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Mar 14, 2009 11:30 AM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
GirlWednesday: Re 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.






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Mar 14, 2009 12:41 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
trish123: I need my children to undersatand, not to obey............


wow Oh, dear, Trish...I think you revealed more than you intended here!wow laugh
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Mar 14, 2009 1:37 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
Don't have time for the video - not loading, could you write the questions.
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Mar 14, 2009 4:42 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
StressFree: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ&feature=related

Discuss and roll up them sleeves...


The prayer bit is perfectly rational:

'Where two or more are gathered in my name and pray'

People pray out loud.

A. N. Other hears the prayer and, being a good Christian helps make it happen!

Perfectly logical - and some even know good surgeons who can now transplant a limb!
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Mar 14, 2009 4:43 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
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Mar 14, 2009 5:37 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts

7. Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence? It’s quite strange. All we really have is a book compiled 200 years after his death, written mostly by people who never met him.

Bodies have a tendency to decay upon death! The fact that they were written down by 4 different gospel writers and they all match up perfectly speaks volumes! Why do you think the police seperate people when questioning them? To see if their stories match up and catch you in a lie. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John would have been found innocent!


8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you? If he’s all-powerful and timeless, why wait for a second-coming?

He appeared to Saul, one of the most famous conversions in the bible! You can't tempt him. He's not going to appear to an unbeliever for their own jollies.


9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood? If you actually consider this for a second, it sounds more Satanic than Christian. And no, if you are Catholic as opposed to a derivative such as an Anglican, you believe that you are really consuming Jesus’ flesh and blood.

It is a figure of speech. It is taking communion. He is the bread of life. You feed on the word. Only the Catholics have the strange belief that the wafer actually becomes flesh.


10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians? “What God has put together, let no man put asunder”. But it happens regardless.

People have a sinful nature and get influenced by culture. Many claim to be Christian, but if not following the bible are they really?


This was too easy. Tougher questions please.professor
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Mar 14, 2009 7:52 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
norslyman: 7. Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence? It’s quite strange. All we really have is a book compiled 200 years after his death, written mostly by people who never met him.

Bodies have a tendency to decay upon death! The fact that they were written down by 4 different gospel writers and they all match up perfectly speaks volumes! Why do you think the police seperate people when questioning them? To see if their stories match up and catch you in a lie. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John would have been found innocent!8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you? If he’s all-powerful and timeless, why wait for a second-coming?

He appeared to Saul, one of the most famous conversions in the bible! You can't tempt him. He's not going to appear to an unbeliever for their own jollies.9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood? If you actually consider this for a second, it sounds more Satanic than Christian. And no, if you are Catholic as opposed to a derivative such as an Anglican, you believe that you are really consuming Jesus’ flesh and blood.

It is a figure of speech. It is taking communion. He is the bread of life. You feed on the word. Only the Catholics have the strange belief that the wafer actually becomes flesh.10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians? “What God has put together, let no man put asunder”. But it happens regardless.

People have a sinful nature and get influenced by culture. Many claim to be Christian, but if not following the bible are they really?This was too easy. Tougher questions please.


Like the 10 Questions author said - "Silly rationalizations."roll eyes
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Mar 14, 2009 7:53 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
norslyman: The fact that they were written down by 4 different gospel writers and they all match up perfectly speaks volumes! .
Have you been reading some secret bible that no one else knows about because the Christian bible is full of contradictions and in no way does the four gospels match up perfectly
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Mar 15, 2009 12:12 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
Yes, you will find the same miracles in each gospel. But it is much more incredible than that. Let's compare the writers of the bible to the writers of say the ongoing James Bond movie series and see how difficult a consistent storyline really is! This doesn't even take into account fulfilled prophecy.



The Biblical canon was formed over a period of 1500 years. They've only been making James Bond movies since the early 1960s (1963: Dr. No).

Approximately 40 men were inspired to record the Word of God. They had no e-mail, no faxes, no phones. Imagine trying to pull together a project like this over a 1500-year period. In contrast, the producers of the many official James Bond movies had not only met, but fully corroborated in developing what became known as the 'Bonded Line,' the true pedigree of an official Bond film.

Other films that have the character James Bond in them aren't considered a part of the continuing series. They don't feature the official trappings of the original bloodline, i.e. the gun barrel graphic opening, John Barry's jazzy theme music, and so forth.

The Bible portrays an incredibly consistent picture of the Messiah throughout all 66 of its Books.


But try lining Sean Connery up beside David Niven. George Lazenby was so unconvincing in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), that they gave the role back to Connery in 1971. And then there was Timothy Dalton. Talk about variance.

James Bond is a fictitious figure, able to be bent (to an extent) to suit the producer's fancy. Jesus was/is a recognized historical figure. Biblical characterizations of Him, in order to be credible, have/had to conform to the accounts of unbiased historians.

The James Bond fans are just that—fans—in it for the fun. Not exactly analogous to the followers of Jesus who all alike gave up their possessions, their homes, and even their lives because they believed the absolute accuracy of the Biblical record.

Contrast the alleged contradictions in the Biblical record with the well-established contradictions in the James Bond story, i.e. the “movie” Bond attended Cambridge University where he studied Oriental languages (You Only Live Twice), at clear variance with the James Bond in the novels.

Learn more...The 40 authors of Scripture never sat down to script fiction for profit, which is exactly what the producers of the James Bond movies did.

Contrast the historic harmony of the Biblical authors with the James Bond screenwriters who once (Dec. 1997) actually sued the producers of the 007 films over film-related issues.
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Mar 15, 2009 12:18 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
Maybe you should start worshipping James Bond rolling on the floor laughing .

Just what do you think the inspiration for the writers of the Bible was? Pretty immense practical joke. And not even alive to see the results of that joke? Most jokes are say 2,3 lines. Maybe a paragraph at most.professor
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Mar 15, 2009 12:28 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
norslyman: Maybe you should start worshipping James Bond .

Just what do you think the inspiration for the writers of the Bible was? Pretty immense practical joke. And not even alive to see the results of that joke? Most jokes are say 2,3 lines. Maybe a paragraph at most.


Crop circles are a pretty immense practical joke. dunno Bored farmers I guess. laugh doh
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Mar 15, 2009 1:01 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
norslyman: Yes, you will find the same miracles in each gospel. But it is much more incredible than that. Let's compare the writers of the bible to the writers of say the ongoing James Bond movie series and see how difficult a consistent storyline really is! This doesn't even take into account fulfilled prophecy.



The Biblical canon was formed over a period of 1500 years. They've only been making James Bond movies since the early 1960s (1963: Dr. No).

Approximately 40 men were inspired to record the Word of God. They had no e-mail, no faxes, no phones. Imagine trying to pull together a project like this over a 1500-year period. In contrast, the producers of the many official James Bond movies had not only met, but fully corroborated in developing what became known as the 'Bonded Line,' the true pedigree of an official Bond film.

Other films that have the character James Bond in them aren't considered a part of the continuing series. They don't feature the official trappings of the original bloodline, i.e. the gun barrel graphic opening, John Barry's jazzy theme music, and so forth.

The Bible portrays an incredibly consistent picture of the Messiah throughout all 66 of its Books.


But try lining Sean Connery up beside David Niven. George Lazenby was so unconvincing in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), that they gave the role back to Connery in 1971. And then there was Timothy Dalton. Talk about variance.

James Bond is a fictitious figure, able to be bent (to an extent) to suit the producer's fancy. Jesus was/is a recognized historical figure. Biblical characterizations of Him, in order to be credible, have/had to conform to the accounts of unbiased historians.

The James Bond fans are just that—fans—in it for the fun. Not exactly analogous to the followers of Jesus who all alike gave up their possessions, their homes, and even their lives because they believed the absolute accuracy of the Biblical record.

Contrast the alleged contradictions in the Biblical record with the well-established contradictions in the James Bond story, i.e. the “movie” Bond attended Cambridge University where he studied Oriental languages (You Only Live Twice), at clear variance with the James Bond in the novels.

Learn more...The 40 authors of Scripture never sat down to script fiction for profit, which is exactly what the producers of the James Bond movies did.

Contrast the historic harmony of the Biblical authors with the James Bond screenwriters who once (Dec. 1997) actually sued the producers of the 007 films over film-related issues.


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Mar 15, 2009 1:03 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Ambrose2007: Oh, dear, Trish...I think you revealed more than you intended here!


grin possibly, Ambrose, possibly rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 15, 2009 1:20 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
llfrfgt
llfrfgtllfrfgtmichigan, Michigan USA4 Threads 485 Posts
maybe we're al right and then maybe not, if i believe or not in a creator, god or whatever thats my concern i won't debate it either way, i would let you know how or what i believe and if you were to base your opinion of me based only on that you could be missing out on something really good, like a decent kind loving friend, there is something in the universe thats beyond any of our comprehension, i will seek truth and that starts from within, and others can do as they will. happiness and friendship
for you, and a great life.angel
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Mar 15, 2009 1:47 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
norslyman: Yes, you will find the same miracles in each gospel. But it is much more incredible than that. Let's compare the writers of the bible to the writers of say the ongoing James Bond movie series and see how difficult a consistent storyline really is! This doesn't even take into account fulfilled prophecy.



The Biblical canon was formed over a period of 1500 years. They've only been making James Bond movies since the early 1960s (1963: Dr. No).

Approximately 40 men were inspired to record the Word of God. They had no e-mail, no faxes, no phones. Imagine trying to pull together a project like this over a 1500-year period. In contrast, the producers of the many official James Bond movies had not only met, but fully corroborated in developing what became known as the 'Bonded Line,' the true pedigree of an official Bond film.

Other films that have the character James Bond in them aren't considered a part of the continuing series. They don't feature the official trappings of the original bloodline, i.e. the gun barrel graphic opening, John Barry's jazzy theme music, and so forth.

The Bible portrays an incredibly consistent picture of the Messiah throughout all 66 of its Books.


But try lining Sean Connery up beside David Niven. George Lazenby was so unconvincing in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), that they gave the role back to Connery in 1971. And then there was Timothy Dalton. Talk about variance.

James Bond is a fictitious figure, able to be bent (to an extent) to suit the producer's fancy. Jesus was/is a recognized historical figure. Biblical characterizations of Him, in order to be credible, have/had to conform to the accounts of unbiased historians.

The James Bond fans are just that—fans—in it for the fun. Not exactly analogous to the followers of Jesus who all alike gave up their possessions, their homes, and even their lives because they believed the absolute accuracy of the Biblical record.

Contrast the alleged contradictions in the Biblical record with the well-established contradictions in the James Bond story, i.e. the “movie” Bond attended Cambridge University where he studied Oriental languages (You Only Live Twice), at clear variance with the James Bond in the novels.

Learn more...The 40 authors of Scripture never sat down to script fiction for profit, which is exactly what the producers of the James Bond movies did.

Contrast the historic harmony of the Biblical authors with the James Bond screenwriters who once (Dec. 1997) actually sued the producers of the 007 films over film-related issues.
Are you honestly trying to say that you cant see how hopelessly flawed your response is ????
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Mar 17, 2009 11:24 AM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
It is a very good argument. The writers of the movie series had a profit motive and they couldn't even keep a straight storyline.

Nobody has answered yet: Just what was the motivation behind the many different bible authors?
It wasn't for money.
Not fame.
And please explain how the Dead Sea Scrolls match up perfectly with other supposed works of fiction?
professor

Also, the Luciferian question. God IS going to do something about them. It's called the book of Revelation. But then people cry crying and say he's being to harsh! Make up your minds.
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Mar 17, 2009 12:28 PM CST 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
norslyman: It is a very good argument. .
No it’s not , it’s an horrendously flawed argument (although admittedly no where near as flawed as the bible)


norslyman: Nobody has answered yet: Just what was the motivation behind the many different bible authors?.

Power, superstition delusional belief , various forms of mental illness (particularly in rev)
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