Power surge.

so I'm no electrician, I do however understand a little about how power works. So today on the farm, apart from the usual chores I was set the task of finding shorts in particular electric fences in some areas of the farm. I've finally worked out with a little help from Pa what all the different numbers on the fence tester mean. Believe me its very helpful to have this information! I travel rather long distances, some parts by motorbike others by foot and to my dismay it took a good couple of hours to find the main problem. The sad thing about this tale is.... whilst I was spraying ragwart earlier today I'd walked right passed the problem without even noticing!!!! Even tested the fence not far away!!!!!doh

Anyway all fixed now ready for all the cattle to workout how they can be smart and a little nimble and get out through all these electrics...however I am still trying to work one thing out. How does a single wire running around the outside of a farm go from 4 amp to 2amp without a single short to be found?????confused

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Distance or amount of current volts + the square on the hypotonuse...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing help wow bouquet
A better electrician than me may be neededrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing drinking drinking wow bouquet
one thing may be to consider is resistance of wire, loose connectormay be, and other may be open weather when there is possibleility of leackage through installation.
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then again i may be competely wrong regards to your site,
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Please always follow, safety proccedure.
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i hope tis will help.
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grin , on other hand, if you send me a air ticket i will be able chack it for free,, laugh ,handshake
crazychook,
there is 2 reason for that.
1- a leakage.
2- someone is using your electricitywow wine
it only takes one blade of grass to cut the voltage , when I use to milk cows the only tester for the electric fences was a short pice of grass and touch it to the live wire and feel the resistance tingle till the fault can be found

banana
Hi again, thinking back, i have realise and as i have seen many places, specially aggriculture, over lond distance often people or elctrician make joint in wire and over the period of time it become a dry joint [ in elctronic it mean joint with lot's of resistance ], to solve this you may have to tighten such joints if there is any, or for best result making new joint and then seal it with insulation for weather effect.
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@dude

a dry joint and the resistance of the wire will not cause loss of charge (i.e. current in will still equal current out) ... it definately ain't the issue.
The problem lays in youre powersupply... Check that first.cool wine
Sorry my friend, confused ,
are we forgeting OHM's LAW.
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Please think, you may have probebly have same voltage at other end [ OFF=LOAD ] but you may not get current.
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then again my experties are not in agriculture field anyway, so i may be wrong completely as i said early.
I tricked my cousin to pee at the el-fence one time... Interesting reacktion...cool wine
@dude

by the principle of conservation of charge (aka Kirchove's current laws), current into a node (in this case, the wire) is equal to the current out of the node (i.e. the wire) ... that is irrelevant if the impedance of the node ....

the chic is right in saying that 4 amperes in, 4 amperes out is what we should get! .. assuming no loads (or rather, no intentional loads) are connected on the wire)



dunno
No wonder you chose to called yourself crazychook...lady don't play electrician...call the expertsprofessor
well, electric fences can easily be tested - just pee on them grin
I did - once - god almighty, I came close at becoming a eunuch !
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oh, for you my fair - I may do it again if you hold my hand blushing
grin
well, I do not know how long the wire or power-line is. If it is not too long you could connect an insulated wire instead and test again.
@crazy - First... have to mention... you've found a topic that brings the guys together laugh (so far, only men have commented)

I'll defer to the resident engineer (10k) but will pose this question... Over a long enough run (lots of fence posts) wouldn't some current find it's way to ground (literally)?

It would seem that some current get's out of the wire into each fence post (and into the ground)... a very small amount... but perhaps this adds up to an expected 'normal loss per 100 posts' (or something like this). dunno
- well, I have no idea where you read the 2 or 4 amps, which is not correct, imo. That is just a too high value. However, it may be what the transformer-thing draws. Why I say "thing", is because they mostly use a pulse circuit. It may be similar to an ignition coil. There are several possible reasons why it may draw less current. Dryer weather, for example. Read the user manual. Contact certified help if something is very wrong, as there are special laws/regulation involving animals.
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The easiest way put the cows on a tread mill make your own electic. Its a win win thing. Free electic an fit cows. Bcause the cows are not in the fields you wont need the motorbike , an you you can hang your welly boots up.rolling on the floor laughing
Gee...sure is a lot of guys interested in electricity from the looks of things...

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Especially when the OP is a woman!
I though the 'older' guys where supposed to be the gents in here... dunno
Ledz...And feed them OHMS Law instead of hay,I suppose???And make even more savings!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing help cheers
If you found shorts in your fence, best to find out who they belong to laugh
most welcome.. tip hat
My goodness its all geek talks
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