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Dec 7, 2010 3:33 PM CSTDecember 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California, USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts

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After Hitler was given Chancellorship by Hindenburg he tried to take over the world....starting w/ Germany and then over to Poland. Their buddies(funny since they had Aryan BS ideas) in Japan were tearing up China and decided to do something that turned out to be one very dumb thing...........

Pearl Harbor.

In time the US ended up having to get into the war and fight both alongside Allies.

We(all nations involved) lose many veteran every year....not only to war, but to time. Our WWII vets still deserve MUCH respoect and honor.


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Dec 7, 2010 3:39 PM CST December 7, 1941
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
thumbs up cheers
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Dec 7, 2010 3:40 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
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Dec 7, 2010 3:43 PM CST December 7, 1941
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
TrueBlue1986: Absolutely, and the freedom of speech they fought for deserves respect too.
to be honest trueblue, not the time or place...just sayinghandshake
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Dec 7, 2010 3:45 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
Not a place to arguehandshake

BUT

If you have stories from your dad/grandpa/great grandpa or others then please share w/ us.
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Dec 7, 2010 3:45 PM CST December 7, 1941
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
NCC1968: Not a place to argue

BUT

If you have stories from your dad/grandpa/great grandpa or others then please share w/ us.
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Dec 7, 2010 3:47 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
My friends dad flew P-38's over Europe and had films. He had them put to video tape in the 1980's and we all gathered around a new-at-the-time bigscreen TV at a local store and watched them.....awesome!
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Dec 7, 2010 3:52 PM CST December 7, 1941
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
JSuburbia: to be honest trueblue, not the time or place...just saying


Maybe their legacy will make you think, words are not needed though you're right there.
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Dec 7, 2010 3:59 PM CST December 7, 1941
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Just read a article on some of the remaining Pearl Harbor Military survivors.....of those that a survived the USS Arizona bombing.....1177 of the Arizona's 1400 crew were killed on the 6th. Today of those survived, only about 20 are still alive.

tip hat to those that were there that day. Past on the way to today. And to those are here yet today.
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Dec 7, 2010 4:03 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
ttom500: ....of those that a survived the USS Arizona bombing.....1177 of the Arizona's 1400 crew were killed on the 6th. Today of those survived, only about 20 are still alive.
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The Arizona has become the symbol of the day, but we have to remember everyone through the years of fighting that followed.



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Dec 7, 2010 4:05 PM CST December 7, 1941


Pearl Harbor-USS Arizona Memorial sad flower
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Dec 7, 2010 4:34 PM CST December 7, 1941
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Great post Conrad73

I can not thank these men and women enough for their sacrifices. I grew up during the Vietnam War and I became a draft dodger. I reget that decision soooo much now.

I am now as Patriotic as they come. We were not as brave as these Patriots during the Vietnam era.


Pearl Harbor Day Attack

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Dec 7, 2010 4:40 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
NordicSkier: I can understand remembering Pearl Harbor and the WWII vets of my father's generation...but what about the ONE remaining USA World War I veteran? Why not honor him, too? Where's the national WW I memorial??? Why was Armistice Day .



I do indeed honor him....just that TODAY is Dec 7th

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Dec 7, 2010 4:43 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
johnaustin123: .... during the Vietnam War and I became a draft dodger. I reget that decision soooo much now.

I am now as Patriotic as they come. We were not as brave as these Patriots during the Vietnam era.



Your big enough to say that - thanks.......war makes people think and make tough decisions - that we may or may not regret later.

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Dec 7, 2010 4:55 PM CST December 7, 1941
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Russia is the Nation that celebrates World War I Armistice Day believe it or not. Agreed; Why do we not honor our World War I Veterans as much in the USA?
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Dec 7, 2010 5:01 PM CST December 7, 1941
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
My father fought in the North Atlantic as a Royal Naval Officer. I was in the Royal Air Force and involved in later Theaters. I would like to extend this to all people who have given their lives for their countries.
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Dec 7, 2010 5:05 PM CST December 7, 1941
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
I find most people i speak to from this era refuse to speak of the events they were involved, which speaks to the severe circumstaces and tragedy they faced.
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Dec 7, 2010 5:07 PM CST December 7, 1941
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
Probably for the same reasons we do not honor civil war veterens. Because no one is really left alive from that era. As sad as it is I'm sure in time we will slowly stop honoring the triumphs of WWII
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Dec 7, 2010 5:09 PM CST December 7, 1941
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
g1ants1980: Probably for the same reasons we do not honor civil war veterens. Because no one is really left alive from that era. As sad as it is I'm sure in time we will slowly stop honoring the triumphs of WWII


Not in the UK I don't think
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Dec 7, 2010 5:10 PM CST December 7, 1941
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
g1ants1980: Probably for the same reasons we do not honor civil war veterens. Because no one is really left alive from that era. As sad as it is I'm sure in time we will slowly stop honoring the triumphs of WWII


But not just yet handshake
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Dec 7, 2010 5:11 PM CST December 7, 1941
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
tomcatwarne: Not in the UK I don't think


I really hope not as this was was more significant than previous conflicts.
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Dec 7, 2010 5:19 PM CST December 7, 1941
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Back in the Vietnam Era, there was a draft lottery. My number was (26) but my best friend’s was #2.

Tom didn't know what to do. He graduated #2 in our High School class and was in his first year at Ohio State University.

Tom said "I'm going to cut off my big toe". I'm glad that Tom didn't because the Vietnam War and the draft ended shortly after.

Tom is now an airline pilot for Mexican Airlines. He would have never had the opportunity to get that job if he would have followed through.
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Dec 7, 2010 5:19 PM CST December 7, 1941
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941, stunned virtually everyone in the United States military. Japan’s carrier-launched bombers found Pearl Harbor totally unprepared. President Franklin Roosevelt quickly addressed Congress to ask for a declaration of war as illustrated in this audio excerpt. Although he never mentioned Europe or the fact that Germany had by then declared war on the United States, the Pearl Harbor attack allowed him to begin the larger intervention in the European war he had long wanted.
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Dec 7, 2010 5:41 PM CST December 7, 1941
Yash124g
Yash124gYash124gEdinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK9 Threads 1 Polls 1,237 Posts
They will not be forgotten.. sad flower sad flower

Two videos, the first, Dying Capital Ships showing ships from WWI & II, the second, the unveiling of a memorial to the Scottish Merchant Navy in Leith, Edinburgh by HRH Princess Anne as she is Patron of the Merchant Navy Memorial Trust.. (not sure why the video is repeated?)..



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Dec 7, 2010 7:59 PM CST December 7, 1941
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
for america sad flower
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Dec 7, 2010 8:08 PM CST December 7, 1941
ReaderOfSouls
ReaderOfSoulsReaderOfSoulsunknown, Texas USA193 Posts
*crisp salute* I honor my grandfather who fought in the Pacific Theater in WWII. My grandmother's cousin went down on the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor. In the late 70's, she got to pay her final respects to him while on a visit there. My grandfather is in his 90's now and still rarely speaks of his experiences.
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Dec 7, 2010 8:14 PM CST December 7, 1941
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
johnaustin123: Back in the Vietnam Era, there was a draft lottery. My number was (26) but my best friend’s was #2.

Tom didn't know what to do. He graduated #2 in our High School class and was in his first year at Ohio State University.

Tom said "I'm going to cut off my big toe". I'm glad that Tom didn't because the Vietnam War and the draft ended shortly after.

Tom is now an airline pilot for Mexican Airlines. He would have never had the opportunity to get that job if he would have followed through.


I will share a different Vet Nam story with you. In High School, one of my friends....on the same football team.....was drafted.....and he was sent to Vet Nam late in the war. His name is on the Wall, he was the 13th name to the last man to die there.

He had been given his orders for home....and was waiting for transport, When he was killed. Had his transport plane arrives only a day earlier.....he would not have died.

They have added others to the wall since then. As remains have been found and identified. But he was to be unlucky number 13 on the Wall of 56,000.
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Dec 7, 2010 8:36 PM CST December 7, 1941
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
ttom500 Good post.

I had a friend that was older than me in High School. His name was Ron. He was a big guy...wrestled for his sport.

He was not drafted, he volunteered for the Marines. He was such a good fighter that they sent him straight to the front lines.

Ron had a talent for using a Bayonet. He survived and he came home to Ohio. He was a mess. Ron was a very religious person.

HE HAD 27 BAYONET KILL’S IN VIETNAM.

(6) Months after he got back, Ron committed suicide. He just couldn't handle what he experienced.
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Dec 8, 2010 9:25 AM CST December 7, 1941
NordicSkier
NordicSkierNordicSkierChicago, Illinois USA54 Posts
g1ants1980: I find most people i speak to from this era refuse to speak of the events they were involved, which speaks to the severe circumstaces and tragedy they faced.


I would have to agree with you on this point (regarding WW I) based upon personal observations in France and discussions that I had with several elderly Frenchmen about ten years ago.

When I cycled around northern France and passed through villages, no matter what the size, I always would see a memorial (usually an obelisk or tablet) that inscribed the names of the war dead from both WWI and WWII. The number of dead from WWI was endless...always 5-10 times greater than WWII...the largest memorial I saw was near the train station at Versailles. The WWI dead occupied an entire panel on one side (the long side L-shaped) while the WWII, Indochina and Algerian war dead were on the other shorter side.

From time to time, in my miserable French, I asked a few elderly men what they thought of all this. These men had been in WWII and were too young to have been in WWI, but some were young boys at that time whose fathers served, and some were killed. They didn't really want to talk about it.

Considering what they endured as a country, and the losses that they sustained, it was easy to understand why.

Thumbs up to the American Battlefields Monuments Commission, as well as the French authorities, for keeping our US military cemetery there in the Argonne in impeccable shape. It is the largest US military cemetery in Europe. Requiescat in pace.
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Dec 8, 2010 5:48 PM CST December 7, 1941
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Arlington Cemetary Changing of the Guard

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Dec 14, 2010 10:40 PM CST December 7, 1941
annie_nsw
annie_nswannie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 528 Posts
g1ants1980: Probably for the same reasons we do not honor civil war veterens. Because no one is really left alive from that era. As sad as it is I'm sure in time we will slowly stop honoring the triumphs of WWII


Hi glants,
A part of me remembers life during the American Civil War and those that gave up their young lives during that war in which sadly 558052 soldiers died which is probabley why I am such a peaceful person and have always been against war as a resolve.
No man should need die for his country and maybe one day we as a human race will respect truely the 2 million + soldiers that have died world wide.. May They Rest In Peace..
sad flower sad flower sad flower
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