RE: US new policy on Syria

Aragon - The question becomes in what year?

There were years we supplied nothing.

There were years we gave too many arms to other countries and 'suggested' the excess amount be donated to certain groups in third countries. Then the the second country made the donation of whatever surplus they had. Sometimes it was old WW2 weaponry, sometimes it was old Soviet (or Russian or Chinese) weaponry. Very rarely was it the new US stuff.

Here are the worlds top 10 exporters of weapons in 2015.

United States: 31%
Russia: 27%
China: 5%
Germany: 5%
France: 5%
U.K.: 4%
Spain: 3%
Italy: 3%
Ukraine: 3%
Israel: 2%

Up until before 2010 China was down below the UK, but she now equips many countries that used to be supplied by the USSR. Three Asian countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Myanmar, accounted for more than two-thirds of those exports.

The world's second largest economy also had 18 African nations as clients during the five year period.

The U.S accounted for 30% of global arms sales, or about $7 billion per year, for the period 2005-2009, SIPRI statement says. From 2005 to 2009, the U.S. sold one-third of its arm exports to South Korea (15%), Israel (13%) and the United Arab Emirates (11%).
Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Now it is worth noting weapons producing countries like the US also sell arms to countries that produce weapons. Why is that? Because most of our sales to those countries are large ticket items, such as fighter jets, tanks, warships, etc. Meanwhile what those little countries produce are rifles, pistols and and cannon shells, grenades, etc. Russia sells fighter aircraft to India and helicopters to China (also at least 1 old aircraft carrier and a nuclear submarine).

Note also a lot of the bootlegged oil sold by Daesh (ISIS) goes to places like North Korea and some other questionable countries. Yes, sometimes the payment is in cash, but sometimes it is in ordnance. More than once military forces enforcing the blockade of North Korea have stopped freighters full of weaponry headed to Africa and the Mid East.

Now you have to add in another factor. We gave Iraq and Afghanistan lots of good weaponry to equip their forces with. Yes, some of it was captured Russian or Chinese weaponry (even some captured USSR weaponry), but also some of it was new American weaponry. Lots of that stuff has been captured by Daesh due to being abandoned or left behind by fleeing Iraqi soldiers. Something similar happened in Yemen. We gave stuff to that government, it collapsed and Al Qaida or Hamas or ISIS grabbed it.

It was only within the last calendar year our Congress directly authorized arming some of the forces seeking to overthrow the Syrian President. Prior to that it was all third parties agreeing to help.

Regarding the OP, there exists a Petition at We The People urging the US to settle 65,000 Syrians. This is much larger than the President's potential number of 10,000.

Another requests modifying US Citizenship requirements for Syrian refugees by reducing the time in country required from 5 years to only 1,000 days (3 years).

Another petition seeks to raise the number of refugees to 140,000 per year.

I just went through the entire list of electronic petitions on file at the White House. Not a single eligible person (I.e., US Citizen) has started any petition either opposed to the admission of Syrian Refugees, the imposing of any conditions for entry (i.e., Moslem or Christian), or even a petition to limit the numbers.

Now LJ with all the concerns you fear from this, how is it that you haven't logged on at We The People and begun an electronic petition about limiting the inflow of Refugees in some fashion? laugh

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

LoL, then you have no border.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

That is funny. They will just walk around or over the road blocks. Maybe throw some boards on the barbed wire or force a border guard to lay on it so they have something not sharp to walk over.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Here we go again..

"In a letter distributed to House members and seen by Reuters, Democratic Representative David Cicilline asked Obama to accommodate 65,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. Religious groups have called for the United States to accept 100,000 Syrian refugees."

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

They will do as cowards always do and surround themselves with hostage children and base themselves in hospital and schools.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Putin's solution is blast everyone that don't like his buddy Aziz.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

I think you need to study the evolution of guerrilla and asymmetric warfare and how effective it can be with only a very few fighters, if the infrastructure of a target is known. In this world as few as 20 people can easily cause a million deaths, if they know what they are doing and what the best targets are and don't care. The fun for Europe and the rest of the planet is vetting out and identifying and eliminating the 20 of such mind before letting the rest in.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

In your hot girl video, I am amazed and horrified at the naiveté of the Swedish police for letting someone wheel an uninspected cart into their building just because it seems to be a pretty girl pulling it. A few IEDs delivered that way and if there are any Swedish govt centers left they will learn better. It is very sad that such is the world we live in, but when even ambulance drivers have been known to pack their ambulance with explosives and drive through barricades as if on a call, such innocence is both misplaced and suicidal.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Gag me. I have worked in that program. It is a BS program. If there is no government left in the town the person 'claims' they are from, relatives who can't be found, and their photo or name shows up in no news report, then the assumption is they are not a terrorist. This of course also fails to take in the fact the name check apparatus is literally swamped with backloads of yet unchecked names literally years long and under US law if the name check is not completed within 90 days, an entry Visa is granted. Likewise the investigation is based entirely on how the person says their name is spelled. So today you spell it Ali, but at name check time you spell it Alee. Guess what? The name check investigation only looks at the Alee, and ignores all files under Ali or Alli. Further accuracy is of course totally hampered by a lack of US investigation personnel on the ground in the town where the person said they were from. Likewise more than once (SS after WW2 did a lot of this) the 'refugee' simply assumes the identity of someone innocent they know is dead and the body won't be found for awhile (if ever). Many countries lack a fingerprint database of all citizens and in a country hit by a civil war, such database locations are often one of the first buildings to be destroyed.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Well obviously no one is asking refugees to abandon their faith, so obviously they will need more Mosques and schools where their faith is taught.

I note today the White House is making noises fairly similar to the noises Jimmy Carter made before allowing the Cuban/Haitian Refugees into the US and what we heard back in 75 just before the Vietnamese boat lift came here. If you are unemployed and living near Ft Chaffee or Ft. Mcoy this may be good news because those camps may open again.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

I have no understanding of that statement. They were closer than Canada and Europe and they saw it coming, so why didn't the Med countries? Hell some of us way over here in the US saw it coming back in the days of the PLO moving into Lebanon. Everything else was inevitable.How is it countries closer to the situations couldn't foresee it?

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Go check out northern Burma where the Buddhists are the terrorists.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

How many have been granted refuge in the Vatican?

Seems to me that little country should be made to participate too. laugh

RE: Jade Helm 15 - What do you think?

That nutty woman on you tube who posted all the videos warning of Jade Helm beginning in April forecast we would all be rounded up by FEMA/DHS and executed NLY July 30. Clearly the day has been postponed and changed. Since JH ends in another week, does anyone have the new date for our round up and execution? I need to help plan a friend's wedding and know if the dates will conflict. rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Capricorn - You are decades too late. These are issues that needed to be addressed in the early 90s when the USSR collapsed. Instead those leaders decided to pretend it wasn't a problem and left the now insolvable problem for the next generation to solve.

We just watched the police of one country try to hold their borders and utterly fail. Right now while you read this there are probably at least 5,000 already in the water and coming and another 10,000 trying to get a seat on the boats coming tommorrow and another 50,000 already on the road to the places where they think the boats will be. And it will be like that for decades to come, as the conditions continue to worsen in the homelands (because no one is working on those issues) and the Sahara continues to grow. Except the numbers will grow larger and larger.

If you live in Europe, trust me, in a decade you will not recognize the place. Did you know each grown human holds almost 3 gallons of water? The water supply is not infinite. We already see the beginning of problems with the Dead sea. Other bodies of water will follow suit as the human population grows.

We think the unemployment of Europe is bad. Check out Libya or Chad's. McLee speaks of an educated workforce. LoL, many of the new migrants are/will be illiterate. Some come from lands where the teachers were killed or driven out years ago.

Note also the industry requires a stable society. If it is not stable, if there are food shortages, water shortages, electric brown outs at odd hours, and violence and corruption, industry fades away. What then?

Those who preach goodness and mercy, they forgot, that also means the elimination of their own blood line and way of life and leads to grand children who probably won't even speak the same language and who will probably always be near starvation.

Change is bad. Change is coming. The Borg are coming. Resistance is futile.

RE: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Jerry Pournelle (or Niven, I forget which) wrote about them in the science fiction novel Footfall a few decades ago. Of course in the novel the rods were I think only about 15 feet long. Somewhat analagous to the 'Lazy Dog' pellets we used to drop on the Ho Chi Minh trail from our B-52s, but of course coming from 500 miles up, moving with a lot more velocity.

RE: Moths..

When did inoffensive sea gulls become targets?

How disturbed is that?

RE: Car or Motorbike?

Truck dude. A big one so I can just crush or roll over whatever is dumb enough to get in my way.

RE: what wouldn't you share

Money. I no longer share money. Nor do I share girlfriends.

RE: bed..

Proper penance involves flogging oneself with leather straps with nails or barbs in them. It is best done in public places while screaming out the Lords Prayer.

RE: LABOR DAY WEEKEND

You are supposed to spend the weekend goofing off, watching football and having a back yard barbecue and also getting drunk.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

I started wading through the whole 24 pages, but some of them were mostly 'this post removed by moderator.' Once or twice, okay I continue reading, but I encountered enough of those so that I lost track of what was being discussed and just jumped to the end here.

My two cents worth.

Only some of the refugee flight is Daesh inspired. Desertification of the African continent is also pushing folks out of the ever expanding Sahara region. The civil wars raging in Africa also play a role. Folks hear there is unlimited water in Europe, jobs (something scarce in many countries), electricity and running water (also scarce in some countries) too. So an entire continent and part of another continent are all moving to Europe. Whites may still be the primary occupants of Europe, but in 50 years if an entire continent of other races move there, the whites will be an insignificant minority.

Someone mentioned sustainability. Yeah, good point. What happens when the numbers of population in Europe grow larger than the European infrastructure can support?

No doubt some will migrate towards Russia. It remains to be seen how the Putin types will react to that.

It is a problem requiring some serious hard thinking, and maybe the only real long term solution will not be a nice one.

RE: WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS SEPTEMBER?

You will not be allowed into Heaven if you have worldly goods or money in this life. As a sinner, and you know you have sinned before, your only chance of showing God you want to atone for that is to give away your worldy goods before September comes. As someone willing to do a final good deed, I will accept your money and property for you. Please send your checks or money orders and property deeds to Ken_19, P.O. Box 428. Make everything out to me. God will be pleased with you if I receive them before it all begins. This is your last chance to enter Heaven. Don't miss it. Get those checks and deeds in the mail to me today.

RE: WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS SEPTEMBER?

Yeah, here too. Early. The warmer than ever before (record keeping says) July has taken a toll.

RE: China Building Island in Disputed Waters

We defeated the Soviets by letting them over extend and over spend. It will work again.

RE: China Building Island in Disputed Waters

Philippines can't afford full military modernization: officials

The Philippines can only afford a "frugal" military upgrade, defence officials said Monday, even though maritime tensions with China are growing.

Despite a proposed 25 percent rise in next year's defence budget, the government must still divide resources between external defence and internal threats like insurgencies and natural disasters, Defence Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and other security officials added.

Since President Benigno Aquino took office in mid-2010, the Philippines has acquired two former US coast guard cutters, three landing craft from Australia and South Korea and seven surplus UH-1H helicopters.

"The goal of updating and modernising our armed forces is a long and painstaking process," Gazmin told a ceremony for the commissioning of 10 more newly-acquired air force helicopters.

"That means we have to be frugal and acquire reliable platforms at very reasonable costs... as allowed by our meagre financial resources."

The modest upgrade has been prompted partly by China's moves to stake its claim to most of the South China Sea.

These include building new islands in the Spratly archipelago and taking effective control of Scarborough Shoal after a standoff with the Philippine Navy.

Philippine Air Force chief Lieutenant-General Jeffrey Delgado said the 10 new helicopters will be used to address internal security problems.

The military expects more aircraft deliveries this year including possibly the first two of 12 FA-50 fighter jets earlier ordered from a South Korean supplier, Delgado told reporters.

Delgado said the FA-50S were mere "transition aircraft" toward more advanced more advanced fighters jets which the Philippines cannot now afford.

Defense Department spokesman Peter Paul Galvez said communist and Muslim insurgencies remained a priority despite the new watchfulness on Philippine borders.

"We are first focusing on internal security and in the succeeding horizons, we will go towards external defence," he said, criticising China's reclamation work.

"They should stop their island-building. That steps up the pace of militarization," Galvez said.

The Philippines has been among the most vocal in challenging China's sea claims, which also overlap those of Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam.

US ambassador Philip Goldberg said the United States, the Philippines' closest defense ally, was ready to provide surplus military equipment and budgeted $50 million in foreign military aid to the Philippines last year.

Complete article is at:

RE: China is a threat to the Human race

Yeah, but the AKs and shotguns are from China/Norinco.

RE: How long after dating someone would you remove your profile from dating site/s

There is no need to remove anything. In a few months the site will auto delete your emails and your friends here will be gone anyway. If in 5 years you and the new friend break up, just log back in and start over.

Private info or not?

So there is this couple living together, after a few months together they break up and go in different directions. A month later the girl discovers she is pregnant by the man who just moved out.

Her sister says, call him and tell him. No matter what you decide about keeping it, he deserves to know, and you should at least hear how he feels about it.

Her mother says, absolutely not. Why tell him? He is gone from your life and why have it anyway? It will ruin your stomach and who will want a single mom with some other guy's kid? If he doesn't want it, how would you care for it? Abort it at once.

Her aunt says, have the child. Whether or not you ever decide to tell him he is a father and even if you and he don't want the child after the birth, it deserves a chance at life and there are thousands of people willing to adopt children.

Which one is the best choice?

RE: Who would you pick right now for the Office of Presidential Puppet!

Bruce Jenner is the best choice of those available. Why isn't he and Kim Kardashian (for VP) on the list of choices? Obviously we need a transgender President. A transgender Asian President would be best, but that is too radical for the two big parties.

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