If men are so sorry, why do you want one...ladies? (59)
Ah, Rilly, I don't ask for perfection since I can't offer it either. What I ask for is perfect for me, even with his flaws. I don't care if a man can spell or has perfect grammar, I care that he has a good heart and is reasonably intelligent (and spelling and grammar are not indicative of intelligence), and loves me for me. In return, I will love him for him. I offer him room to breathe and have his own interests and freedom from jealousy in return for the same from him, and I offer never nagging nor bringing up past issues.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
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druidess6308: Ah, Rilly, I don't ask for perfection since I can't offer it either. What I ask for is perfect for me, even with his flaws. I don't care if a man can spell or has perfect grammar, I care that he has a good heart and is reasonably intelligent (and spelling and grammar are not indicative of intelligence), and loves me for me. In return, I will love him for him. I offer him room to breathe and have his own interests and freedom from jealousy in return for the same from him, and I offer never nagging nor bringing up past issues.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
Problem is Dru, people project what they feel they are themselves. Law of attraction.
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RillyNiceGuy: I am overweight.....and I most likely spelled something wrong or used bad grammar......so I'll leave you perfect ladies alone for sure....I don't want to inflict myself on you!I do not lack self esteem....I just get tired of the pot calling the kettle black.Now why do you want one of us sorry pieces of crap anyway and just what do YOU have to offer the perfect man when you find HIM.
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RillyNiceGuy: I am overweight.....and I most likely spelled something wrong or used bad grammar......so I'll leave you perfect ladies alone for sure....I don't want to inflict myself on you!I do not lack self esteem....I just get tired of the pot calling the kettle black.Now why do you want one of us sorry pieces of crap anyway and just what do YOU have to offer the perfect man when you find HIM.
have i missed something?? personally none of us are perfect, damn sure i'm not 
It's about who you are Len
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druidess6308: Ah, Rilly, I don't ask for perfection since I can't offer it either. What I ask for is perfect for me, even with his flaws. I don't care if a man can spell or has perfect grammar, I care that he has a good heart and is reasonably intelligent (and spelling and grammar are not indicative of intelligence), and loves me for me. In return, I will love him for him. I offer him room to breathe and have his own interests and freedom from jealousy in return for the same from him, and I offer never nagging nor bringing up past issues.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
And I don't consider men to be "sorry pieces of crap". I consider them to be treasures, each in their own way.
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One day a plumber came to a ladys house. He climbs under her sink and his butt crack showed. His pants were not fitting well because he bought them at a rummage sale for work pants. His shirt was too small for him and he had given up pulling it down to cover his butt crack. the shirt was too small because it was old and he had gained weight from eating too much junk food. He grabbed .99 cent honey buns and a coke for supper because he neede to keep working. He was a hard working man with long hours,saving all he could manage. You see his wife could not work...she was terminal...the nurses were costly....the daycare for the kids cost out the butt crack. What a piece of crap he is for the butt crack and poor clothing. But maybe people would think more of him if he was the banker with much money who left his wife because she bacame ill. Maybe the plumber would not have a butt crack showing then.
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RillyNiceGuy: I am overweight.....and I most likely spelled something wrong or used bad grammar......so I'll leave you perfect ladies alone for sure....I don't want to inflict myself on you!I do not lack self esteem....I just get tired of the pot calling the kettle black.Now why do you want one of us sorry pieces of crap anyway and just what do YOU have to offer the perfect man when you find HIM.
Hi Rilly,
I'd never consider anyone "a piece of crap" and if someone already did this they have a serious self-esteem issue..you know the saying "put others down to raise yourself up".As for spelling and grammer,let me tell you that when i atteneded a PT meeting some years ago for my child who was a dreadful speller and the grammer wasn't great either, so i brought this to the teachers attention and he told me not to worry about it,as some of the most successful people in the world can't spell !!. I don't seek perfection as i can't offer it,as a matter of fact there are sooooooooooo many people both male and female who will always be alone,not by choice but by seeking perfection or what they see as perfection....
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buzzy: Problem is Dru, people project what they feel they are themselves. Law of attraction.
Very true...and thereby, one can't really find the right person until they work on their own self esteem issues. If you love yourself, and have done a good job on your inner work, then you can attract what you seek.
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RillyNiceGuy: I am overweight.....and I most likely spelled something wrong or used bad grammar......so I'll leave you perfect ladies alone for sure....I don't want to inflict myself on you!I do not lack self esteem....I just get tired of the pot calling the kettle black.Now why do you want one of us sorry pieces of crap anyway and just what do YOU have to offer the perfect man when you find HIM.
If perfection is what you seek, you must find it in yourself, first. 
Also remember that mood reflects mood, so if you look down upon yourself, don't expect others to look up to you.
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A friend of mine from school in the early years. He had dirty hands from working in the scrap metal. One of these women teachers who were so perfect, got him in front of the class and over several days made him scrub his hands cleaner. His family life was crap, they were just poor folks and the father was harsh. The teacher never got his hands nice and pretty.....but she did earn him and his sister the name "Cherry Dogs" for life. She said his hands were "dirty as a dogs" so the name stuck. Miss Perfect gave them the name to this day. The girls never dated and I never heard my friend speack of a girlfriend.....but later he became a drug dealer and went to jail. I wonder if he had not been a "Cherry Dog" if his life would have been better?????????????????????????????????????
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RillyNiceGuy: One day a plumber came to a ladys house. He climbs under her sink and his butt crack showed. His pants were not fitting well because he bought them at a rummage sale for work pants. His shirt was too small for him and he had given up pulling it down to cover his butt crack. the shirt was too small because it was old and he had gained weight from eating too much junk food. He grabbed .99 cent honey buns and a coke for supper because he neede to keep working. He was a hard working man with long hours,saving all he could manage. You see his wife could not work...she was terminal...the nurses were costly....the daycare for the kids cost out the butt crack. What a piece of crap he is for the butt crack and poor clothing. But maybe people would think more of him if he was the banker with much money who left his wife because she bacame ill. Maybe the plumber would not have a butt crack showing then.
Maybe instead of the junk, he could buy a piece of fruit. Cost about the same. People are fat because of poor choices and lack of education, which is their choice also, not lack of money. I don't think the banker is in a very good light right now. Apple and orange, around 66 cents for both. Water, free. See what I mean!
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YouMeUs: If perfection is what you seek, you must find it in yourself, first.
Also remember that mood reflects mood, so if you look down upon yourself, don't expect others to look up to you.
Also remember that mood reflects mood, so if you look down upon yourself, don't expect others to look up to you.
Reread! my post, you are lost as to context!
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RillyNiceGuy: One day a plumber came to a ladys house. He climbs under her sink and his butt crack showed. His pants were not fitting well because he bought them at a rummage sale for work pants. His shirt was too small for him and he had given up pulling it down to cover his butt crack. the shirt was too small because it was old and he had gained weight from eating too much junk food. He grabbed .99 cent honey buns and a coke for supper because he neede to keep working. He was a hard working man with long hours,saving all he could manage. You see his wife could not work...she was terminal...the nurses were costly....the daycare for the kids cost out the butt crack. What a piece of crap he is for the butt crack and poor clothing. But maybe people would think more of him if he was the banker with much money who left his wife because she bacame ill. Maybe the plumber would not have a butt crack showing then.
Rilly, one day the plumber will find the lady who sees past this to the inside of a tender-hearted man and would rather have him, butt crack showing when he's working and all, than the banker in the suit. I happen to not be fond of "suits", and to prefer hard-working, blue-collar men because I find them to be more real inside with bigger hearts than bankers and lawyers and such. I don't care if I have material wealth, I care that I have wealth of the heart.
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druidess6308: Very true...and thereby, one can't really find the right person until they work on their own self esteem issues. If you love yourself, and have done a good job on your inner work, then you can attract what you seek.
Agreed!
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buzzy: Maybe instead of the junk, he could buy a piece of fruit. Cost about the same. People are fat because of poor choices and lack of education, which is their choice also, not lack of money. I don't think the banker is in a very good light right now. Apple and orange, around 66 cents for both. Water, free. See what I mean!
The man could not work on the calories of an apple or orange. His concern was not on himself....just working to make the money for his family.
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RillyNiceGuy: A friend of mine from school in the early years. He had dirty hands from working in the scrap metal. One of these women teachers who were so perfect, got him in front of the class and over several days made him scrub his hands cleaner. His family life was crap, they were just poor folks and the father was harsh. The teacher never got his hands nice and pretty.....but she did earn him and his sister the name "Cherry Dogs" for life. She said his hands were "dirty as a dogs" so the name stuck. Miss Perfect gave them the name to this day. The girls never dated and I never heard my friend speack of a girlfriend.....but later he became a drug dealer and went to jail. I wonder if he had not been a "Cherry Dog" if his life would have been better?????????????????????????????????????
He made his choices, and so did his sisters. It's possible to rise above these things and not let them determine one's life. Who you are comes from inside, not from the opinions of others, Rilly. If they let those things define them and their lives, that was their choice.
When I was in third grade we moved from an extremely rural area to one that was more populated, and that school was far ahead of us in the times tables in math. I didn't catch up in third grade, and when I got into fourth grade still behind like that, I had a teacher who decided that I was stupid. She told me so in front of the class, and never helped me that year. I didn't grow up considering myself stupid because of her.
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druidess6308: Rilly, one day the plumber will find the lady who sees past this to the inside of a tender-hearted man and would rather have him, butt crack showing when he's working and all, than the banker in the suit. I happen to not be fond of "suits", and to prefer hard-working, blue-collar men because I find them to be more real inside with bigger hearts than bankers and lawyers and such. I don't care if I have material wealth, I care that I have wealth of the heart.
Reread! The plumber had a wife.....dying...and kids he was paying a sitter to keep.
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RillyNiceGuy: A friend of mine from school in the early years. He had dirty hands from working in the scrap metal. One of these women teachers who were so perfect, got him in front of the class and over several days made him scrub his hands cleaner. His family life was crap, they were just poor folks and the father was harsh. The teacher never got his hands nice and pretty.....but she did earn him and his sister the name "Cherry Dogs" for life. She said his hands were "dirty as a dogs" so the name stuck. Miss Perfect gave them the name to this day. The girls never dated and I never heard my friend speack of a girlfriend.....but later he became a drug dealer and went to jail. I wonder if he had not been a "Cherry Dog" if his life would have been better?????????????????????????????????????
YOU CAN"T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR CHOICE IN LIFE. He allowed what they said and did to affect him. I have seen wealthy kids go down that same path so your argument holds no weight, Rilly. We make our own choices in life. If we allow others to influence our decissions, then we are making that choice. I did not have a great upbringing. But, I'm not a drug dealer, nor have ever been arrested. Quit blaming others for your lot in life. The choices are yours!
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RillyNiceGuy: Reread! The plumber had a wife.....dying...and kids he was paying a sitter to keep.
Then WTF would he care at that time what others thought of him?
I sure didn't give a crap what anyone thought of me when my husband was dying. It wasn't even on my radar to wonder what anyone thought of my looks, or how I was dressed.------ This thread is Archived ------
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I do not lack self esteem....I just get tired of the pot calling the kettle black.
Now why do you want one of us sorry pieces of crap anyway and just what do YOU have to offer the perfect man when you find HIM.