China Building Island in Disputed Waters (161)
The above caption is from the latest news from CNN.
Note: These islands located around South of Taiwan, Northeast of Malaysia, West of the Philippines had been occupied by these countries since 1956. China only came in in the early 1980 according to the article. There is about 120 islands that are considered THE SPRATLEY ISLANDS.
The question is why would China be so aggressive on pursuing this venture when the whole world is agitated?
Anyone?
Thanks all for your opinions and contribution.
Note: These islands located around South of Taiwan, Northeast of Malaysia, West of the Philippines had been occupied by these countries since 1956. China only came in in the early 1980 according to the article. There is about 120 islands that are considered THE SPRATLEY ISLANDS.
The question is why would China be so aggressive on pursuing this venture when the whole world is agitated?
Anyone?
Thanks all for your opinions and contribution.
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Technically, they are doing nothing wrong, as they're building on land ruled by their country in order to build an airstrip and a base.
But, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
But, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
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2girlsnocup: Technically, they are doing nothing wrong, as they're building on land ruled by their country in order to build an airstrip and a base.
But, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
Good postBut, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
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lindsyjones: Can you build an island?
An island in the eyes of the law?
Can you build your own island? Certainly! But it won't be the same as a "normal" island -- not in the eyes of international law, anyway.
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), to which China and all of the South China Sea claimant states are party, draws a sharp distinction between naturally formed and artificial islands.
UNCLOS is explicit in stating that man-made structures do not possess the status of islands, have no territorial waters of their own and their presence does not impact on the delimitation of maritime boundaries.
While land reclamation may indeed be possible around features that already qualify as islands, simply building up a feature so that it is elevated above the high tide mark will not transform it into a "real" island.
Any opinion?
What is the real deal here?
u r only jealous u never thought of it first , who would not like their own tropical island in the sunAn island in the eyes of the law?
Can you build your own island? Certainly! But it won't be the same as a "normal" island -- not in the eyes of international law, anyway.
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), to which China and all of the South China Sea claimant states are party, draws a sharp distinction between naturally formed and artificial islands.
UNCLOS is explicit in stating that man-made structures do not possess the status of islands, have no territorial waters of their own and their presence does not impact on the delimitation of maritime boundaries.
While land reclamation may indeed be possible around features that already qualify as islands, simply building up a feature so that it is elevated above the high tide mark will not transform it into a "real" island.
Any opinion?
What is the real deal here?
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ali110: Good post
I forgot to add, Burma and Vietnam, do have a stake, too.
On the note, why would it matter as a conflict in the making?
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lindsyjones: I forgot to add, Burma and Vietnam, do have a stake, too.
On the note, why would it matter as a conflict in the making?
On the note, why would it matter as a conflict in the making?
"The leaders of Southeast Asian nations recently took the extraordinary step of warning China that its island-building activities in the contested South China Sea "may undermine peace, security and stability" in the region."
This is the exact statement on the news from CNN>
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epirb: u r only jealous u never thought of it first , who would not like their own tropical island in the sun
lol
you are responding like a little kid,even on matters that are discussed seriously by the world.Jealous? So this is all about vanity to you? Grow up will you?
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epirb: u r only jealous u never thought of it first , who would not like their own tropical island in the sun
Or yes if I may say so, now what? The world will heed because I am jealous?
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lindsyjones: Or yes if I may say so, now what? The world will heed because I am jealous?
how does that song go ...I got my island
in the sun
made from rocks
from a mountain range
there is LJ on bended knee's
trying hard to start a family....
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Yeah! and China is going to get it/Japan Filipinas Vietnam USA/we're going to kick some Chinese assess
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DertyHarry44: Yeah! and China is going to get it/Japan Filipinas Vietnam USA/we're going to kick some Chinese assess
Thanks for joining Derty. . I think it's more of a substantial claim for Natural resources.
China doesn't need any more land. But for its own greed, I'm sure it works for them.
I'm curious as to what extent it can create.
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lindsyjones: Thanks for joining Derty. . I think it's more of a substantial claim for Natural resources.
China doesn't need any more land. But for its own greed, I'm sure it works for them.
I'm curious as to what extent it can create.
China doesn't need any more land. But for its own greed, I'm sure it works for them.
I'm curious as to what extent it can create.
Epirb thanks for joining just the same, and I personally couldn't care less but if it is the place that provides 10 percent of global fishing, then it will be affected.
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lindsyjones: Thanks for joining Derty. . I think it's more of a substantial claim for Natural resources.
China doesn't need any more land. But for its own greed, I'm sure it works for them.
I'm curious as to what extent it can create.
China doesn't need any more land. But for its own greed, I'm sure it works for them.
I'm curious as to what extent it can create.
Is all for the oil under China sea/they want all that oil/like Japan did back then oil in Indonesia
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2girlsnocup: Technically, they are doing nothing wrong, as they're building on land ruled by their country in order to build an airstrip and a base.
But, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
But, I find it strange the other countries are worried about the airstrip, because if China does build an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef, it would put Beijing on a par with Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam who all have such capability in the Spratlys.
Exactly. The other countries (for excample the Philippines) have their own claims. It just so happens that China is an economic Super power now and will basically confine them. A Game of Thrones right in the South China Sea. Where the winner is already decided.
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MADDOG69: Exactly. The other countries (for excample the Philippines) have their own claims. It just so happens that China is an economic Super power now and will basically confine them. A Game of Thrones right in the South China Sea. Where the winner is already decided.
not yet Vietnam and Japan are watching along with Sam and Putin
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DertyHarry44: not yet Vietnam and Japan are watching along with Sam and Putin
They can watch all they want. China's in the middle of building the New Silk Road. It's a concept that also involves Sea routes. Securing the South China Sea is the start of the Southern Sea route.
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All the South China Sea is not and has never been part of China, is gross dishonesty to claim it is or has bee, Likewise Tibet had never ever been part of China, and before the clowns jump in, yes China invaded Tibet a few times but eventually withdrew its invading forces.
Actually China built the great wall of china to keep the Tibetans out of china and the wall therefore draw a line displaying the extent of its western boarders.
South China Sea is not part of china as the dishonest lying communist scumbags now attempt to claim. China had armed forces erect a marker off Brunei proclaiming the extent of its territory, as the crow flies the marker is approximately 1,853 miles north of Darwin Australia.
China is cruising for a bruising, events that will without doubt in my mind spill lots of blood not only in Pacific, Indian Ocean all of Asia but also all the way into Europe
Actually China built the great wall of china to keep the Tibetans out of china and the wall therefore draw a line displaying the extent of its western boarders.
South China Sea is not part of china as the dishonest lying communist scumbags now attempt to claim. China had armed forces erect a marker off Brunei proclaiming the extent of its territory, as the crow flies the marker is approximately 1,853 miles north of Darwin Australia.
China is cruising for a bruising, events that will without doubt in my mind spill lots of blood not only in Pacific, Indian Ocean all of Asia but also all the way into Europe
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robplum: All the South China Sea is not and has never been part of China, is gross dishonesty to claim it is or has bee, Likewise Tibet had never ever been part of China, and before the clowns jump in, yes China invaded Tibet a few times but eventually withdrew its invading forces.
Actually China built the great wall of china to keep the Tibetans out of china and the wall therefore draw a line displaying the extent of its western boarders.
South China Sea is not part of china as the dishonest lying communist scumbags now attempt to claim. China had armed forces erect a marker off Brunei proclaiming the extent of its territory, as the crow flies the marker is approximately 1,853 miles north of Darwin Australia.
China is cruising for a bruising, events that will without doubt in my mind spill lots of blood not only in Pacific, Indian Ocean all of Asia but also all the way into Europe
Actually China built the great wall of china to keep the Tibetans out of china and the wall therefore draw a line displaying the extent of its western boarders.
South China Sea is not part of china as the dishonest lying communist scumbags now attempt to claim. China had armed forces erect a marker off Brunei proclaiming the extent of its territory, as the crow flies the marker is approximately 1,853 miles north of Darwin Australia.
China is cruising for a bruising, events that will without doubt in my mind spill lots of blood not only in Pacific, Indian Ocean all of Asia but also all the way into Europe
lol. The Great Wall is a few 1,000 miles North of Tibet. You mean the Mongols?
Anyway the Yuan and Qing involved Tibet within it's borders. That's several centuries, but not concurrent.
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MADDOG69: They can watch all they want. China's in the middle of building the New Silk Road. It's a concept that also involves Sea routes. Securing the South China Sea is the start of the Southern Sea route.
that's true, Japan did the same with Indonesia, result?
they attacked USA cause USA was in their way then 2nd WW
now 3rd WW
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An island in the eyes of the law?
Can you build your own island? Certainly! But it won't be the same as a "normal" island -- not in the eyes of international law, anyway.
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), to which China and all of the South China Sea claimant states are party, draws a sharp distinction between naturally formed and artificial islands.
UNCLOS is explicit in stating that man-made structures do not possess the status of islands, have no territorial waters of their own and their presence does not impact on the delimitation of maritime boundaries.
While land reclamation may indeed be possible around features that already qualify as islands, simply building up a feature so that it is elevated above the high tide mark will not transform it into a "real" island.
Any opinion?
What is the real deal here?