JESUS NEVER DIED ON THE CROSS..2

But he had learned his lesson. He had dropped the idea of being the only begotten son of God; otherwise these Jews would crucify him too. He dropped the idea of being a messiah. He lived with his few intimate friends and followers in Pahalgam.

Pahalgam is named after Jesus, because he used to call himself "the shepherd" -- Pahalgam means "the town of the shepherd." So it was a small colony of Jesus and his friends, surrounding the grave of their forefather and the founder of Judaic tradition. Jesus remained a Jew to the very end; he never heard about Christianity.

But the followers who were left in Judea managed to create the story of resurrection. And there was no way to prove it this way or that. Neither could they produce Jesus -- if he was resurrected then where was he? Nor could the other party prove what had happened. They had put such a big rock on the mouth of the cave that it was impossible for Jesus to have removed it, and there was a Roman soldier on duty twenty-four hours, so there was no possibility of anybody else removing the rock and taking the body.

But because Pontius Pilate was from the very beginning against crucifying Jesus.... He could see the man was absolutely innocent. He has some crazy ideas, but they are not criminal. And what harm does it do to somebody? If someone thinks he is the only begotten son of God, let him enjoy it. Why disturb him, and why get disturbed? If somebody thinks he is the messiah and he has brought the message of God... if you want to listen, listen; if you don't want to listen, don't listen. But there is no need to crucify the man.

But Jesus learned his lesson -- learned the hard way. In Kashmir he lived very silently with his group, praying, living peacefully, no longer trying to change the world. And Kashmir was so far away from Judea that in Judea the story of resurrection, amongst the followers of Jesus, became significant.

So I say a kind of resurrection certainly happened -- it was a conspiracy more than a resurrection. But certainly Jesus did not die on the cross, he did not die in the cave where he was put; he lived long enough.
......................... OSHO.....
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oh and by the way , who died on the cross then?
in 'The Life of Brian' it was Brian, that was Crucified, but that was Monty Python's, verdict, always look on the bright side of life, whatever your belief system, laugh
My friend, when I read your comments my heart went out to you. Surely, God is speaking to your heart about His Son, Jesus. Jesus, Himself, said in Scripture that He is the only true Way to the Father. In a direct quote He said: "I am the Way the truth and the life." There is no other way to heaven and to the Father, but through Christ. God gave His Son to redeem us from our sins. Read John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life." It was necessary for God, the Son, to become one of us, and live a perfect life without sin, so He could go to the cross as the "sinless Lamb of God" so that our sins could be laid upon Him. Then, by accepting what He did for us on the cross, we too, will be saved.
Sure, He went through much torture, beatings, and undescribable
pain, but what really killed Him on the cross was your sins and mine, and the sins of the world, past, present, and future. The Roman Soldiers were surprised that He died in a few hours. Usually when a man was crucified it took several days for him to die, but Jesus, my friend, died rather quickly due to your sins and mine being laid upon Him so you and I can be with Him in heaven forever. There would be no hope without Christ. No other religion offers salvation. Salvation comes only through our Wonderful Saviours' death and resurrection. He is coming again very soon. Are you ready my friend to meet Him? It is my prayer that you open your heart to Him. Read John 3:16. Just say: "Jesus come into my heart...I believe You died for me on the
cross to give me eternal life. I accept You and what You did for me." My friend, I dare you to do this. When you do, watch what God will accomplish through your life. He is waiting for you.
Jim
OH Ya. As for the Borg. Well, too bad, the Hounds got him in the graveyard. I think the folks then began calling him Dracula , something like that. IS'N THAT TRUE . .. I guess.
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well, the Borg stories can look a bit horrid roll eyes but still fiction cool
great to see you hug I hope all fine with you daisy
I feel the same about you and don't mind showing ithug hugGreat to have you here kiss
I don't know Jesus through Christian theology; I know him directly. And my knowing is that he cannot talk in terms of sacrifice -- first thing, the very first. A man like Jesus does not talk in terms of sacrifice; it is celebration, not sacrifice. He is going to meet his God dancing, singing. It is not sacrifice; he is not a martyr. The Christian church tries to make him the greatest martyr, the greatest man who has sacrificed himself for the salvation of the world from the sins of man. In the first place it is not sacrifice -- sacrifice looks business-like -- it is celebration! Jesus is celebrating his life and his death.

Secondly: nobody can solve the problems of others, nobody can be the salvation of the world. And you can see it: the world is still the same. Twenty centuries have passed and Christian priests go on talking nonsense, that he sacrificed himself for the salvation of the world. But where is the salvation of the world? Either he failed, he could not manage... that they cannot accept, that he failed. Then what happened? The world seems to be exactly the same -- nothing has changed! Humanity remains in the same misery. But Jesus cannot have said, I have come for the salvation of the world....owlsway...frnds wait for second blog plz
Leave it to a buddhist huh laugh Buddhism is a religion started by some guy named Sidhartha Guatama or something like that. He was a of the Hindu faith. Buddhism is a made up religion started by a Hinduist laugh Why would anybody follow it. Bowing before a statue of buuddha? Are you kidding me? Sidartha believed that it was the practice of bowing before gods that made people suffer in this world. If he witnessed a person doing that, he would loath the idea laugh
These words you will surely hear again........wow
come to india my frnds nd i will prove that i'm saying it's true.
In the hands of a meditative person words can become of infinite value, because they can be indicators. But in the hands of non-meditators words are dangerous, very dangerous, because the spirit is completely missed and one starts believing in the hollow, empty word, and one starts following the word.

That is what is happening to the Christians, to the Hindus, to the Mohammedans, to the Jainas, to the Buddhists -- all are believers in words. Somebody believes in the Koran and somebody in the Gita and somebody in the Bible, and they ALL are missing the spirit. Because to know the spirit of the Bible, you will have to come to certain inner spaces where you become acquainted with Moses, with Jesus.... Unless you have a direct, inner contact with Moses and Jesus you will not understand the Bible.
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