jvaski: One could speculate that the 911 attacks were carried out because of the arrogance of Bush ......... So, in effect He possibly actually caused the worst attack ever endured by America ...........
Albertaghost: Only a moron would speculate that as the plans were in place (and, the funds and people) well prior to the end of 1998.
Know any morons that speculate idiocy like that javski?
It doesn't answer why the subway attack in Japan happened long before 9/11, either. And neither Bush president was in office when the truck bomb went off in Feb.1993 at the Twin Towers- Clinton was.
Albertaghost: Precisely. Contrary to how the left was saying the war in Afghanistan and Iraq had made them stronger Bush's actions had reduced them to actions such as that.
However, as we have seen with the group of people caught trying to use liquid flammables, these low intensity attacks can still be deadly.
Yep... that's why the thought of an "underwear" bomber may sound humorous, but absolutely is not.
Albertaghost: Precisely. Contrary to how the left was saying the war in Afghanistan and Iraq had made them stronger Bush's actions had reduced them to actions such as that.
However, as we have seen with the group of people caught trying to use liquid flammables, these low intensity attacks can still be deadly.
You have got to be kidding The Shrub did America a favour all right, he showed the world how mad the country had become and the world reacted. Bush gave America the worst name it has ever had since its foundation. He was a Joke all round the world.....
optomistic68: You have got to be kidding The Shrub did America a favour all right, he showed the world how mad the country had become and the world reacted. Bush gave America the worst name it has ever had since its foundation. He was a Joke all round the world.....
Doesn't mean the world was correct... and currently, a lot of the world doesn't seem to agree with Obama's views on the shooting or burial, etc., etc., etc. of OB.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
optomistic68: You have got to be kidding The Shrub did America a favour all right, he showed the world how mad the country had become and the world reacted. Bush gave America the worst name it has ever had since its foundation. He was a Joke all round the world.....
He freed more people than any other leader in history all while carrying out legal actions to oust oppressive regimes that actually saved over three hundred thousand lives to date and counting at the rate of thirty thousand a month (the rate Saddam killed his own people in day to day administering of his gulag nation).
You don't like freedom? Don't like people's lives being saved?
Albertaghost: He freed more people than any other leader in history all while carrying out legal actions to oust oppressive regimes that actually saved over three hundred thousand lives to date and counting at the rate of thirty thousand a month (the rate Saddam killed his own people in day to day administering of his gulag nation).
You don't like freedom? Don't like people's lives being saved?
Thought this should be highlighted so it wouldn't be missed
Albertaghost: He freed more people than any other leader in history all while carrying out legal actions to oust oppressive regimes that actually saved over three hundred thousand lives to date and counting at the rate of thirty thousand a month (the rate Saddam killed his own people in day to day administering of his gulag nation).
You don't like freedom? Don't like people's lives being saved?
Let it Go..you have a sane and intelligent man at the wheel now. America is getting its good name back again. The game is up. Power to the people.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
SCatlyn: Thought this should be highlighted so it wouldn't be missed
Why thank you. Those figures can be supported by Amnesty and historical facts from his various conflicts such as the Iran/Iraq war.
Oh, Cat, did I mention that Bush freed over fifty million pep[ple, more than any other leader in history? Heck, one day people of the world will have a freedom day and they will call it 'Bushmas.'
From the four corners of the globe, people thankful for their freedom, will come to Mount Rushmore to kneel before his face and sing 'Bushmas Carols.'
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
optomistic68: Let it Go..you have a sane and intelligent man at the wheel now. America is getting its good name back again. The game is up. Power to the people.
I can see. Taking the troops out of Iraq as Bush had planned and laid the groundwork for but then, putting them in Afghanistan and invading Pakistan and Libya is such a cool move.
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Albertaghost:
Obama has four wars on his hands right now.
Morning Ghost
Surely the world has four wars on it's hands or at least those involved in them.Not everything is down Obama,who is after all a figurehead elected legally.j.m.o.
Albertaghost: I can see. Taking the troops out of Iraq as Bush had planned and laid the groundwork for but then, putting them in Afghanistan and invading Pakistan and Libya is such a cool move.
Obama has four wars on his hands right now.
One more time....Bush was a joke around the entire world...Americas name was in the gutter hence all the American Bashing. That was all down to bush. USA is now getting its good name bab and people like you are trying to drag it back down to the gutter again...wake up man....
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
bestbefore: Morning Ghost
Surely the world has four wars on it's hands or at least those involved in them.Not everything is down Obama,who is after all a figurehead elected legally.j.m.o.
Hi BB!
I personally think Obama is doing the right thing in that respect however, just showing how the reasons morons are vilifying Bush for being waist deep, Obama is neck deep in.
And Obama has yet to free one single person to date so, in the freeing dept;
In response to: 3 sides 2 eve story wont likly here the truth in this life ....if he was set up to be scapegoat and knew he was going down it would seem to make sense for him to declare war against states what would he have to loose
all the wars that are going on is all about greed usa want the middle east 4 the oil nothing more nothing less & bin died of a heart attack & the power people say great we killed him
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
optomistic68: One more time....Bush was a joke around the entire world...Americas name was in the gutter hence all the American Bashing. That was all down to bush. USA is now getting its good name bab and people like you are trying to drag it back down to the gutter again...wake up man....
Wake up? I've been awake all this time but it seems like you just got up and found the world as it is.
Please explain what Obama has done to warrant this change of how "USA is now getting its good name bab" and then, explain what he has actually done to change this perception.
I'll wait around for the answer to remind you as you have a history of not answering my short, yet difficult to answer questions.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
ketchie: all the wars that are going on is all about greed usa want the middle east 4 the oil nothing more nothing less & bin died of a heart attack & the power people say great we killed him
A great classic post! It deserves a quiz to put you on the straight and narrow.
So, how much oil did the US get from Iraq since they freed it? Less or more than they got from Saddam?
If more, it could be argued that it was for oil but if less, it cannot.
So, know your facts or just shooting in the dark like the others?
Albertaghost: Wake up? I've been awake all this time but it seems like you just got up and found the world as it is.
Please explain what Obama has done to warrant this change of how "USA is now getting its good name bab" and then, explain what he has actually done to change this perception.
I'll wait around for the answer to remind you as you have a history of not answering my short, yet difficult to answer questions.
The world has woken up and the world is liking Obaama and America again. Be a good citizen and contribute to the good name the USA is once again enjoying in the world at large....
Albertaghost: Wake up? I've been awake all this time but it seems like you just got up and found the world as it is.
Please explain what Obama has done to warrant this change of how "USA is now getting its good name bab" and then, explain what he has actually done to change this perception.
I'll wait around for the answer to remind you as you have a history of not answering my short, yet difficult to answer questions.
The world has woken up and the world is liking Obaama and America again. Be a good citizen and contribute to the good name the USA is once again enjoying in the world at large....
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Albertaghost: Hi BB!
I personally think Obama is doing the right thing in that respect however, just showing how the reasons morons are vilifying Bush for being waist deep, Obama is neck deep in.
And Obama has yet to free one single person to date so, in the freeing dept;
Bush - fifty million
Obama - zero
I guess this is what happens when you inherit in politics.Bashing the past is pointless as well we know in the UK. WE have our own problems at the moment and a u turn is taking place as has been seen by the latest polls. Unfortunately a political party that started off with the best of intentions has taken the brunt,namely Nick Clegg's party.
Doesn't always pay to get into bed with others,as has been proved.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
optomistic68: The world has woken up and the world is liking Obaama and America again. Be a good citizen and contribute to the good name the USA is once again enjoying in the world at large....
Please explain what Obama has done to warrant this change of how "USA is now getting its good name bab" and then, explain what he has actually done to change this perception.
optomistic68: Let it Go..you have a sane and intelligent man at the wheel now. America is getting its good name back again. The game is up. Power to the people.
optomistic68: The world has woken up and the world is liking Obaama and America again. Be a good citizen and contribute to the good name the USA is once again enjoying in the world at large....
EU can have him in Jan.2012! Make him an Honorary Irish Citizen an Pres of the EU! You deserve him!
Albertaghost: Please explain what Obama has done to warrant this change of how "USA is now getting its good name bab" and then, explain what he has actually done to change this perception.
Does it really matter. The world now sees America in a different light and as far as America and the world is concerned that is all that matters. The image of the moron is fading but people like you do not want to move forward......
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
jvaski: Obviously - you admire him Alberta ...or you wouldn't be defending his solo credit for killing Osama .....
Who you talking about? I said Obama did a great job and that Bush also deserves some credit for keeping the intelligence thread going that Clinton started.
optomistic68: Does it really matter. The world now sees America in a different light and as far as America and the world is concerned that is all that matters. The image of the moron is fading but people like you do not want to move forward......
optomistic68: Does it really matter. The world now sees America in a different light and as far as America and the world is concerned that is all that matters. The image of the moron is fading but people like you do not want to move forward......
Now you only need to get rid of the MORONS in Brussels! Before thy send all of you to the Poorhouse like Obama's doing with the Americans!
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
optomistic68: Does it really matter.
Yes it does if you are to make at least an attempt at not being trivial. You say that Bush's actions ruined American's image and that Obama has improved it yet cannot state what Obama's actions were that improved it.
So, you either know what you are talking about or, are just shooting off your mouth. Please clarify.
optomistic68: The world now sees America in a different light and as far as America and the world is concerned that is all that matters.
By invading two more countries the world sees American in a better light?
optomistic68: The image of the moron is fading but people like you do not want to move forward......
I am. Obama did a bang up job with whacking OBL but seems that is a far cry from freeing fifty million people, removing a regional threat, weakening a global terrorist network and, pissing you off.
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So, in effect He possibly actually caused the worst attack ever endured by America ...........
Arrogance and Stupidity a fatal combination....