What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts? (48)

May 12, 2011 8:02 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA: Besides Al Qaeda, the same CIA-ISI conspirators also set up the Taliban at the same time and with the same covert US funding.



It bears noting that that last video (from the history channel) reflects the CIA version of events, attempting to lay the blame more on the ISI and pretending that the CIA's involvement was just in providing the funds.

But as always, To know who is running things, the rule of thumb is to "Follow the money".

The CIA never funds anything it doesn't directly control.
May 12, 2011 8:08 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Conrad73: Doubt that!
Some Circles in your Military and Intelligence Apparatus had to have knowledge of it!Someone like him can't live in a Garrisontown five years without some of the Authorities being in on it!
How would the US spend it's Aid on the Pakistan Public!
shell game find the ball like the price is right game show lol.
May 12, 2011 8:11 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
RayfromUSA: It bears noting that that last video (from the history channel) reflects the CIA version of events, attempting to lay the blame more on the ISI and pretending that the CIA's involvement was just in providing the funds.

But as always, To know who is running things, the rule of thumb is to "Follow the money".

The CIA never funds anything it doesn't directly control.
thats where the 2.3 trillion went to govt. cant find our in leaders hands for new world order lol.
May 12, 2011 8:36 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Ccincy: If it serves the purpose of why it was given sure it's a gift.Haven't we been doing that for quite sometime?Or am I just imagining things?


Well, yes, it's Standard Operating Procedure.

But let's look at it closely.

If someone gives you an envelope full of money for your birthday, but then requires that you use nearly all of that money to buy a gun (from them) and also requires that you use that gun to kill their business rivals is that person really your friend...looking out for your interests, or have you simply been drawn into their crime family?

The US is notorious for later turning on its friends.

The US put the Shah of Iran in power, and later deposed him.
The US put Marcos in power, and later deposed him.
The US put Pinochet in power, and later prosecuted him.
The US put Doug Van Minh in power, and later killed him.
The US created Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban and then morphed them into terrorist villains after they had won the Afghan war for them.

The US (or rather the Anglo-US power structure) created Pakistan and then killed its leaders whenever they didn't submit to US control.

Like Satan himself, "cabalists" (those involved in "cabals") never really "give" anything, and they don't have any real "friends".
May 12, 2011 9:57 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
There can be no understanding whatsoever of the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan without a clear understanding of the US oil pipeline project which is really the only issue behind the whole conflict.



The US pipeline project is in direct conflict with an Iranian pipeline project.



Whoever wins the pipeline conflict will become a rich superpower.
Whoever loses will disappear.

That's what the whole war is about.
May 12, 2011 10:47 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA:

The US pipeline project is in direct conflict with an Iranian pipeline project.



Whoever wins the pipeline conflict will become a rich superpower.
Whoever loses will disappear.

That's what the whole war is about.


This guy gives a pretty good simple explanation of it all.



And that guy's exactly right in saying that you don't hear the truth from the media, not even from the so-called "truthers" like Alex Jones.

Only certain truths are ever published by such shills as AJ.
Those that contribute to the coming chaotic internal violent conflict in the US. It takes a lot of chaos to justify martial law.

Nutcases on both the government and opposition sides have to be recruited, stirred up, organized, armed and set against into armed conflict against each other.

Obama will have his gestapo "civilian national security force".

And to serve as the opposition, the CIA is using its menagerie of largely fake right-wing nutcase groups and it's media shills voice to create and publicize a (largely fake) violent revolutionary movement.





Of course once violence starts and innocents start getting killed by both sides, emotional outrage will draw more and more people into the violence. Civil wars are automatically self-perpetuating.

By the way the Southern Ppverty Law Center mentioned by Keith Olberman in that last video is a typical CIA front organization.

Here's how two such front groups (both CIA controlled) are used by the press (also in league with the CIA) to stir up domestic conflict in the US.



Nobody in that video really cares about what they claim to be the issue, they are all working together to stir up strife.
May 12, 2011 1:00 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
karenmarie
karenmariekarenmariewexford, Wexford Ireland1 Threads 441 Posts
they mite av been the last to know,wink
May 12, 2011 9:55 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
TheresMyFriend: With the possibilities that Pakistan knew of OBL's whereabouts, do you think, with our 1+ billion dollars paid to them each year, they laughed at the USA all the way to the bank?

-JOHN-


Its Possible that Pakistan - ISI and its Army is aware of this. Its not possible for someone to hide in a huge mansion next to an prominent army complex for a long time . Its also possible that even CIA is aware of this . They must have been waiting for a appropriate political situation in the home country to take him out.
May 12, 2011 10:43 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
RayfromUSA: Well John, you seem to either not know what's really happening, or, to want to mislead others.

The US doesn't "give" Pakistan anything, really.

US "aid" to Pakistan for 2008 totaled 798 million (not "1+ billion") but nearly all of it was military aid. Only 20 million went for infrastructure.

When the US "gives" military aid it always has strings attached.
No, wait, on second thought, make that "chains", not "strings".

The military aid is given as funds, but a large part of those funds has to be used to buy weapons from the US. And the Pakistani military that receives the aid ensures that their government does exactly what the US wants. Which, in this case it to keep up the pretense of the imaginary Al Qaeda and Taliban insurgency which in turn justifies military madness worldwide and keeps the arms industry humming.

Of course, it's not really poor countries like Pakistan who pay for their weapons, it's US taxpayers.

But that doesn't make any difference to the military-industrial mafia. As far as they are concerned, money is money.

And besides making money, the worldwide arms race "justifies" US military expansionism.

The US now maintains bases all over the world.
No wonder the it' bankrupt.



In the absence of economic strength, the US is trying to cling to world dominance by force of arms.

What a way to lose friends and alienate people.
Only 20 million for their infrastructure?? Awww.... is that all? roll eyes
May 15, 2011 6:12 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
usmanarshad
usmanarshadusmanarshadKarachi, Sindh Pakistan5 Threads 5 Polls 7 Posts
ISI has already launched the inquiry.If any Intelligence or military officials found involved in this matter.As said by our DG ISI,strict action would be taken against those elements.
I would like to tell you that another inquiry disclosed that no ISI official was involved and ISI even did not know about Osama Bin Laden.Now,it is quite clear.And we should not malign Pakistan or ISI.
Well,about Aid,US should contact to public directly or by military means.(As, our military is highly organized institution).
US should check the AID which it give to Pakistan.US should spend it more on Education.
As,the backbone of TERRORISM is only the paralyzed and shamble educational system in Pakistan.
May 15, 2011 6:13 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
usmanarshad
usmanarshadusmanarshadKarachi, Sindh Pakistan5 Threads 5 Polls 7 Posts
ISI has already launched the inquiry.If any Intelligence or military officials found involved in this matter.As said by our DG ISI,strict action would be taken against those elements.
I would like to tell you that another inquiry disclosed that no ISI official was involved and ISI even did not know about Osama Bin Laden.Now,it is quite clear.And we should not malign Pakistan or ISI.
Well,about Aid,US should contact to public directly or by military means.(As, our military is highly organized institution).
US should check the AID which it give to Pakistan.US should spend it more on Education.
As,the backbone of TERRORISM is only the paralyzed and shamble educational system in Pakistan.
May 15, 2011 6:26 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
usmanarshad: ISI has already launched the inquiry.If any Intelligence or military officials found involved in this matter.As said by our DG ISI,strict action would be taken against those elements.
I would like to tell you that another inquiry disclosed that no ISI official was involved and ISI even did not know about Osama Bin Laden.Now,it is quite clear.And we should not malign Pakistan or ISI.
Well,about Aid,US should contact to public directly or by military means.(As, our military is highly organized institution).
US should check the AID which it give to Pakistan.US should spend it more on Education.
As,the backbone of TERRORISM is only the paralyzed and shamble educational system in Pakistan.


So the ISI.....the very possible host of bin Laden is investigating itself to see if the ISI hosted bin Laden? rolling on the floor laughing
doh

And if some ISI is found to have known of bin Laden presence? Maybe supported him in his attacks on Benzair Bhutto, Perez Musharref, and others in Pakistan and Afghansitan? What then a
name change and reassignment to a foreign country?

Pakistani creditability has been tanking since the bin Laden raid. You all need to hold off with the cover your butts posts and reports, till the US reports on that small library of intell from the bin Laden raid is made public. Because everything you say now.....can be just be destroyed by those findings.

But feel free to lay it out there.......
May 15, 2011 12:01 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
taxidiotis
taxidiotistaxidiotisnicosia, Nicosia Cyprus23 Threads 2 Polls 811 Posts
TheresMyFriend: With the possibilities that Pakistan knew of OBL's whereabouts, do you think, with our 1+ billion dollars paid to them each year, they laughed at the USA all the way to the bank?

-JOHN-
Yes you should attack them also
May 15, 2011 1:02 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
taxidiotis
taxidiotistaxidiotisnicosia, Nicosia Cyprus23 Threads 2 Polls 811 Posts
taxidiotis: Yes you should attack them also
i forgotrolling on the floor laughing
May 15, 2011 1:30 PM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
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Hey Bin !!!
Can you let me in !
Your Pizza is getting cold !!


rolling on the floor laughing
May 26, 2011 6:16 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Albertaghost: Pakistan will be the last stop in the War on Terror.
they werent goin to let us fly over to afganistan he told them wed bomb them into the stoneage/nukes?we knew they were bad actors then.
May 26, 2011 6:21 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Conrad73: Why didn't you tell them,since you were privy to the secret?
number 2 is in south pakistan usa/cia just wants in fighing for number 1 laden served his purpose then taken out/chess game.
May 26, 2011 6:33 AM CST What Do You Think, Did Pakistan Know Of OBL's Whereabouts?
shotstopper
shotstoppershotstopperWicklow / Dublin, Wicklow Ireland2 Threads 1 Polls 473 Posts
TheresMyFriend: With the possibilities that Pakistan knew of OBL's whereabouts, do you think, with our 1+ billion dollars paid to them each year, they laughed at the USA all the way to the bank?

-JOHN-



I don't think the government knew where he was but I do think the ISI knew where he was.
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