Dude Dude Dude.... Etu Brutus....joining SB in the Natenyahu paint job? Netanyahu is not a hardliner.....or zionist.
But nice to try to shift the topic.
Back to Obama. This really shows how weak he is in international affairs.
Any of the previous American Government....excluding...Jimmy Carters would make Egypt a call for freedom and democracy in the middle east. They would help extend it to...Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Libya...do you see Obama doing any of these?
It was a pretty big pile of yellow cake.......it only took....55 dump truck loads to move from Baghdad to the Islamic Radical Mountian complex in North Iraq........
You have MB isolated from the Egyptian gov't now. Why change it?
Just say you want fair election.
Instead Obama is pressuring Mubarak to step down and in the transtition gov't to include MB. So he is defeating all Clinton's work, all of the Bush work, all of Reagon's work to keep Egypt's government free radical Islamists.
You were talking to our DEM elected officials over here in America, Dude? Have any names for us?
President Obama took and accepted the GWB transtition report...that included financials. He had a period of time....90 days to question the report. That ended on his Oath of office.
All done here, Dudester. If they have not made anything public on financial transgressions by now.....you will not get it.
Al President Obama has to do...instead of all the peace and transtition talk for Egypt...is to say that the US will support a "fair democratic election in Egypt" and support a democratic government to the constitution of Egypt.
The latter presently forbids MB being part of the Egyptian government.
Instead....he is back room a deal to let the MB into the transtition government prior to the vote. How fair do you think that a election that has the MB controlling the polls or writing the ballots or counting the ballots will be?
They were pretty fanatic when they machine gunned Sadat reviewing stand. By the way....while Obama would not Mubarak on the same stage to him....he was sitting next to Sadat when he was gunned down.
They way I hear it....one came up and gave Sadat a cou de gras. Meaning Mubarak was right there.....likely wounded...when sadat died.
This is going to be the biggest hi-jack of a democratic movement since Russian Bolsheviks though they could work with the Russian Communist.
This has a combination of 1819 1938 written all over it. Foreign governments that were to impotent to help (1819). One trading away the democratic ideology of a country for safety and security (1938).
Soon we will have President Obama saying..."I think that it is peace in our time."
The Supreme Leader of Iran validated Ahmadinejad election. That is why Ahmadinejad has the office today. We have not been in Iran since 1979......and the Embassy take over. So how is breaking diplomatic relationship with a country that is holding your embassy hostage....a'failed politic/tricks'?
Because with MB in the government, you will not have a democracy.
What you have a is number of radical Muslims (MB) that if the Gov't makes any act that is democratic....supplying names of the gov't agents for democracy to their and Hamas hit men....
What do you think that the Supreme Leader in Iran is? Elected by the people of Iran? Or does he have life time position to dictate both the Iranian gov't and the Shia sect?
Those little microgramism...they make them by the vat full....you get a oil spill alone the AK pipeline....drop in some and go home.....all gone in the springtime..... better that Mr. Brawdy towel.....
Like they said in Washington earlier...."We have to re-think out middle east policies". Everyone thought that was in regard to the street protest countries....was not. Was in reference to Israel.
Right back to what happened in Khomenie's Iran. The officer corp was demoted and sent to Evin. A lot of desert in Egypt...I once heard that a vast Pharoh's army walked out into it and never came back.
Assuming a new Egyptian government emerges from this civilized revolution....When does the US recognizes the new gov't?
Before a election? After?
Before reparation to the 52,000 Americans that have lost house, business, vehicles and broken tourist vacations.
We are talking millions of Dollars here. I listened to a American billionaire that has 20 hotels in Egypt....all are closed. He was losing millions daily.
Should President Obama wink wink at the financial loses of Americans to the Egyptian street protest? Make a fast recognition of any government that emerges? Or slow the process down to wait till these issue are resolved? Personally, I am for the later here.
It is not like Europeans do not have a horse in this race. Many have some loses coming in this. There are a lots of Europeans leaving the country presently. Are European leaders going to wink wink? Or only recognize after some requirements have been met?
One might consider how Khomenie's Iran was recognized after his revolution for some guidance here.
If Hosni M....can be brought down with a twit.....hey it can happen literally anyplace in world today.....then a new day in civilized revolution has come. Or untill the first rock has been thrown.
Is this purely a homegrown revolution or one inspired from the outside?
I mean if this is a democratic revolution as the street protestor are claiming....it seems to me that GWB take down of Sadam Hussien in Iraq in Iraqi Freedom....should be given some credit. But also Presdeint Obama who did not have Hosni Mubarak on the stage with him during the Cairo address. That President Obama has left troops in Iraq and Afghanistan again outside influenced to a democratic movements.
Then you have the Muslim Brotherhood, return of Foreign Fighters and Hamas coming into the country. Their influence is surely to take this to Sharia Law and less freedom for Egyptians. And Iran? Anyone wish to say Iran has not had a hand here?
That Hosni Mubarak has said he will not seek re-election is one small victory for the protestors. Also that the Egyptian military is not mowing down street protestor....as was done in China years ago in Tiammennen Square. Another victory.
Maybe we are having more civilized revolutions in this century....
In light of Egypt, Jordan, Tunasia, Syria, Yemen....
do you think that REP Issa should still have his Congressional hearings on Islam?
By the way, my 5 finding papers on Sharia Law were submitted to his office last week. For encouragement. To have the Congressional investigation.
Or should the United States...as Juan as said.....just keep out of it....and hope it all goes away? that is 55 country and 1.3b Muslims that are breing asking to just go away....))
Does one country have a right to investigate acts that are occurring in another country? Spain was did seek to arrest and try the GWB's attroenys. So obviously some in Europe think that this international border crossing investigation and arresting is ligit. Or is just Americans that qualify for the attention on the international scene?
I don't see many countries raising investigations into Sharia Law, Islam, the Street Protest on the Muslim countries. What I see is a number countries who quivering in their collective boots to the events in Liberation Square.....afraid that if they do, bad things will happen to them.
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Etu Brutus....joining SB in the Natenyahu paint job? Netanyahu is not a hardliner.....or zionist.
RE: Most promisses of Obama are kept WHEN and IF possible! Support him keeping all of his promisses!
He has said more than once he is stepping down.....