Trump promised throughout his campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall HE is going to build, now he is spinning his promise, and says he meant the US taxpayers will first pay for the wall, THEN mexico will reimburse the taxpayers for the wall. .DUUHH! What a joke of fools his followers are to believe this fool of a con-man... yeps, Trump is now speaking what he meant to speak BUT forgot to tell his followers during his campaign, but had to first get the votes, Trump knows darn-well Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, AMERICAN taxpayers will pay for the wall with higher taxes, which Trump also promised he WOULD NOT RAISE. There is no other way for the wall without higher taxes to the American people... so go figure.
BTW, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A BLAME- TRUMP-wall. There will be a completion of what was started in 2006 or 2009 I think that was the year... but no grand Trump wall. So far all his campaign promises are lies and have fallen by the wayside as he is continuously changing his childish mentally-ill mind faster then he changes his draws
Donald Trump Admits U.S. Taxpayers Will Pay For The Wall, Claims Mexico Will Reimburse Costs This doesn’t sound like his campaign promise. 01/06/2017 09:00 am ET | Updated 20 hours ago Christina Wilkie White House reporter, The Huffington Post
President-elect Donald Trump said on Friday that he intends for U.S. taxpayers to fund the construction of his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. That money, Trump tweeted, “will be paid back by Mexico later!”
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump The dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later! 5:19 AM - 6 Jan 2017
The tweet Trump wrote on Friday morning followed multiple reports detailing how members of his transition team have been working with congressional Republicans to come up with a way to use taxpayer dollars to pay for building the wall.
Trump claimed he needed to use congressionally appropriated funds to build “the Great Wall for sake of speed.”
But making U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for the border wall would violate one of Trump’s central campaign promises, and a pledge that Trump reiterated at countless rallies, when he would ask the crowds, “Who’s gonna pay for the wall?!” and get chants of “Mexico! Mexico! Mexico!”
Trump first suggested that Mexico might reimburse the United States for the wall during a speech in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, in October. But that comment alone did little to change the yearlong narrative about how Mexico would pay for the wall, exemplified by tweets like this one.
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump Mexico will pay for the wall! 5:31 AM - 1 Sep 2016
Neither Trump nor his transition team have explained how Trump might go about trying to force a sovereign nation like Mexico to fork over billions of dollars for a domestic building project it opposes.
The president-elect plans to keep talking to Mexico about how the country will pay for the wall, Trump spokesman Sean Spicer said Friday. “Whether it’s through tariffs or a direct check, he’ll talk to them about it,” Spicer said.
But Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto clearly doesn’t think there’s anything to talk about. He met with Trump this fall, and said he told the then-Republican presidential nominee “at the start of the conversation .... that Mexico will not pay for the wall.”
If Trump and his allies get their way, a vote in Congress to appropriate money for the construction of a wall could be held as early as April, when Congress will face a showdown over a must-pass spending bill. It’s very unlikely that Democrats will support a spending package that includes billions of additional dollars for a wall, however.
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SistaCallie: Trump promised throughout his campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall HE is going to build, now he is spinning his promise, and says he meant the US taxpayers will first pay for the wall, THEN mexico will reimburse the taxpayers for the wall. .DUUHH!
What a joke of fools his followers are to believe this fool of a con-man... yeps,
Trump is now speaking what he meant to speak BUT forgot to tell his followers during his campaign, but had to first get the votes, Trump knows darn-well Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, AMERICAN taxpayers will pay for the wall with higher taxes, which Trump also promised he WOULD NOT RAISE. There is no other way for the wall without higher taxes to the American people... so go figure.
BTW, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A BLAME- TRUMP-wall. There will be a completion of what was started in 2006 or 2009 I think that was the year... but no grand Trump wall. So far all his campaign promises are lies and have fallen by the wayside as he is continuously changing his childish mentally-ill mind faster then he changes his draws
Donald Trump Admits U.S. Taxpayers Will Pay For The Wall, Claims Mexico Will Reimburse Costs This doesn’t sound like his campaign promise. 01/06/2017 09:00 am ET | Updated 20 hours ago Christina Wilkie White House reporter, The Huffington Post
President-elect Donald Trump said on Friday that he intends for U.S. taxpayers to fund the construction of his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. That money, Trump tweeted, “will be paid back by Mexico later!”
We are not going to pay for Trump's wall, not now and not later.
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump The dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later! 5:19 AM - 6 Jan 2017
sorry, cut to fit.
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SistaCallie: Neither Trump nor his transition team have explained how Trump might go about trying to force a sovereign nation like Mexico to fork over billions of dollars for a domestic building project it opposes.
The president-elect plans to keep talking to Mexico about how the country will pay for the wall, Trump spokesman Sean Spicer said Friday. “Whether it’s through tariffs or a direct check, he’ll talk to them about it,” Spicer said.
But Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto clearly doesn’t think there’s anything to talk about. He met with Trump this fall, and said he told the then-Republican presidential nominee “at the start of the conversation .... that Mexico will not pay for the wall.”
Peña Nieto and his party are in big trouble now with the Energy Reform and the fuel prices increase. Besides, there will be president elections next year
If Trump and his allies get their way, a vote in Congress to appropriate money for the construction of a wall could be held as early as April, when Congress will face a showdown over a must-pass spending bill. It’s very unlikely that Democrats will support a spending package that includes billions of additional dollars for a wall, however.
Huffingtonpost.com
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If I were American I would not be worried about Trump's wall I would be interested in the health care for the people, the working people.
''In April 2016 trumpy outlined how trade tariffs, visa cancellations, increased border crossing fees, and a ban on cash remittances from Mexicans living in the U.S. could be used to either compel the Mexican government to pay for the wall, or collect the necessary money from them over time.
Trump has also taken pains to explain how constructing a solid border wall would directly benefit Mexico/.quote “No one wins in either country when human smugglers and drug traffickers prey on innocent people,”
Trumpy also said the wall will start from day one...there is still money in the treasury from 06 sitting there to get the project back on track. WE VOTED FOR THIS 11 YEARS AGO AND THE PROJECT WAS STALLED BY NEOCONS AND HOMEGROWN COMMIES. but the law is still on the books, ready to be implemented.
crazy edit... i have said over and over that the money laundering dope banks launder over 350 billion a year in Mexican cartel money...this is a very soft target and one that will be utilized...I'm tellin you now that the new DOJ will be looking at this very closely
Secure Fence Act of 2006 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Great Seal of the United States Long title An Act To establish operational control over the international land and maritime borders of the United States. Introduced in the House as H.R. 6061 by Peter T. King (R-NY) on September 13, 2006 Committee consideration by House Homeland Security Passed the House on September 14, 2006 (283–138, 1 Present) Passed the Senate on September 29, 2006 (80–19) Signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2006
The US-Mexico border fence near El Paso, Texas. The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles (1,100 km) of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles.
On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform."
The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY). In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283 -138 on September 14, 2006. On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80 -19.
The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border. Additionally, the law authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting as well as authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce infrastructure at the border. Congress approved $1.2 billion in a separate homeland security spending bill to bankroll the fence, though critics say this is $4.8 billion less than what’s likely needed to get it built.
Proponents of the bill believe that it will diminish vehicle transport of illegal immigrants, encouraging those who want to enter the country to pursue legal channels or cover potentially hundreds of miles on foot and overcome a difficult obstacle. This should decrease the number of apprehensions of illegal immigrants, by physically reducing their numbers. It could also diminish the illegal drug trade pouring into the US from Mexico as well as provide additional protection from terrorist entry into the country.
Opponents of the bill argue that it is not an effective strategy to curb illegal immigration because the fence is not a continuous barrier and can be climbed over or dug under in some areas. They also argue that it could harm US-Mexico relations, disrupt the environment and natural migration of wildlife, as well as increase the danger and risk of illegal immigrants attempting to cross the border. Further, opponents argue that because of the increased risk of crossing the border, illegal immigrants who previously pursued seasonal work and then returned home may have to bring their families and live permanently in the country.
Since construction of the wall began “apprehensions, a rough proxy for measuring illegal crossings, were down 18% at the southern border in 2008 and Border Patrol attributes some of that to the fence. But a report in May 2009 by the Congressional Research Service found "strong indication" that illegal crossers had simply found new routes.”
''In April 2016 trumpy outlined how trade tariffs, visa cancellations, increased border crossing fees, and a ban on cash remittances from Mexicans living in the U.S. could be used to either compel the Mexican government to pay for the wall, or collect the necessary money from them over time.
Trump has also taken pains to explain how constructing a solid border wall would directly benefit Mexico/.quote “No one wins in either country when human smugglers and drug traffickers prey on innocent people,”
Trumpy also said the wall will start from day one...there is still money in the treasury from 06 sitting there to get the project back on track. WE VOTED FOR THIS 11 YEARS AGO AND THE PROJECT WAS STALLED BY NEOCONS AND HOMEGROWN COMMIES. but the law is still on the books, ready to be implemented.
crazy edit... i have said over and over that the money laundering dope banks launder over 350 billion a year in Mexican cartel money...this is a very soft target and one that will be utilized...I'm tellin you now that the new DOJ will be looking at this very closely
Problem with payment by tariffs is that tariffs will be a two way process. US goods exports to Mexico are around 270 billion each year. The US has a goods deficit but a services surplus. An overall deficit of about 30 billion is all.
Tariff Mexican imports and they will tariff US exports. So it goes... Similar with China too...
lifeisadream: If I were American I would not be worried about Trump's wall I would be interested in the health care for the people, the working people.
Happy New year Sista Callie!
Many blessings to you this New Year Life
Trump is a DECEIVER therefore, as deceivers are known to do... they make grand promises they know they can't keep just to influence control over the weak minded who believe in them as their savior and god without having proven one thing.
Yeats1980: Problem with payment by tariffs is that tariffs will be a two way process. US goods exports to Mexico are around 270 billion each year. The US has a goods deficit but a services surplus. An overall deficit of about 30 billion is all.
Tariff Mexican imports and they will tariff US exports. So it goes... Similar with China too...
Yeah, so am I wrong?... I think this may be called A TRADE WAR in the making. Contrary to American's popular belief, I think US needs Mexico more than Mexico needs US in many ways.
China owns our debt and can buy and sell US at will... now what? Trump doesn't have a clue as to how foreign policy or trade works... for him to be such GREAT so-called business man as he claims and his followers believe ... yet all his businesses that he has started... all his SIX businesses he personally owned have filed bankruptcy (six companies he owned are out of business). he is only property manager of the properties his name carries... that speaks volumes... .. Trump made his money ripping off people after he filed bankruptcy, and his followers think he is a great person looking out for them
SistaCallie: Yeah, so am I wrong?... I think this may be called A TRADE WAR in the making. Contrary to American's popular belief, I think US needs Mexico more than Mexico needs US in many ways.
China owns our debt and can buy and sell US at will... now what? Trump doesn't have a clue as to how foreign policy or trade works... for him to be such GREAT so-called business man as he claims and his followers believe ... yet all his businesses that he has started... all his SIX businesses he personally owned have filed bankruptcy (six companies he owned are out of business). he is only property manager of the properties his name carries... that speaks volumes... .. Trump made his money ripping off people after he filed bankruptcy, and his followers think he is a great person looking out for them
BTW will this tariff also apply to Trump's and Ivanka's brand clothing that are made in Mexico and China? And what about the impact on American consumers? We're already paying more for less product... I'm sure Trump's supporters can explain all of this import and export stuff THEIR MASTER TRUMPS SPEAKS..
I would also like to hear more about the great wall, since Crayon and the Trumpettes understand how Trump plans to do this, when even Congress doesn't understand... nor does Trump
''In April 2016 trumpy outlined how trade tariffs, visa cancellations, increased border crossing fees, and a ban on cash remittances from Mexicans living in the U.S. could be used to either compel the Mexican government to pay for the wall, or collect the necessary money from them over time.
Trump has also taken pains to explain how constructing a solid border wall would directly benefit Mexico/.quote “No one wins in either country when human smugglers and drug traffickers prey on innocent people,”
Trumpy also said the wall will start from day one...there is still money in the treasury from 06 sitting there to get the project back on track. WE VOTED FOR THIS 11 YEARS AGO AND THE PROJECT WAS STALLED BY NEOCONS AND HOMEGROWN COMMIES. but the law is still on the books, ready to be implemented.
crazy edit... i have said over and over that the money laundering dope banks launder over 350 billion a year in Mexican cartel money...this is a very soft target and one that will be utilized...I'm tellin you now that the new DOJ will be looking at this very closely
People fail to realize that we're not worried about exports. We did well before nafta because a larger part of our industries and work were centralized. Trade was done but negotiations per contract and not this open crap now where taxes, fines, and regulations are hiked on the citizens.
Employers competed to keep employees. Health care and retirement were incentives for people to work. Welfare was an embarrassment which drove more people to work. It helped but it wasn't a replacement for what a working income could do. It will be nice to be back to that. Pharmaceuticals will need to be addressed in a straight forward manner which will also greatly increase health care affordability for employers and self employed.
Lifting EPA regulations and even cutting back government employment will also help a great deal There are already companies starting to back track on their "job relocations" because it won't be so cheap to bring it back into the U.S. Tariffs and other costs WILL pay for that wall whether people recognize or like it or not. It doesn't matter if it's the U.S. economy expanding to avoid the import costs or companies thinking the import costs won't matter, it's going to happen at the expense of other places. It's already been set up since 2006 at the least and should already have been done as it is. It works both ways when it comes to negatives like human and drug trafficking with a whole lot more.
I do believe import/export and IMF banks play major roles because they gain from the fat of loans and financing no matter if it's wars or economic "stimulus". I can't say how deep it goes but there's no way to deny it's there and happening.
You're right about much of the media and how it spins. It amazes me how many can't comprehend economics 101(especially if they're citizens). It amazes me how many think open borders and "free" trade help when it really might only help their areas while breaking down others. We're going to actually try getting back to America, it's laws, and it's citizens while it scares the hell out of many.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Bogart_1960: "China has a great wall, and guess what? No mexicans!"
Trump . The Donald
Not yet!
SistaCallie: Many blessings to you this New Year Life Thank you SistaCallie
Trump is a DECEIVER therefore, as deceivers are known to do... they make grand promises they know they can't keep just to influence control over the weak minded who believe in them as their savior and god without having proven one thing.
In fairness, Trump has not even being inaugurated President just wait to see what he will do or not do.
Although, Trump's doing politics and foreign affairs by twitter is rather not a smart approach and certainly not a diplomatic one.
If I were American I would be questioning Trump's stance on taxing the financial activities, didn't Trump said he was going to drain the "swamp"
" The six largest financial institutions in this country today hold assets equal to about 60% of the nation’s gross domestic product. These six banks issue more than two-thirds of all credit cards and over 35% of all mortgages. They control 95% of all derivatives and hold more than 40% of all bank deposits in the United States.
We must break up too-big-to-fail financial institutions. Those institutions received a $700 billion bailout from the US taxpayer, and more than $16 trillion in virtually zero interest loans from the Federal Reserve. Despite that, financial institutions made over $152 billion in profit in 2014 – the most profitable year on record, and three of the four largest financial institutions are 80% bigger today than they were before we bailed them out. ?
Our banking system must be part of the productive, job-creating economy. The Federal Reserve, a government entity which serves as the engine of the banking industry, must eliminate its internal conflicts of interest, provide stricter oversight, and insist that the banks serve the economy in a way that works for everyone, not just a few."
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Capricorn143: If not directly, then indirectly .
How many jobs has Mexico lost recently because an American company decided to build a plant in the US not in Mexico as planned before?
Do you really believe that business people will do as Trump says? Businesspeople will keep some of the investment in USA and they will make sure the media says so but will continue investing in other countries -not only México- as long as they get the maximum profit of it.
If you were a business person what would you do? Investing in USA were wages are 10 times higher than in other places + benefits...etc..?
Will apple will bring its jobs to USA? People have to be naïve in believing Trump, that Trum will make business people to bring the jobs to USA. Just as Trump's son in law making business with the Chinese.
The Fiat Chrysler announcement comes on the heels of Ford’s recent announcement that it has cancelled plans to build a $1.7 billion plant in Mexico and will instead expand operations in Wayne Michigan.
YEP, Mexico is Paying...they just lost the Chrysler deal/factory and 2000 more Jobs...
They were to manufacture the new Jeep line but decided the worsening geopolitical scene in ol' me-hico would not be as advantageous as the logistics and parts producers already in the US that's already set up to produce this...WINNING!!! left click to see complete image.
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BTW, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A BLAME- TRUMP-wall. There will be a completion of what was started in 2006 or 2009 I think that was the year... but no grand Trump wall. So far all his campaign promises are lies and have fallen by the wayside as he is continuously changing his childish mentally-ill mind faster then he changes his draws
Donald Trump Admits U.S. Taxpayers Will Pay For The Wall, Claims Mexico Will Reimburse Costs
This doesn’t sound like his campaign promise.
01/06/2017 09:00 am ET | Updated 20 hours ago
Christina Wilkie
White House reporter, The Huffington Post
President-elect Donald Trump said on Friday that he intends for U.S. taxpayers to fund the construction of his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. That money, Trump tweeted, “will be paid back by Mexico later!”
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
The dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later!
5:19 AM - 6 Jan 2017
The tweet Trump wrote on Friday morning followed multiple reports detailing how members of his transition team have been working with congressional Republicans to come up with a way to use taxpayer dollars to pay for building the wall.
Trump claimed he needed to use congressionally appropriated funds to build “the Great Wall for sake of speed.”
But making U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for the border wall would violate one of Trump’s central campaign promises, and a pledge that Trump reiterated at countless rallies, when he would ask the crowds, “Who’s gonna pay for the wall?!” and get chants of “Mexico! Mexico! Mexico!”
Trump first suggested that Mexico might reimburse the United States for the wall during a speech in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, in October. But that comment alone did little to change the yearlong narrative about how Mexico would pay for the wall, exemplified by tweets like this one.
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
Mexico will pay for the wall!
5:31 AM - 1 Sep 2016
Neither Trump nor his transition team have explained how Trump might go about trying to force a sovereign nation like Mexico to fork over billions of dollars for a domestic building project it opposes.
The president-elect plans to keep talking to Mexico about how the country will pay for the wall, Trump spokesman Sean Spicer said Friday. “Whether it’s through tariffs or a direct check, he’ll talk to them about it,” Spicer said.
But Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto clearly doesn’t think there’s anything to talk about. He met with Trump this fall, and said he told the then-Republican presidential nominee “at the start of the conversation .... that Mexico will not pay for the wall.”
If Trump and his allies get their way, a vote in Congress to appropriate money for the construction of a wall could be held as early as April, when Congress will face a showdown over a must-pass spending bill. It’s very unlikely that Democrats will support a spending package that includes billions of additional dollars for a wall, however.
Huffingtonpost.com
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