Since UN got formed in 45, it really just look like they formed, took Palestine, and gave half to the Jews.
Fits really well with what some Norwegian researchers claim that Mossad were here, "helping" us sign the papers in 45, before occupation was over (aka taking a additional piss at the constitution).
Yes, in those conditions it would work pretty well. Was thinking in less convenient circumstances :p I meet few today who does not take a piss at Religion out of prejudice.
The Saddam case was not and would not be simple because of the history involved. Not interested in a quote war however.
Do you find it hard to understand why Israel was attacked in the beginning of their existence? they basically stole the land from the Palestinians, with the international community and especially USA backing them with nuclear weapons.
Brzezinski appeared to think Israel without USA's support/ presence in the region would make it in the long run. Smart fellow that one :p
I haven't really done that, really. The vid I saw was from the official self, who described her situation, and shared her information.
This thread was hypothetical and more meant for speculating than starting with who said what when. It has been overlapping, obviously, but could have been fun.
Well, Saddam wasn't exactly in the easiest position after the 80's, not sure how he could have navigated to every ones satisfaction.
Funny how the danger used to be Israels security, now it is the Muslim's security, while the nuclear bombs and lunatics hasn't changed sides at all :p But yeah, think it was Zbigniew Brzezinski who gave Israel 10 years after US withdrawal. Does not bother me, the Jews does not have more right to that land, actually less, than the natives got a claim to USA.
Check it out, it would show the patriot act for what it is, at least I found it interesting - if it is true, then the lies about Iraq just keep snowballing. Saddam had been cooperating completely about info, promised to buy X amount cars of US every year for X years, was pretty good deals.
Freedom is funny, it needs to come from within, nationally, as inwardly. That's where Ron Paul shine with his philosophy, but the philosophy is old. If we all acted virtuous, it wouldn't have been a issue, and that's the problem :p that way I think other cultures are more concerned about inward virtue than us.
You don't think it could have ended more beneficial with a different approach?
Wasn't there a ex-us official who'd been in held captive on patriot act who later said Saddam had practically been begging to not get invaded, and promised all sorts of things?
Think I first saw that woman from a video here on this forum. Looked legitimate enough for me although I didn't follow it up in any way.
But yeah, you can't only pay lip service to freedom and open marked.
Well, that is one of the things I see already within the society, the riots, and the underlying tendencies among usually not violent people are there as well. And the clue is, when/ if there was nothing to riot about, and the fight started inwardly for what's left, then things would get really ugly.
US/EU would be a much greater stabilizing force for the world if they spent their money inside own borders, building grand societies instead, and showing good example, and muscles only under direct threat.
The west is creating its own defeat, I think. What most "anti-western" people are concerned about is the deceit from its own leaders, as well as using tax money for war, which is murdering a lot of innocent people, while special interests gets rich. It is easy to start generalize, but from another perspective, USA has been the greatest experiment in history when it comes to liberty, and I think the development came from that. Don't think I've ever blamed a citizen of USA for anything. You could be looked upon as a terrorist state from certain pov's though.
When it comes to Israel, yeah, if the west pulled out, it could get a hard time, although it has a lot of nukes itself, although I'm not sure the Jews have more right for the land, than the natives have a right to USA. How would you see it if the international community decided to give a state of the US to a ethnic group and backed it with nuclear weapons? Please don't make me feel like 7 mill people have died, the Palestinians had nothing to do with that.
Financially yeah, everything is Chinese these days. What I think one of USA's ideas are, is to stop oil from the ME into China, I can see that fear lol.
RE: is there life after death
Hard to say when we don't know what death is :p