Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making ( Archived) (32)

Mar 12, 2009 12:00 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
The unrest in the Mid east has come to southeast asia now . Due to the vested interests of the west the Pakstan is in the brink of collapse .and Jihadis are taking part by part of the country The US could only spread the Taliban to the Pak ,The Taliban is about the capture Peshawar and Rawalpindi and soon Islamabad . Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule.destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?
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Mar 12, 2009 12:03 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
bollywood: The unrest in the Mid east has come to southeast asia now . Due to the vested interests of the west the Pakstan is in the brink of collapse .and Jihadis are taking part by part of the country The US could only spread the Taliban to the Pak ,The Taliban is about the capture Peshawar and Rawalpindi and soon Islamabad . Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule.destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?



Personally...I really am beyond caring!!thumbs down
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Mar 12, 2009 12:18 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
bollywood: The unrest in the Mid east has come to southeast asia now . Due to the vested interests of the west the Pakstan is in the brink of collapse .and Jihadis are taking part by part of the country The US could only spread the Taliban to the Pak ,The Taliban is about the capture Peshawar and Rawalpindi and soon Islamabad . Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule.destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?


Peace will only come when all those invoved want it.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:22 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
Drewski
DrewskiDrewskiOlds, Alberta Canada9 Threads 343 Posts
bollywood: The unrest in the Mid east has come to southeast asia now . Due to the vested interests of the west the Pakstan is in the brink of collapse .and Jihadis are taking part by part of the country The US could only spread the Taliban to the Pak ,The Taliban is about the capture Peshawar and Rawalpindi and soon Islamabad . Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule.destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?


Is it considered by yourself that Pakistan is better off under the rule of groups such as the Taliban? I think that most are more in favor with their system of government so, in essence, their interests are the same as the West's.

As for who won the 'so called war on terror' it is still far from over however, civilization is winning it. When it is won, there will be peace.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:28 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
bollywood: The unrest in the Mid east has come to southeast asia now . Due to the vested interests of the west the Pakstan is in the brink of collapse .and Jihadis are taking part by part of the country The US could only spread the Taliban to the Pak ,The Taliban is about the capture Peshawar and Rawalpindi and soon Islamabad . Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule.destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?


Actually Taliban's chapter is closed now and they made ceas fire themself in the region they are failed in their aim to spread the talibanisation in the pakistan,becoz the centre or base of talban's is not in pakistran,we can say it is a victory of the pakistani forces
the war is in afghanistan not in pakistan , pakistani nation and govt is independent,if pakistan fought against the taliban it was for the peace of the world ,it was in the favour of the world as well in the favour of pakistan,you cannot compare the mid east wth asia.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:29 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
bollywood: Who won the so called war on terror ? US and Western world has created one more nation for Taliban to rule. Destabilizing the complete region When will we see the peace in this region ?


I think the Taliban were moving in that direction no matter what.

But your question is justified - how to get locals to rise up against that challenge, that is the pressing issue.

When you ask them, they will answer "but how, we have nothing to put against it!”

Then someone finally sends those troops and muscles. What happens then? Well, we know too well what happened. Look at your own words…

In the end the reaction becomes: "Who gives a f*ck?"

What would you rather see done? Reinstate of the Taliban rule in Afghanistan and let them be the energy source for a huge amount of aggressions towards peaceful groups, or finally getting Pakistan AND India's governments down at the table and make it a common cause to fight off these oppressing groups together?

The attacks on Indian soil lately were not performed by the Pakistan state, for sure. So who did?

?

??

???

sad flower
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Mar 12, 2009 12:34 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
mrali: Actually Taliban's chapter is closed now and they made ceas fire themself in the region they are failed in their aim to spread the talibanisation in the pakistan,becoz the centre or base of talban's is not in pakistran,we can say it is a victory of the pakistani forces
the war is in afghanistan not in pakistan , pakistani nation and govt is independent,if pakistan fought against the taliban it was for the peace of the world ,it was in the favour of the world as well in the favour of pakistan,you cannot compare the mid east wth asia.


Friend What is the scene across the border ? Do you think this long march will end up in Army taking over the democratic goverment ? Kayani is former ISI chief and army take over means more ISI and more ISI means more pro -Jihadi activities ? .I am sure Zardari was doing a far better job than Mushraff
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Mar 12, 2009 12:36 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
The attacks on Indian soil lately were not performed by the Pakistan state, for sure. So who did?

Certianlly not by the democratic Pakistani Goverment . but the ISI hand cannot be ruled out . the goverment has no control on ISI.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:42 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
bollywood: but the ISI hand cannot be ruled out . the goverment has no control on ISI.


So how would one get control of them, and where do they enrol people for use in their actions?

India and Pakistan are two powerful countries. A Afghanistan is not really likely in Pakistan, and if the two nations could work together (many bridges to cross, I know) the area would boom itself up the scale in a way we've never seen before.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:43 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
mike69spain: if the two nations could work together (many bridges to cross, I know) the area would boom itself up the scale in a way we've never seen before.


The two nations = India and Pakistan, sorry about that...
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Mar 12, 2009 12:47 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
bollywood: Friend What is the scene across the border ? Do you think this long march will end up in Army taking over the democratic goverment ? Kayani is former ISI chief and army take over means more ISI and more ISI means more pro -Jihadi activities ? .I am sure Zardari was doing a far better job than Mushraff


brother this long march is pakistan's interior political issue and the army will not take over the Government ever untill zardari is president also peoples party has a strong base and it has a Good resposne by few other major parties,the situation is in afghanistan where is a hard task for the usa and nato not for pakistan,pakistan is only working for the peace of the world and safrifying itself.
yes, zardari is an elected president he is better than mushraff.
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Mar 12, 2009 12:51 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
bollywood: The attacks on Indian soil lately were not performed by the Pakistan state, for sure. So who did?

Certianlly not by the democratic Pakistani Goverment . but the ISI hand cannot be ruled out . the goverment has no control on ISI.


ISI is not involved in the attack,it was a pure terrorism activity.the ISI is under control of Army and the army is under control of democratic party and the president
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Mar 12, 2009 12:53 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
mike69spain: The two nations = India and Pakistan, sorry about that...


A few decades back we were one nation . People still share the strong bond . division of India was an hisoric nessecity for the british empire and carved out Pakistan .The world is a safer place if the west keep the foot out of it . The same thing happend in the Mideast when the Israel was created out of Arab land and if you look at it .these too region suffer because of this .
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Mar 12, 2009 1:07 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
It's absolutely clear that the Taliban are now winners in all sectors of this Poker Game.
Some would claim,

They get funded by America to play "Bad Boys"

They get funded by Tribal Leaders to play "Good Boys"

They get funded by Pakistan to play "Mystery Boys"

They get funded by World Demand to play "Opium Boys"

Meanwhile the majority of the people in The Northwest
Territories are just unwilling 'pawns in the game'

If the Taliban do create a stronghold in Peshawar,
Pindi and Islamabad, Afghanistan will become just
a side issue with Pakistan becoming the focus of
'the war on terror'
There are some who would see this as a desirable
development in the further destabilization of this
volatile area.


sigh
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Mar 12, 2009 3:24 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
bodleing: There are some who would see this as a desirable
development in the further destabilization of this
volatile area.


Am I reading what I think you are writing here?

detective
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Mar 12, 2009 4:18 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
mike69spain: Am I reading what I think you are writing here?


As opposed to?



dunno
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Mar 12, 2009 4:19 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
bodleing: As opposed to?


Not opposed to, but as in " India is gaining too much weight on the international arena".
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Mar 12, 2009 4:29 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
what ever goes on in the world, I have lost interest in. America has it's own set of problems right now. Let Asia take care of themselves, let the Mid-east take care of themselves.

I just want our soldiers back on American soil, protect OUR borders from the Mexicans(my heritage), but mostly from those dreaded Canadians!!rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 12, 2009 4:33 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
pretzelman: what ever goes on in the world, I have lost interest in. America has it's own set of problems right now. Let Asia take care of themselves, let the Mid-east take care of themselves.

I just want our soldiers back on American soil, protect OUR borders from the Mexicans(my heritage), but mostly from those dreaded Canadians!!


A census shared by many and right so.

We have enough back home to spend our energy on for rescue. I do not know about the Canadians though, as we are sending a tow boat there to pull it over to here.

laugh
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Mar 12, 2009 4:48 PM CST Troubles in Pakistan - One more Afganistan in the making
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
pretzelman: what ever goes on in the world, I have lost interest in. America has it's own set of problems right now. Let Asia take care of themselves, let the Mid-east take care of themselves.

I just want our soldiers back on American soil, protect OUR borders from the Mexicans(my heritage), but mostly from those dreaded Canadians!!


Yes we are a big threat to the U.S.....We'll have you spelling like us and saying eh before ya know it..It's all part of integration and assimilation process of the U.S. for when it becomes Canadian soil.....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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