China Building Island in Disputed Waters (161)
CNN released US photography today showing the Chinese had weaponized the island (artillery), but the US reports the artillery has since been hidden from view in structures nearby, or removed.
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Ken_19: CNN released US photography today showing the Chinese had weaponized the island (artillery), but the US reports the artillery has since been hidden from view in structures nearby, or removed.
Why should the USA really give a good PSF about what China is doing with their island or anything else they do? We're not going to draw a line in their sand, that's for sure. They can make a land bridge and join Japan with Asia for all I care.
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galrads: Why should the USA really give a good PSF about what China is doing with their island or anything else they do? We're not going to draw a line in their sand, that's for sure. They can make a land bridge and join Japan with Asia for all I care.
Well I do, and more so if it's weaponized like mentioned by Ken.
So what's it for if not for massive destruction?
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Ken_19: CNN released US photography today showing the Chinese had weaponized the island (artillery), but the US reports the artillery has since been hidden from view in structures nearby, or removed.
It spells global danger if you ask me.
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lindsyjones: Well I do, and more so if it's weaponized like mentioned by Ken.
So what's it for if not for massive destruction?
So what's it for if not for massive destruction?
But, why does China's presence there, military or not, intimidate anyone else more than any other place they may occupy? Let them have their fun in their sandbox.
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galrads: But, why does China's presence there, military or not, intimidate anyone else more than any other place they may occupy? Let them have their fun in their sandbox.
I don't think it's fun for anyone who gets hurt.
Again why would you build an arsenal if it's not intended for dangerous game?
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lindsyjones: I don't think it's fun for anyone who gets hurt.
Again why would you build an arsenal if it's not intended for dangerous game?
Again why would you build an arsenal if it's not intended for dangerous game?
Perhaps that question could be answered by the country that has the largest military power in the world?
I don't agree with the action carried out by China, but neither is is right to say and I quote "So what's it for if not for massive destruction?" inferring that China will start a war.
Looking at the argument from the Chinese side, they are in total belief that they USA will attack them, so therefore need to have secure defences in place.
Both countries are playing a very very dangerous game.
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lindsyjones: I don't think it's fun for anyone who gets hurt.
Again why would you build an arsenal if it's not intended for dangerous game?
Again why would you build an arsenal if it's not intended for dangerous game?
Who is getting hurt? The USA has had stuff like that all over the world. I wish we didn't. We should pull our troops and equipment and bring them all home, never again to fight and die fighting other people's wars.
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rizlared: Perhaps that question could be answered by the country that has the largest military power in the world?I don't agree with the action carried out by China, but neither is is right to say and I quote "So what's it for if not for massive destruction?" inferring that China will start a war.
Looking at the argument from the Chinese side, they are in total belief that they USA will attack them, so therefore need to have secure defences in place.
Both countries are playing a very very dangerous game.
Looking at the argument from the Chinese side, they are in total belief that they USA will attack them, so therefore need to have secure defences in place.
Both countries are playing a very very dangerous game.
Curious, why does China think the USA will attack it? The USA is probably the first world super power that has not gone all out beating their war chests and conquered other countries. We forgave China's WWII debt to us, which was probably more than what the USA presently owes China.
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galrads: Who is getting hurt? The USA has had stuff like that all over the world. I wish we didn't. We should pull our troops and equipment and bring them all home, never again to fight and die fighting other people's wars.
Since the US has things others want, we will always be at war with someone. Preventative wars designed to keep the fighting off our shores.
None the less, I do like the build a base idea. I think it would be to our advantage to build one on our West Coast and one on our East. Unlike China we could keep them inside our territorial waters. Use them for training, dry docks for ships, emergency airport, etc.
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rizlared: Perhaps that question could be answered by the country that has the largest military power in the world?I don't agree with the action carried out by China, but neither is is right to say and I quote "So what's it for if not for massive destruction?" inferring that China will start a war.
Looking at the argument from the Chinese side, they are in total belief that they USA will attack them, so therefore need to have secure defences in place.
Both countries are playing a very very dangerous game.
Looking at the argument from the Chinese side, they are in total belief that they USA will attack them, so therefore need to have secure defences in place.
Both countries are playing a very very dangerous game.
Defense is built in anticipation of an attack. I don't suppose you want me to think that China is no more capable to launch an attack, right? Like it's USA or Russia would stand to be the aggressor.
It's right for me to think that whoever it will serve, defense or attack means a global dispute and humanity is the victim.
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galrads: Who is getting hurt? The USA has had stuff like that all over the world. I wish we didn't. We should pull our troops and equipment and bring them all home, never again to fight and die fighting other people's wars.
The mechanics of war start with accusations. Iraq is a prime example. In reality any cause made up or real can ignite a war. The question is who'd be the protagonist and why.
Maybe test for artillery capabilities are much overdue for testing.
In the second world War, bombing Hiroshima or Nagasaki didn't justify the reasons laid out. Japan was ripe for surrender. Yes, it served as a good testing for the latest annihilation power man built against mankind.
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Also I think one or two of those off shore, but in our own waters, would make great, Deep Water Coast Guard facilities. :)
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Ken_19: Also I think one or two of those off shore, but in our own waters, would make great, Deep Water Coast Guard facilities. :)
Why not build in the middle of international waters for rescue purposes. .
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Ken_19: Also I think one or two of those off shore, but in our own waters, would make great, Deep Water Coast Guard facilities. :)
Good idea. I believe we have one on West side. TheUSCG has one on Kodiak Island. A naval air base there, guarded by Marines, 70's, was converted primarily for their use in the early 70's. Been there.
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lindsyjones: The mechanics of war start with accusations. Iraq is a prime example. In reality any cause made up or real can ignite a war. The question is who'd be the protagonist and why.
Maybe test for artillery capabilities are much overdue for testing.
In the second world War, bombing Hiroshima or Nagasaki didn't justify the reasons laid out. Japan was ripe for surrender. Yes, it served as a good testing for the latest annihilation power man built against mankind.
Japan was not right for surrender at all , the Japanese were ready and willing to die fighting . You are looking at the meaning of life through western eyes rather than Japanese eyes . The whole essence of their country was to die fighting , "see you at the shrine" was taken literally . They were only too happy to be dead , bloody nuisance by all accounts .Maybe test for artillery capabilities are much overdue for testing.
In the second world War, bombing Hiroshima or Nagasaki didn't justify the reasons laid out. Japan was ripe for surrender. Yes, it served as a good testing for the latest annihilation power man built against mankind.
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lindsyjones: Why not build in the middle of international waters for rescue purposes. .
Because then we would be as bad as China. Our interdiction zone is 200 miles from our coast. I do see some advantage to having a major CG facility 180 miles out.
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A recent Surveillance Flight in the area, with the Audio.
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MADDOG69: A recent Surveillance Flight in the area, with the Audio.
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