who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN (431)

May 7, 2011 6:34 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: Funny that Jacque Fresco and Peter Joseph figure prominently at the Top of both!


Peter Joseph started the Zeitgeist Movement and Jacque Fresco started the Venus Project. What is so wrong with that...it's not a secret.
May 7, 2011 6:35 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68: The rebuttal ...classic Hasbara/Jackalite tactic.

Conrad I am not paid to do this
Welcome back,Silverbirch!rolling on the floor laughing
May 7, 2011 6:38 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: Hope you haven't signed over your Retirement-Plan over to either!


Don't need one I am a Socialist and anyway I live in The European Union where they look after the oldies.
May 7, 2011 6:39 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: Welcome back,Silverbirch!


Must have a doppelgänger.... wink
May 7, 2011 6:39 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68: Don't need one I am a Socialist and anyway I live in The European Union where they look after the oldies.
Keep on dreaming,Sunshine!
May 7, 2011 6:48 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: Keep on dreaming,Sunshine!




angel angel angel angel angel angel angel angel
May 7, 2011 7:04 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Um......just maybe to shed some recent intelligence on the question if it was a bin Laden or Bush 911.

On the computer of bin Ladens, they found a sister plot of 911 to strike US Trains on Sept. 11, 2010. Pretty sure that GWB had not been in Abbottabad, Pakistan to consult with bin Laden on such a
attack.

So if 911 was is not bin Ladens.....why is he planning sister attacks on anniversaries of 911?
May 7, 2011 5:10 PM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: Must be a powerful Ring you got there!
You know all that,and walk around a free man?


Your point then must be that we believe nothing we read and that must then apply to yourself. So no more links just a good educated guessing game and leave it at that. Each to their own view and let those in the wings make up their own minds. Let the best man win level playing field and all that.
May 7, 2011 5:18 PM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
mustbnutz
mustbnutzmustbnutzKingman, Arizona USA33 Threads 5 Polls 3,730 Posts
"learn to study the facts more instead of believing what they are told by news reporter that are just puppets for the american government"


OK Op.......since you are so well informed...just what are these facts that you are running on about?
May 8, 2011 12:19 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Conrad73: You,of course being an Expert Metallurgist as well!
You getting ridiculous,Mister!
Are you another one telling me that Thermite works best on Vertical Surfaces?laugh
May 8, 2011 12:28 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68: Your point then must be that we believe nothing we read and that must then apply to yourself. So no more links just a good educated guessing game and leave it at that. Each to their own view and let those in the wings make up their own minds. Let the best man win level playing field and all that.
You pretty confused,aren't you?laugh
May 8, 2011 12:45 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
Conrad73: You pretty confused,aren't you?
2 words perhaps - tin hats conversing
tinfoil hat tinfoil hat
May 8, 2011 12:57 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
SCatlyn: 2 words perhaps - tin hats
Make sure reason never hits their Brains!laugh
May 8, 2011 1:01 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Mystyr
MystyrMystyrSpringfield, Missouri USA14 Threads 1 Polls 496 Posts
Albertaghost: I asked a question as you suggested that "in the history of building demolition and building fires this occurs where its never happened "EVER" before "

So, please answer my question which was;

"How many hundred plus story skyscrapers have been hit by airliners full of thousands of gallons of jet full that burned for over an hour in this study of yours?"


first of all..."ALL" the fuel was expended on impact..on both buildings

secondly, those buildings were built with inner core columns, which means if the building were to collapse they would pancake floor upon floor. not eject core columns rolling on the floor laughing

jet fuel,diesel fuel,gasoline,lacquer thinner, melting plastic,melting rubber,burning carpet, melting aluminum...ETC cannot weaken massive steel girders..ain't gonna happen

heres the question you need to ask yourself....how do you pulverize concrete into fine dust particle so that there is not one chunk of concrete remaining?

3 buildings fell withing all 3 of their footprints hours within each other.....whats the odds? and one never got hit by a plane wink
May 8, 2011 1:05 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Mystyr
MystyrMystyrSpringfield, Missouri USA14 Threads 1 Polls 496 Posts
Albertaghost: I asked a question as you suggested that "in the history of building demolition and building fires this occurs where its never happened "EVER" before "

So, please answer my question which was;

"How many hundred plus story skyscrapers have been hit by airliners full of thousands of gallons of jet full that burned for over an hour in this study of yours?"


doesn't matter, its physically impossible due to the engineering of the buildings and the physics of the materials
May 8, 2011 1:09 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Mystyr: first of all..."ALL" the fuel was expended on impact..on both buildings

secondly, those buildings were built with inner core columns, which means if the building were to collapse they would pancake floor upon floor. not eject core columns

jet fuel,diesel fuel,gasoline,lacquer thinner, melting plastic,melting rubber,burning carpet, melting aluminum...ETC cannot weaken massive steel girders..ain't gonna happen

heres the question you need to ask yourself....how do you pulverize concrete into fine dust particle so that there is not one chunk of concrete remaining?

3 buildings fell withing all 3 of their footprints hours within each other.....whats the odds? and one never got hit by a plane


@Mystyr You may be wasting your time but at least you are doing it away from the maddening crowd. Wish you well for the future.wine cheers handshake
May 8, 2011 1:12 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Mystyr: first of all..."ALL" the fuel was expended on impact..on both buildings

secondly, those buildings were built with inner core columns, which means if the building were to collapse they would pancake floor upon floor. not eject core columns

jet fuel,diesel fuel,gasoline,lacquer thinner, melting plastic,melting rubber,burning carpet, melting aluminum...ETC cannot weaken massive steel girders..ain't gonna happen

heres the question you need to ask yourself....how do you pulverize concrete into fine dust particle so that there is not one chunk of concrete remaining?

3 buildings fell withing all 3 of their footprints hours within each other.....whats the odds? and one never got hit by a plane
Son,you ain't seen nothing yet!laugh Mix Fuel,Alu,Magnesium,Zinc and Heat,and anything is possible!
Since the Fuel was expended Outside,what was burning Inside,Smart Fellow?laugh
May 8, 2011 1:12 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Conrad73: Make sure reason never hits their Brains!


Can't let logic spoil a good story.laugh
May 8, 2011 1:13 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Mystyr: first of all..."ALL" the fuel was expended on impact..on both buildings


Strange. People on the ground never stated they were hit with hundreds of thousands of pounds of jet fuel.

Mystyr: secondly, those buildings were built with inner core columns, which means if the building were to collapse they would pancake floor upon floor. not eject core columns

jet fuel,diesel fuel,gasoline,lacquer thinner, melting plastic,melting rubber,burning carpet, melting aluminum...ETC cannot weaken massive steel girders..ain't gonna happen


Get into that in a few minutes. Please show us the examples of buildings that were a hundred stories high or more and were hit with aircraft carrying hundreds of thousands of pounds of jet fuel please.

Mystyr: heres the question you need to ask yourself....how do you pulverize concrete into fine dust particle so that there is not one chunk of concrete remaining?


Well you seem rather well versed and stated you had some examples to provide so please provide them prior to going further.

Mystyr: 3 buildings fell withing all 3 of their footprints hours within each other.....whats the odds? and one never got hit by a plane


I asked a question as you suggested that "in the history of building demolition and building fires this occurs where its never happened "EVER" before "

So, please answer my question which was;

"How many hundred plus story skyscrapers have been hit by airliners full of thousands of gallons of jet full that burned for over an hour in this study of yours?"


Golly, please show us the examples of where buildings have been hit by aircraft and let us make a determination for crying out loud.
May 8, 2011 1:13 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
optomistic68: @Mystyr You may be wasting your time but at least you are doing it away from the maddening crowd. Wish you well for the future.



Awwww....nutter love. laugh
May 8, 2011 1:16 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
Blues63: Awwww....nutter love.
Aww... how cute! (Never thought of it that way rose in teeth )
May 8, 2011 1:21 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Mystyr
MystyrMystyrSpringfield, Missouri USA14 Threads 1 Polls 496 Posts
Conrad73: Son,you ain't seen nothing yet! Mix Fuel,Alu,Magnesium,Zinc and Heat,and anything is possible!
Since the Fuel was expended Outside,what was burning Inside,Smart Fellow?


ask the fire fighters that said the fires were out and that were on the floors that explosives were going off prior to the building coming down...or maybe they're all liars and don't know what they're talking about because they have never fought hi-rise building fires for the last 20 years rolling on the floor laughing
May 8, 2011 1:26 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Mystyr: ask the fire fighters that said the fires were out and that were on the floors that explosives were going off prior to the building coming down...or maybe they're all liars and don't know what they're talking about because they have never fought hi-rise building fires for the last 20 years


I did. They said they never heard explosions but rather sounds that were like explosions. A way of describing what they heard when millions of tons of concrete,steel office furniture and building begi8n to lose structural integrity and snap and break. Sort of like when a tire blows, it sounds like an explosion..

In your extensive interviews with them what did they say to you? could they identify what type of explosions they were and what mode of detonation was in play at the time?
May 8, 2011 1:28 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Mystyr: it doesn't matter what examples anyone could provide to you because you're a know it all that believes everything the gooberment spoon feeds you ....FACT


First you would have to have an example. You professed you did but do not so are a liar who now hopes to evade this fact by blaming me in advance for something I have yet to do because you don't have the goods you said you did.rolling on the floor laughing

So now that you have been caught lying about this we are now supposed to believe you on other things?
May 8, 2011 1:34 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Decoder34
Decoder34Decoder34Panajachel, Solola Guatemala9 Posts
Ask the the entire crew USS Liberty (survivors, anyway) why they kept their mouths shut for decades. "They said they would put us in prison and/or kill our wives and children." Very effective.
May 8, 2011 1:44 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Decoder34
Decoder34Decoder34Panajachel, Solola Guatemala9 Posts
It is all in the public domain - I have no access to classified material. Of course, one has to turn of the TV (Merdoch-Faux and GenElec-MSNBC) and read the declassified / FOIA-released documents, the CFR members own essays, former CIA/NSC members confessions, and other "dry" material. That "reading-work" should keep it a secret from 99.5% of Americans forever.
May 8, 2011 1:45 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SCatlyn: And if you need to clean off from the collateral off that fair share... and then get warmed up after all that disinfectant & hosing off...
(go to your nearest very northern location)


I feel so dirty. How about you?rolling on the floor laughing
May 8, 2011 1:54 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Chapel
ChapelChapelWakefield, West Yorkshire, England UK3 Posts
Oh come on, if the US was responsible for blowing up the twin towers then thousands of people would have had to have known have you ever met two americans who can keep a secret! with out going to the press.

Did you not see two planes fly into the towers, did you not hear of the other hijackings at the same time. It seems there will always be people who just can not accept the truth, cant beleive the evidence of their own eyes and every thing has to be a conspiracy with some deep dark purpose.
May 8, 2011 2:00 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Decoder34
Decoder34Decoder34Panajachel, Solola Guatemala9 Posts
The twilight zone is what the TV gives you.

Radar data on the plane - fact.

Purported pilot couldn't control a Sessna - fact according to his instructor.

USA has largest per capita prison population in history - fact.

Conclusions? I can only speculate as to what did impact the Pentagon (note the word "probably").

Not even the Stazi put their hands under peoples clothes and touching things I won't mention - search youtube and you can see the gory details - if you can stomach it. Old people and little children - its disgusting.

But you have a point - I should have said "worse in some ways than the East German Stazi."

Bear in mind, no "real" terrorist would try to light high-explosive with a lighter. But if the plane with the 'underwear bomber' had blown up, we wouldn't have the story for Michael Chertoff to tell on the news networks in the following days - as he sells naked-scanners for the company he consults for (post homeland security gig - revolving door to industry) to get that bonus $$.
May 8, 2011 2:02 AM CST who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN
Mystyr
MystyrMystyrSpringfield, Missouri USA14 Threads 1 Polls 496 Posts
Albertaghost: First you would have to have an example. You professed you did but do not so are a liar who now hopes to evade this fact by blaming me in advance for something I have yet to do because you don't have the goods you said you did.

So now that you have been caught lying about this we are now supposed to believe you on other things?


oh now i'm a lair? because i'm not willing to get caught up into your endless cycle of "prove it" crap, that you will only bypass known legit fact to perpetuate your troll status rolling on the floor laughing

sorry been there done that beer



dont watch this, it might hurt your feelings wink

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