How can you ever really know you are being duped? (17)

Mar 16, 2009 4:54 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
Good Evening,

I didn't dare ask this in the International Forums for fear of being ridiculed, but feel a bit safer asking y'all over here. I have often scoffed at the threads that ask about scammers etc. I always thought that if you are stupid enough to get scammed, then you are stupid enough to deserve to be scammed, but now I am beginning to wonder about the whole thing.

My problem is; I trust that what people say is the truth. Why would you bother to go the effort of speaking/typing if you are bullshi**ing...Why bother?

But, now I seem to be getting a bit paranoid....What are the typical signs of a scammer?

Will a scammer bother to chat with me every evening?
Will a scammer speak with me (phone etc.)

I do not like that I am even having these thoughts about people I get in touch with, but whenever I venture into the International Forum, I read the many threads on scammers and I begin to get paranoid.

I did meet a real person on this site and we dated. He wasn't a scammer in the long run (just a bit of an a**hole...). For the past little while, I have been communicating with someone who is very nice. Very nice. I think maybe too nice. And that is what is messin' with my mind. .
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How should I know? How can I know?
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Geez.....So much easier to just go to the bar and pick someone up......
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.That was a joke....blues

Tres fatigue maintenant....Off to bed...'Night night all...hug
Mar 16, 2009 5:21 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Imma, you sound paranoid....it's impossible to answer your question, or even discuss it without knowing the reasons why you even asked the question. Why do you have these fears? What about this new relationship is making you have doubts?...Lay out your grounds for your suspicion, and then we will be able to give you our opinions.

Second point:
Will a scammer bother to chat with me every evening?
Will a scammer speak with me (phone etc.)

Well, I suppose some people out there enjoy the sense of power, or control or sense of achievement they get by engineering themselves into someone's heart. If this person is that type of psycho, then the chase is all that they are interested in. The moment it comes to meeting up, and taking the relationship into the real world, they will disappear. So yes, I suppose there are many different types of scammers, not just the ones after your money.

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Mar 16, 2009 5:22 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
immanuelle: Good Evening,

I didn't dare ask this in the International Forums for fear of being ridiculed, but feel a bit safer asking y'all over here. I have often scoffed at the threads that ask about scammers etc. I always thought that if you are stupid enough to get scammed, then you are stupid enough to deserve to be scammed, but now I am beginning to wonder about the whole thing.

My problem is; I trust that what people say is the truth. Why would you bother to go the effort of speaking/typing if you are bullshi**ing...Why bother?

But, now I seem to be getting a bit paranoid....What are the typical signs of a scammer?

Will a scammer bother to chat with me every evening?
Will a scammer speak with me (phone etc.)

I do not like that I am even having these thoughts about people I get in touch with, but whenever I venture into the International Forum, I read the many threads on scammers and I begin to get paranoid.

I did meet a real person on this site and we dated. He wasn't a scammer in the long run (just a bit of an a**hole...). For the past little while, I have been communicating with someone who is very nice. Very nice. I think maybe too nice. And that is what is messin' with my mind. .
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How should I know? How can I know?
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Hey you...

Will they try to talk to you? Yes. They will want your mail address immediately. That being said, I have given out my mail to a few immediately and have never had a problem.

Don't get paranoid darling, people can only scam you if you let them. You're a smart woman and you should know the level of contact one has with a person before handing over personal information.

How can a person be 'too' nice? That is like calling a car an automobile in my opinion.

I wish I could you give some words that would let you know and stop you from thinking like this, but honestly, you cannot know.

You have to go with your instinct, not your heart, that bit in your stomach that lets you know what your gut feeling is.

Give him a chance, not to prove anything, but trust what you feel.

He'll cook his own goose if he is not real.


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Geez.....So much easier to just go to the bar and pick someone up......
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Tres fatigue maintenant....Off to bed...'Night night all...
Mar 16, 2009 11:38 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
Lagoona22: Imma, you sound paranoid....it's impossible to answer your question, or even discuss it without knowing the reasons why you even asked the question. Why do you have these fears? What about this new relationship is making you have doubts?...Lay out your grounds for your suspicion, and then we will be able to give you our opinions.

Second point:
Will a scammer bother to chat with me every evening?
Will a scammer speak with me (phone etc.)

Well, I suppose some people out there enjoy the sense of power, or control or sense of achievement they get by engineering themselves into someone's heart. If this person is that type of psycho, then the chase is all that they are interested in. The moment it comes to meeting up, and taking the relationship into the real world, they will disappear. So yes, I suppose there are many different types of scammers, not just the ones after your money.


Yup....think it is just that. I have no grounds for feeling suspicious. Think I am just feeling a little shaky in my ability to judge people right now. I'll get over it. Thanks. handshake
Mar 16, 2009 11:45 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
Thank you Sommer,

It may be the 'too nice' thing that worries me. I know it makes no sense and yes, there is no such thing as too nice, but.....I know what I mean in my head, I am just not expressing it too well at this time. I'll just proceed with a bit of caution and enjoy the good feelings that we are sharing right now and see what happens.

Have a lovely day Lovely Lady....and don't work too hard with your marking. professor
Mar 16, 2009 11:50 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
Gawd, I hate goose. And I hate even more going through these same feelings when you start chatting with someone new...are they real? THese feelings increase my caution, and may (someday) cause me to miss someone that is real and ready.
Mar 16, 2009 11:56 PM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
nurcnurc: Gawd, I hate goose. And I hate even more going through these same feelings when you start chatting with someone new...are they real? THese feelings increase my caution, and may (someday) cause me to miss someone that is real and ready.


Thanks Nurc...hug Good to know I am not alone in having these odd thoughts. Have a good day.
Mar 17, 2009 1:36 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Good morning Imma.

I know exactly how you feel, I too find it difficult to do the online trust thing.

In real life I trust easily, perhaps too easily, yet here it´s the opposite. My guard is always up, a good thing though, in order to avoid getting conned by what my definition of a scammer is....you know those wanting money, or a ticket to Europe.

I´m rarely contacted by real scammers strangely enough, but plenty of the other kind, those who like to play silly power games as Lago mentioned, and who are not really interested in a relationship. I don´t let it get further than a few emails though so I´ve never been hurt.

Maybe though, some who have contacted me here were genuine after all, and I should have been more trusting and gone with the flow dunno

Even those I have actually met and had dates with, I never wanted to have a second date. Partly because the chemistry wasn´t there for me, but also because I´m just not comfortable with the whole online dating concept. I don´t think I ever will be....it´s silly I know. but that´s how I feel.

I´ve been told that I´m not really looking for a relationship and that I´m not ready yet. There could be some truth in that, and it may be one reason why I keep my little wall around me.

Time for coffee, then a couple of classes. Easy day for me today.



teddybear
Mar 17, 2009 1:44 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
immanuelle: Good Evening,

I didn't dare ask this in the International Forums for fear of being ridiculed, but feel a bit safer asking y'all over here. I have often scoffed at the threads that ask about scammers etc. I always thought that if you are stupid enough to get scammed, then you are stupid enough to deserve to be scammed, but now I am beginning to wonder about the whole thing.

My problem is; I trust that what people say is the truth. Why would you bother to go the effort of speaking/typing if you are bullshi**ing...Why bother?

But, now I seem to be getting a bit paranoid....What are the typical signs of a scammer?

Will a scammer bother to chat with me every evening?
Will a scammer speak with me (phone etc.)

I do not like that I am even having these thoughts about people I get in touch with, but whenever I venture into the International Forum, I read the many threads on scammers and I begin to get paranoid.

I did meet a real person on this site and we dated. He wasn't a scammer in the long run (just a bit of an a**hole...). For the past little while, I have been communicating with someone who is very nice. Very nice. I think maybe too nice. And that is what is messin' with my mind. .
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How should I know? How can I know?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Geez.....So much easier to just go to the bar and pick someone up......
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.That was a joke....

Tres fatigue maintenant....Off to bed...'Night night all...
Mar 17, 2009 1:47 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
hi immo if in doubt ask the person who on this site knows him then ask that person what they think then if in doubt block the person concerned
Mar 17, 2009 2:53 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Well, I emptied my jeans pockets this morning....found a set of keys, a caschew nut, an old tissue, a beer receipt from Fat Harry's...but no cajonies!!!....rolling on the floor laughing doh wave
Mar 17, 2009 3:11 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
you dont have to be paranoid.Just never send money or pay for anything upfront.it is a big problem though since i last saw a program that stated almost half of nigeria's(i believe a third actually)national income comes from scamming.you see you cant find these countries in the CSlist too,probab;y for that reason.since u live in holland the program showed(opgelicht it was i believe)that they r workin from sites like marktplaats (ebay)too.Its big bizz and the more money they get the more proffesional they get.So people can be very blase bout it but it still happens a lot.
Mar 17, 2009 3:17 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts


419 song its ridiculous,but they r proud gangstars
Mar 17, 2009 3:28 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
mumbling

There's a reason I don't write to many on this site. It's not that I don't trust anyone, but more that I trust too much. I've been burnt, and it wasn't for money...almost wish it was though.

Just be careful, and keep your eyes open.hug
Mar 17, 2009 4:39 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
It's not just this site Kid.... they're all the same dunno....just one strata of strange behavior, wish there was a way to do a study, the break down of 'types' would be interesting and maybe designing a site that avoids them could be discovered. idea
Mar 18, 2009 1:22 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
Thank you all so much for your words. I do appreciate it. I guess I either take a leap of faith and go for it (with caution) or do what I normally do and run away and pretend to be nonchalant about the whole thing. I am away for the next few days and will think on it. Take care all and thanks again. You are a good bunch of people here. hug
Mar 18, 2009 1:27 AM CST How can you ever really know you are being duped?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Poor Lago comfort.....sorry about that.
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