They want the 14th changed because of illegal aliens can use it gain state benefits. Also because children being born to illegal aliens find citizenship under it.
The today...the US has 13m illegal aliens in it. The 14th forces the states to recognize them with the same benefits and rights as other legal citizens and naturalized citizens.
It goes to the heart of the illegal alien debate int eh country. For example....without the 14th....the 'feet dry rule' can be revoked and deportation occurs. If you come ashore in the state of Florida, as a illegal....if one gets to dry land....they cannot deport you. Why? They are in the state of Florida.
Let mother nature buckup some then. If she is so frail, weak and cannot cut it.....we need to get a new concept of the world environment. Maybe ...maybe a new name....like the 500 Pound Global Gorilla.
John has a great sense of humor.....wonder what he will say if Palin wins in 2012. The Parrot is now running the US and her memorization proved better than Obama's teleprompter.....
I was waiting for Sean to give me more details on the Isreali shootings at him in southern Lebanon.
I did a google earth check of the Irish bases in southern Lebanon. It is about 3 miles from the border of Isreal. So within the range of the 81mm mortar.
But directly in line to the that Isreali location.....stood a Muslim village.
The last Irish soldier of the 47 killed in Lebanon, was killed by a Mortar round. The round could have come from Isreal or from this Muslim town.
And as said earlier...if it was sniping fire....who did they know that it was Isreali? 3 miles is to far for sniper rifles from the Isreali border. If the sniping was done at the base camp....more likely is was done from the numerous Muslim towns that surrounded it.
The judicial has been compromised under Bush-Obama. For example:
A number of former Guantanamo detainees have tried to sue in the United States. The courts have dismissed every case on the grounds that the government agencies and officials named have immunity from such civil lawsuits. . . .
The Bush and Obama administrations have also invoked the "state secrets" privilege to end a number of lawsuits that charged that various government and private entities were complicit in torture.
"The Obama administration continues to shield Bush-era torturers from accountability in civil proceedings by blocking judicial review of their illegal behavior," said Steven Watt, a staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union. "To date, not a single victim of the Bush administration's torture program has had his day in a U.S. court. The U.S. can no longer stand silently by as other nations reckon with their own agents' complicity in the torture program" . . . .
But another former U.S. military officer praised the British action. "Without getting into whether they are good guys or bad guys, there is a global obligation that we don't condone torture, and the U.S. has done everything to avoid its duty under domestic and international law to prevent and atone for torture," said retired Air Force Col. Morris D. Davis, the former chief military prosecutor at Guantanamo Bay, who resigned in 2007 after alleging political interference in the military's legal process.
Again a total foreign misunderstanding of how the American justice system works. Courts here have the liberty to hear cases that they wish to entertain. Filing a case gains a preliminary review if it has standing and merit for a hearing.
When they filed the case....they got a review of the case....the court found it did not have merit or standing. Reasons not to entertain the case.
The GITMO cases were throw out of American court for legal reasons.
They use bikes in China, Dude. Millions of them. People pedal power. Denmark is regressing into a minatuer Communist China. LOL......so not sure the REP positive and progressive position on alternative energy woudl be accepted in your new state of the people.
What wilileaks have done and hopefully will be able keep doing is a great happening in hisoty and Assange deserves receving the greatest prices of free press Ever... making this organistation in my eyes.
In the world to day you can not keep hiding TT and what ever a government does is going to reveal some time later and no body can guarantee of keep secrecy regarding what ever now on days.
As a matter of fact to gether with technical acheivmnets what Wikileaks is able on today will get more and more normal and there is always a guy some where more clever getting the information that the autorities are and then as told before
Actually Wilikeaks by it self have not stolen any thing and this organistation just sends the material furter to the rest of us and this is like sharing music and so on all over the net and no body can really
Assange is watned for ohter crims unfortunatily and I sure hope he is inoncent and can proof it because what his organistation have done is a great favor to us all no matter the problems it can also create... if they put him in jail and so on, still many many others will keep doing what he is doing and information will keep flow I promise you
Remeber when the master of stupidness GWb wanted to Bomb Aljazeera news for example? Could he do that or was he able doing that any way? Of course not! His own folks stopped him countinuation
I wonder when you were going to start praise Assange who has places 1000s in danger to Islamist that want to apply Sharia Law revenge to those have tipped and given them up to United States military.
Now you praise him for breaking down the trust of countries that conducted and developed long term diplomatic relationship in good faith. Just so your personal interest can be piqued into the discussions had.
Assange is hiding. He is hiding in a world that will eventually find him and dispose of him like a dust ball swept into the dust bins of history. If we find that the Obama administration that seems very luke warm to finding and prosecuting Assange had anything to do with the leaks, you are looking at a impeachable offense.
We will tear into the Obama administration legacy and leave it with the mistrust and deception that Assange has used to avoid justice for the deaths and tortured that he has left.
I have a very strong feeling that is why Obama/Holder/Clinton are near to shielding Assange. Obama could have use the DIA to shut Assange website down months ago. And any one that he opened after.
Heck, when I was doing investigations for the last adminstration....I found a new company on the net....that had a very serious WMD in development. We have that site and firm buried in 30 days. Buried so deep within our DoD development programs that no one would find it for years and years and years.
If Obama cannot shut Assange down....or will not....for what ever reason he is breaching his main role as POTUS. The defense of 'the country against all enemies foreign and domestic'. Americans are at risk to the wikileaks.
Americans that filed the reports in good faith on the battlefield or from the conference room representing this country with honor and intergrity. If Obama cannot respect that after being POTUS for several years, he does not deserve another term.
since Dude has spent the last 72 hours reading them for any GWB war crime evidence.))
250,000 documents are coming out in the US wikileak state department. Now it said that the culprit here uses his iPod to download the documents. While they have different kinds of IPods with different kinds of storage mememories.
The size of the leak....990,000 DoD documents....250,000 state department documents.....and the others is telling me....that there is more than one leaker using a iPod here.
The data base that was tapped....has over 1m with security clearance to gain access. A very large group of people....that might have done the same as the Private Army Intelligence anaylist.
Which bring me to this. How as a Private...do you get to become a "intelligent anaylsis'? A private is the lowest of the low on the Army rank of enlisted. But this guy had access to a classified and secured data base of millions of secret documents.
He is facing 52 years in a high security military prison at hard labor. Boy! And he thought....do 4 year in the Army and get a college degree and out...was he wrong. He will be in his 70s when they let him out if he gets convicted on all counts.
Around the world....American friends have been burnt by the this leak of state department documents. Some have taken it in stride, while others have found it concerning and troubling. Maybe some post on that it the future.
But....that President Obama does not want Assuange's head on a platter? The best the Administration could do...was Holder stepping forward to say....we think that this is a crime of esponiage. Hillary down played it like it was most recent score in a NFL game. Obama set the tone, here. After the state department leaks, he does not say anything to even the legal course that should be taken.
He has 200 countries around the world wondering if they should ever speak with a American diplomat in the future. If they do, it will be very guarded information shared. Because of the big drain in our electronic security.
I am not sure that Obama/Holder want to legal chase Assuange or the other wikileakers involved. They have a Army Private that is going to be the fall guy...and the rest of these likely very liberal person's like Assuange are going to go free.
LOL...I was waiting for someone to pick that up......nice catch Conrad... Isreal created Hamas!!!
To do what?
To reduce the population of Israel with car and bus bombings? With rocket and mortar attacks?
When I read that....said myself...."SB has totally lost it. Time to put him in the same room with Dude the mental technician and see what pops out. Then said to self.....Oh no not that....a hour of Dude and SB would mean a end of reality as we know it."
I just 'dressed down' a SOW (Senior Officer of the Watch) with some American slang... 5 days ago he gave me some bad info on a contact name and contact info.
I did not like that. So I forwarded the material to a 3rd party with some military tact (a nice way of saying colorful language) wording. Within 30 minutes, I had the man on the phone that I needed to talk with.
It is all how you do it....and to what motive.....and if you are carrying a grudge with the message.
If you want a vanilla and tasteless version of English....stay with the English version. But come into our backward and expect us to play by your rules....of political correctness, ettiquete, sensitivities..good luck.
We will not get white Christmas here in Florida. It has cooled off some. But year round green and mild temps. No snow to shovel either. I always enjoyed Michigan in the winter time with snow for the Holidays.
Why was it such a big issue then? Yes our pilot get water board in escape and capture courses. But GWB waterboards 3 al Qeada and literally saves the Brooklyn bridge....and it like he was pulling finger nails and amputating toes.....
Even Nancy Pelosi knew. Till she had to forget.....you want some American hyprocacy on the war on terrorism...there it is.
JS...aerial imagery was at a infancy in WWII. They had got first hand reports from people escaping the camps....on what the conditions were. But they did not know were all the camps were.
There was what..like 400 of them....one that escaped only knew were one camps was located.
So allied units would stumble into a camp...or in some cases actually fight their way into a camp. Ill prepared for what was on the other side of the wire.
JS you go in uninvited....the Mexican military is fighting you. They will end their counter drug operation to protect the country from gringo occupation. So without the invite....you wait.
Then we do what Obama is doing now. Sit and wait on the border and try to make interdictions.
Iraq and Mexico are two different deals. They both threaten the security of the US. But in different ways. What is happening in Northern Mexico is a horrible and tragic.
Ask the majority of the Americans, and we don't want it here. But it is not the Mexican gov't that is the threat. But well organized gangs and cartels. In Iraq, it was the Iraq government of Sadam Hussien that was the threat.
I am saying that 1000s of German guards came home on leave from duty assignment at the camps. They would tell their friends and families what was going on inside. Then they tell other in the German community.
You don't hide 6m people being taken to camps or what was going on in them.
You may not know what is going on in GITMO on a moment by moment factual accounting. But you know that waterboarding went on there....yes?
News gets out even in the tightest controlled media. Word of mouth....and is repeated....
So what is the problem? If you going after the cartels...you are going to do joint operation with the Mexican Federalies with US troops. Perry is just being direct here.
But is that a technical invasion of Mexico? No, because the US forces will be invited in by the Mexican government. The cartels will say it is a invasion. Hugo Chavez will say it is. Russia and China will likely both say it is.
Really it depends on what party is in the White House. If is DEM....then most of the world give them a OK to send in troops. If it is REP/Tea party then the US is expanding its empire.
They had 28,000 people killed in northern Mexico. In three years. Sounds like a war to me, JS. What does it sound like to you?
So better a war in the US? Or a war in Mexico?
Heck my great grandy was down in Mexico twice....once chasing Pancho Via....the other in the Mexican/American war. Just don't drink the war. Stay to the tequila.....
I am at the point were I want to move to Coopenhagen. They have advanced so far int eh world....now that tehy are planning bike super highways for the city.
Yep..put away the car... the motor cycle...motorized moped. Get out your bikes and use a super highway to get were you need to go. I mean the logic here is pure Danish. No cars, no Co2. No motorcycles, no injureis.
That type of logic...just shudders when one thinks....of a mother needing to buy groceries for a family 5 on a cycle, On the repair man that need a work truck to haul his gear, showing up at your door with a screw driver and hammer on his bike.
I understand the European idea of downsizing. Make a green foot print by making the other foot prints small. But let face it....when you order a baby grand piano....it is going to get delivered in a truck and not on the back of bike package deliver.
It just seem such a regression to me away from progress. Foot pedal bikes were so big in the early 1900s....a hundred years ago. Even the Wright Brother went from bikes to flying when they got the chance to.
I know am going to hear that it is healthy for you.....it will help with the ozone layer....it can be fun.....do it with your family. When it rains? Or snows? When your family has 5 places to be in 45 minute time?
Yes bikes, really work then....
But it is OK...when the Danes get on their 1930s bike kick....GM will have some Volts to sell them.
That IS the same Jimmy Carter...."that has many friends within Hamas?" One day, Jimmy has 42 American in captivity in Iran. And send the American military on aborted mission that cost them lives and aircraft in Iran.
From which for the first time, Iranian radicals and Revolutionary Guard felt they could defeat the United States....they literally made monument from the wrecked aircraft and helo that Jimmy Carter's mission left behind.
Then this year.... years later....Jimmy says..."the mission would have worked". Right Jimmy! In your wildest dream. It was poorly planned and poorly executed. They got caught in a sand storm...at night.... you still think that the mission would have succeeded?
It was poorly planned...because you had Americans scattered all over Tehran...you did not have control of the air....did not have any plan to stop the Iranian jets that were going to scramble on your fleeing helos.
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..................but nice to see a hard DEM out there. How did the mid term go?
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They want the 14th changed because of illegal aliens can use it gain state benefits. Also because children being born to illegal aliens find citizenship under it.The today...the US has 13m illegal aliens in it. The 14th forces the states to recognize them with the same benefits and rights as other legal citizens and naturalized citizens.
It goes to the heart of the illegal alien debate int eh country. For example....without the 14th....the 'feet dry rule' can be revoked and deportation occurs. If you come ashore in the state of Florida, as a illegal....if one gets to dry land....they cannot deport you. Why? They are in the state of Florida.