I am just telling we know Russia has the radar evading Topol-M. It is a real missile and has radar avoiding technology. Just like stealth aircraft have radar avoiding systems. 18 months ago, Iran said it had copied the technology on the Fjair? missile.
Do I believe them? Maybe a better a question for the European missile defense people.....because the missile does not have the range for the US.....is can the JFjair avoid advanced phased radar of Aegis and and Interceptor batterys? If I was betting, I would say no. But who likes to make those kinds of bets? Because millions of lives are on the table.
Aegis and Interceptor phased radars are some of the advanced radars in the world. My bet is with the radars.
But this is why all long...I have asked the posters here....can you trust Iran? When they supposedly have a radar avoiding missile? Because you are betting allot of peoples lives.
And if you are going to have a radar avoiding missile...you don't want to tip it with a nuc? But leave it conventional? So Iran has tipped its hand to building nuc with its delivery systems.
Do I get this, Freddie or do you want it? What the heck....
1) Obama is not a HARvard professor. He is a HARvard grad.
2) Dang Cowboys...should be capitolized. It is how the west was won.
3) Obama has made three statements on Egypt. Said the same thing all three times. What is so hard about that? His teleprompter must be stuck.
4) Please clarify..."it is all about the way we talk and not the actual talking"? Because that sounds a lot like talking out of both side of your mouth at the same time. Also commonly called here....double talking.
I will end with this quote from Obama at the Cairo address
"As the Koran tells us "Be conscieous of God and speak always the truth." That is what I will attempt to do. To speak the truth the best I can, humbled by the task before us and firm in my belief that interest of human beings are far more powerful than the forces that drive us apart.""
I suspect that the Isreali do back gorund and psyche evaluation on thier military that are connected with thier nuc weapons, just like the US and NATO does.
Not sure of Iran...they did have the nuclear scientist that fled to teh US and then back to Iran....were he is now getting a debiefing and psyche readjustment sessions in Evin prison from the Iranian Secret Service.
Well nuclear deterrence would work for Iran. Except.....Iran say it has a missile that is radar stealthy.
So?
The Russians have one. It is the Topol-M with a defenseless reentry vehicle. Does Iran have one? I don't know. Do know this. If a major city evaporates....we have the ability to determine nuclear material signatures. All isotopes have a different signature. Telling us what country of origin the nuclear core was made in. Then it would not be good to be in that country.
Let me make one comment to your post. Which is all accurate from what I know.
Armor is used more often in the desert and open fields. Not in the cities. So when when DU projectiles is used in taking a Tank or other armor vehicle. It is normally a lot of sand. Hence it not near as dangerous to humans as many say.
SB....the first Isreali nuc that lifted off...is going to have so many radars on it....from military ships in the med...that no matter where it is targetted for....the repreisal of NATO, Russia or the US would be overwhelming on that small country.
So?
Look Isreal sees Iran as its hostile nation state threat. That might change after the street protests get done. But Isreal is not going to start knocking these Muslim countries with nucs just because they get a Muslim brotherhood gov't. If they had policy....they would have used it against Iraq when Sadam was firing SCUDs at them.
You are going to have to trust our judgment on somethings.
A great example s what is happening in Egypt right now. Everyone says....Obama keep your hands and America out of there. Obama has 50,000 Americans there. How can he keep his hands out the situation? He cannot.
So?
He calls for peaceful transtition of power. And honoring of human rights. Now that make perfect sense. Until you get hardline Islamist involved. Then military invention looks good.
GWB had the same in Iraq during the Insurrection. How do you form a new government with group of people wanting to kill the other group of people?
Am saying the GWB Crew has been there and done that. And it is not fun.
But you read my post here. I am not trying to undermine Obama message on Egypt. I think on these protest so far he doing pretty good. Jordan is going to be his tough call, in my opinion.
But hey...Tunasia, Egypt, Syria...all go for democratic reform More power to him and I will give Obama the credit for handling a really tough foreign geo political crisis very well.
But if Obama did it for Egypt....GWB did it for Iraq as well.
My gosh we are eating thru the 50 pages of this thread like Obama in Denver at Bronco Stadium with the Plastic White House behind him.
They are not doing that one against.
DNC just announce that Charlotte NC is their host city for the 2012 Convention. Here is hoping that they have safe and secure convention and the plastic imitation White House pillars don't get wind blown down.....
It was a while back....and I get a wee bit tired at the end of the day.....so a word slip or a typo happens....
But the point I come to is....Iran is indiscriminate in its used of conventional weapons. If Iran had nuclear weapons....no reason to think that they would be any different.
And yes....sometimes the White House gets all tangle up in the political correctness and stuff like typos. But I still have a ear there.
Isreal had nuc when Sadam was launch SCUDs them. Isreal had enough restraint....not to nuc every Iraqi city and kill millions of Iraqi. Sadam had no defense to Isreal nucs.
Israel could have deep fried Iraq like a crispy critter. The Coalition invasion would have walk over glass to Baghdad.
That is what SB and Iran are all about. They realize the potential threat Isreal is. But they don't recognize the restraint Isreal has. Or the Jewish/Isreali respect for human life.
Isreal could have killed most of Iraq's 16m in the first Gulf war. Left the country a nuclear wasteland. But did not.
Some of us had responsilbitioes after we got out the military SB. In my case it called a White House Appointee......and I am considered to be a principle investigator......so when they got new weapons systems. I was my part of job to find out them.
You want another one. This came from Iran to.
They modified propane tanks with large russian artillery rockets. Had a firing rack in the back of mid size truck. They could launch 8- 10 of these propane tanks at a target. Very inaccurate and often would fall short of the target or detonate on the truck.
But they would knock down a entire block of homes and buildings. Most of the time....there was not a American near the target.... only Iraqi civilians.
So ask your self, why is Iran providing weapons in Iraq that are are indiscriminate?
He has not put one in Tehran yes, SB. But consider what President A did to many of the 4000 American soldier killed in Iraq.
Know what a plasma IED is? Iran developed it for penetrating the armor of our HUM VEEs and trucks. It melts copper in a tube that then fired into the side of the vehicle. It melts thru the armor and then people inside.
That is President A and the Supreme Leader work....the Revolutionary Guard made the weapon and sent them to Iraq.
There is war, SB....and then there is War......if Israel or we laid one on President A or the Supreme Leader...I would not cry. I would be dancing in the streets.....
I know that movie...Steve Martin and Micheal Caine....Dirty Rotten Scoundrels....no problem Dude....been called many worse things than only a "scoundrel".....I was a umpire for a time. Things that they are called would ring your ears.
Am feeling as I am in good company....very classy company in fact.
I have friends in the legal profession. Men and women that will tell me the truth if Obamacare was made just to make legal work for their profession.
Now that I have the theory and the motive to Obamacare. I will find out if this "is the truth and all the truth". If it is....
Then to pull a REV Wright.... GD them. They put this country thru a year of turmoil for legal fees? For Obama's college buddies? That is not in the spirit of our country or its main tenant of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Not only that....by writing a bill that was unconstitutional.... there were millions of Americans that hoped that this was their medical safety blanket. That is almost cruel. To make that hope for personal gain.
I am not going to worry about it Pat. Most of the people in these thread are running fake profiles. They want to bask GWB or Isreal or waht ever that is their right of speach.
Open minded people will read the counter post and see a intelligent and honest agrument was made. That there was two sides to the debate.
That some took it to names and demeaning terms......and as they say.....the one with the cool head wins. Also in revolutions, the one that keeps his head wins.....
Quick is not the word.....he could steal your lunch on the playground and have you meeting him behind the school building for show and tell....or game of spin the bottle....maybe both
I was missing the derogatory Dude posts of old. The Obama "tone it down on the political vitriol" had put a gag on you. Nice to see the gag is off and you are back.....
RE: Iranian nuclear programme
And some people are recognized by the words they use....