all Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity? Do you read any of the many conservatives that actually employ critical thinking before getting caught up in deceitful, partisan rhetoric?
And you think with a growing economy and adding Jobs Democrats are going to lose big next fall? Again, who in hades are you listening too?
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DoubleCabin: I just know Obama is bad. Although I don't actually know why the people I listen to say he is.
Is anyone from the "right" going to interject any substance of any kind? You Think T.R., Ike, Barry Goldwater, or any real conservatives that weren't deceitfull hypocrites would serve up such unsubstantiated and vitriolic hatred for this President. Does a one of you people read any George Will or William F. Buckley, JR. ? Or is it all Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity? Do you read any of the many conservatives that actually employ critical thinking before getting caught up in deceitful, partisan rhetoric?
And you think with a growing economy and adding Jobs Democrats are going to lose big next fall? Again, who in hades are you listening too?
Is anyone from the "right" going to interject any substance of any kind? You Think T.R., Ike, Barry Goldwater, or any real conservatives that weren't deceitfull hypocrites would serve up such unsubstantiated and vitriolic hatred for this President. Does a one of you people read any George Will or William F. Buckley, JR. ? Or is it all Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity? Do you read any of the many conservatives that actually employ critical thinking before getting caught up in deceitful, partisan rhetoric?
And you think with a growing economy and adding Jobs Democrats are going to lose big next fall? Again, who in hades are you listening too?
WHAT GROWING ECONOMY
AND PLEASE TELL ME WHERE? I HAVE FRIENDS WHO USED TO BE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS WHO CAN'T FEED THEIR FAMILIES ANYMORE OWING TO FACTORY CLOSINGS, SOME ARE DRIVING MANY MILES TO OTHER PLANTS TO KEEP WORKING AND SEEING THEIR FAMILIES ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS. THIS IS PROGRESS?? IF YOU BELIEVE THIS YOU ARE A FOOL!!------ This poll is Archived ------
As far as i am concerned i have no leader or president!!!!!!!!!
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With all due respect would any one of you folks that hate this President ever want to introduce any contradictory forensic substance to what I've posted, or do you all want to be poster children for the failures of education in your communities? Are any of you willing to look up "rebuttal" in the dictionary?
If you don't understand or are unwilling to admit the Economy did NOT contract last quarter then you simply don't want to genuinely engage in any REAL discussion. Just a friendly reminder that when Bush 43's Administration dropped debate in favor of attempted character assasination that was the begining of the end for that Administration's capacity for the substantive domestic changes they wanted to make.
Rational Americans know virtually every reputable economist backs most of this Presidents actions in his first year in offcie than don't. Rational Americans know we are now creating jobs as opposed to shedding hundreds of thousands a month like President Bush 43 did for 2 years before this President took over and interjected far greater fiscal responsibility than any Republican President has in many of the posters' here lifetimes. Rational Americans know if you don't like someones skin color however much you deny it its hard to conceal when all you interject into any conversation is irrelevant and unsubstantiated if not entierly libelous assertion.
Did any one of you partisan hacks ever complain at all when the previous President issued more than 200 of his Administration's nearly 1,000 DOCUMENTED FALSE STATEMENTS in making that Administration's "case" for the unprecedented invasion of a Sovreign Nation that never attacked us and never used WMDS without the tacit approval of a REPUBLICAN US President?
I'm hoping some of your children are taught what a plausible premise is let alone a viable syllogism is given some of you apparently have no idea of the basic precepts of logic and debate. Perhaps then they will be able to embrace rationality and...
"Think! Its very Patriotic!"
If you don't understand or are unwilling to admit the Economy did NOT contract last quarter then you simply don't want to genuinely engage in any REAL discussion. Just a friendly reminder that when Bush 43's Administration dropped debate in favor of attempted character assasination that was the begining of the end for that Administration's capacity for the substantive domestic changes they wanted to make.
Rational Americans know virtually every reputable economist backs most of this Presidents actions in his first year in offcie than don't. Rational Americans know we are now creating jobs as opposed to shedding hundreds of thousands a month like President Bush 43 did for 2 years before this President took over and interjected far greater fiscal responsibility than any Republican President has in many of the posters' here lifetimes. Rational Americans know if you don't like someones skin color however much you deny it its hard to conceal when all you interject into any conversation is irrelevant and unsubstantiated if not entierly libelous assertion.
Did any one of you partisan hacks ever complain at all when the previous President issued more than 200 of his Administration's nearly 1,000 DOCUMENTED FALSE STATEMENTS in making that Administration's "case" for the unprecedented invasion of a Sovreign Nation that never attacked us and never used WMDS without the tacit approval of a REPUBLICAN US President?
I'm hoping some of your children are taught what a plausible premise is let alone a viable syllogism is given some of you apparently have no idea of the basic precepts of logic and debate. Perhaps then they will be able to embrace rationality and...
"Think! Its very Patriotic!"
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Budgets do not get approved by the White House. They are passed only by CONGRESS and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party. They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases. For FY 2009, though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for those budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for those budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th
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Impact: Budgets do not get approved by the White House. They are passed only by CONGRESS and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party. They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases. For FY 2009, though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for those budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for those budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th
Good post!
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Where are these supposed new jobs??? I see a lot of people being layed off and there are a lot of college graduates who are unable to find employment.
Obamanites make me wanna puke!!!!!!!!!!
Obamanites make me wanna puke!!!!!!!!!!
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I am not from the US but as an outsider looking in I can't see why you are all blaming Obama for the mess?
He is only in power a year. Did you really think that in one year he would have the country back on its feet? Are you that nieve really? Did you expect him to pull out a magic wand and fix everything overnight?
It was the Bush administration that left the country in the state it is in, was it not? GW took over a country very healty in economical terms from Clinton. In 8 years he turned that into the worst recession in 80 years! And thats the country he gave to Obama. If Bush had 8 years to make the mess do you really expect anyone could sort it out in one year?!
He is only in power a year. Did you really think that in one year he would have the country back on its feet? Are you that nieve really? Did you expect him to pull out a magic wand and fix everything overnight?
It was the Bush administration that left the country in the state it is in, was it not? GW took over a country very healty in economical terms from Clinton. In 8 years he turned that into the worst recession in 80 years! And thats the country he gave to Obama. If Bush had 8 years to make the mess do you really expect anyone could sort it out in one year?!
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crucialone: I am not from the US but as an outsider looking in I can't see why you are all blaming Obama for the mess?
He is only in power a year. Did you really think that in one year he would have the country back on its feet? Are you that nieve really? Did you expect him to pull out a magic wand and fix everything overnight?
It was the Bush administration that left the country in the state it is in, was it not? GW took over a country very healty in economical terms from Clinton. In 8 years he turned that into the worst recession in 80 years! And thats the country he gave to Obama. If Bush had 8 years to make the mess do you really expect anyone could sort it out in one year?!
But you sure have a Lot to say!He is only in power a year. Did you really think that in one year he would have the country back on its feet? Are you that nieve really? Did you expect him to pull out a magic wand and fix everything overnight?
It was the Bush administration that left the country in the state it is in, was it not? GW took over a country very healty in economical terms from Clinton. In 8 years he turned that into the worst recession in 80 years! And thats the country he gave to Obama. If Bush had 8 years to make the mess do you really expect anyone could sort it out in one year?!
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Steve5721: I cannot understand why some Americans can't see this point above?
President Obama took over a quickly sinking ship and was on a no win situation and because of some thinking of his colour alone.
I tell you what, you could have been in a worse state than you are now if McCain and Palin got in!
Rome wasn't built in a day chaps....
President Obama took over a quickly sinking ship and was on a no win situation and because of some thinking of his colour alone.
I tell you what, you could have been in a worse state than you are now if McCain and Palin got in!
Rome wasn't built in a day chaps....
We are not building Rome or the Roman empire here.
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Impact: No, but it might "burn" in a day, if obama gets his way.
wonder if he'd be playing the Fiddle while watching it burn? 
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God saves and Obama is not god no matter how much some would like to think so. "Oh fall to thy knees and take my hand as my name is Obama and i will save you from your troubles and grant you happiness"
Only fools fall for false idols.
Only fools fall for false idols.
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First of all, some of us consevatives were critical of the progressive republicans for their irresponsible spending, but many of the the dems were on board as well. Ben Bernanke the Fed chair stated in July 2006 that any financial crisis would be restricted to sub-prime mortgages and the total exposure would be no more than $50B. Obama apparently rewards incompetance as he gave Bernanke a second term. At the same time, currebt Treas. Secretary Timothy Geithner was head of the New York Fed, which is supposed to be the chief watch dog of all large bank practices. Who appointed him?
And the Healthcare Raform Act? Since the insurance companies have been made the villians and the bill to be voted on Sunday essentially eliminates private insurance by 2020, who is going to employ the 3.7 million people currently employed by the health insurance industry?
History clearly shows that the process currently being employed by Obama to supposedly stem the current recession will indeed prolong and deepen it. Increasing government does not creat jobs, but rather reduces money available for business to invest in plant and equipment and hire workers.
Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive, not a conservative as is evidenced by his "Progressive Bull Moose" party in 1912.
And the Healthcare Raform Act? Since the insurance companies have been made the villians and the bill to be voted on Sunday essentially eliminates private insurance by 2020, who is going to employ the 3.7 million people currently employed by the health insurance industry?
History clearly shows that the process currently being employed by Obama to supposedly stem the current recession will indeed prolong and deepen it. Increasing government does not creat jobs, but rather reduces money available for business to invest in plant and equipment and hire workers.
Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive, not a conservative as is evidenced by his "Progressive Bull Moose" party in 1912.
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