HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA ( Archived) (179)

May 3, 2009 2:12 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised

Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!


huh?confused

Yet you wouldn't vote for McCain?roll eyes
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May 3, 2009 2:16 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
cristina: huh?

Yet you wouldn't vote for McCain?


Oh I so hoped McCain would winwave

But ive always been intrigued with Miss Ricecheering
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May 3, 2009 2:25 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised

Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
Thank you! Sadly, some blacks called her a female uncle tom.
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May 3, 2009 2:30 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
I'm reading "The audacity of hope" very slowly, cause I want to touch so many things at the same time, but I'm loving it. I haven't got to the "politics" chapter yet, but my sense is that a very modern democrat, too reasonable in opposition to emotional...this is more European oriented than American, isn't it?
Anyway, he is not being false, he mentioned change.
He says that although the constitution is a very clear doc, it has to be interpreted according to nowadays evolution, just like anything else. An example of it is the freedom of speech in the internet...what are the boundaries? He questions. And another example is that many ammendments along the years were to keep segregation, it was reasonable at the time...not today...
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May 3, 2009 2:32 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
BebeII: You mean Bush didn't saturate this site as President? I'm shocked, truly and duly shocked!


Not at his early days...

Bush needed saturation because he was behaving really bad...

You might not support Obama, but is he doing a lot of nonsense that deserves all this?

You're shocked? Don't I shock you?
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May 3, 2009 5:00 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised

Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
You'd have heard the Lefties howl worse than Werewolves!!!!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 3, 2009 8:11 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
CjTenorSax: Aw, come on. Many guys call their vehicles the Beast, high manitenance Bi*ch, Baby etc. It means nothing.





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May 3, 2009 8:13 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
pebblesbamban
pebblesbambanpebblesbambanPennsylvania, USA3 Threads 4,038 Posts
BebeII: I don't watch videos-I READ.




Me to... I love Poetry......cheers
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May 3, 2009 8:51 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
bosmike: Taino, what you apparently don't know is that people of Indian (as in the country) descent are classified as "Indo-European" and are closest related to Caucasian people than black people. But, be that as it may, you seem to have this unhealthy fixation on racial matters.

And by your own admission, Bush wasn't well liked by many, and that isn't racial, but if someone doesn't like Obama, it must be racial? Hmmmmm, I smell a double standard, especially seeing that Obama is arguably THE most inexperienced, ill-prepared Presidential nominee EVER in the history of America, so maybe being black HELPED him become elected.


Lets start with you first. Are all indian people Caucasian? Are all Indian people the same? Are all black people the same? Are the blacks in say Africa the same as the blacks in say America or the Caribbean? Since you're the expert on these matters. And while you're at it could you tell me about the Indians in my country? I like the experts to talk and I'll listen. I usually would not be side tracked by this crap but since you brought it up.

I never said Bush was disliked because he was white. The same way I don't think Mr. Obama is only disliked because he's black. And what do you know of me to know about my fixations? Am I any more fixated than the other hundred and one threads on the matter that go on and on? I've tried to keep my thread as decent as possible. Lets make a deal. I don't make personal comments about your comprehension skills and you make none about my supposed fixations.

Oh and by the way if you've found yourself with what you call an inexperienced, illprepared, presidential nominee as your President, don't take it up with me. Take it up with your fellow countrymen who voted for him. And I know two people who voted(one is an American friend who is white and a black guy I was talking to on another site) Never once did my white friend tell me he was only voting for Obama because he was black - in fact if I recall he mentioned something about liking what he had to bring to the table. And the black guy - spent an entire e-mail railing about how could they have put Mr. Obama in there and how much better things were under Bush.talk to hand
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May 3, 2009 10:34 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
tainogirl: Lets start with you first. Are all indian people Caucasian? Are all Indian people the same? Are all black people the same? Are the blacks in say Africa the same as the blacks in say America or the Caribbean? Since you're the expert on these matters. And while you're at it could you tell me about the Indians in my country? I like the experts to talk and I'll listen. I usually would not be side tracked by this crap but since you brought it up.

I never said Bush was disliked because he was white. The same way I don't think Mr. Obama is only disliked because he's black. And what do you know of me to know about my fixations? Am I any more fixated than the other hundred and one threads on the matter that go on and on? I've tried to keep my thread as decent as possible. Lets make a deal. I don't make personal comments about your comprehension skills and you make none about my supposed fixations.

Oh and by the way if you've found yourself with what you call an inexperienced, illprepared, presidential nominee as your President, don't take it up with me. Take it up with your fellow countrymen who voted for him. And I know two people who voted(one is an American friend who is white and a black guy I was talking to on another site) Never once did my white friend tell me he was only voting for Obama because he was black - in fact if I recall he mentioned something about liking what he had to bring to the table. And the black guy - spent an entire e-mail railing about how could they have put Mr. Obama in there and how much better things were under Bush.
All over but the Crying!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 3, 2009 11:41 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
I think I like Fareed Zakaria...

Is he bad?roll eyes
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May 3, 2009 11:59 AM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
cristina: I think I like Fareed Zakaria...

Is he bad?



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Very good Christina!!
I rather like him myself although I don't agree with him over half the time, I certainly appreciate his logic. If I were a Muslim radical or/ and an Arab fanatic, I'd see him as an'Uncle Tom' to his heritage however. Take someone's perspective and turn it around and it's fascinating what one sees...Minds are a wonder in which to see the soul, provided they have a mind, of courselaugh
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May 3, 2009 12:22 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
solitare: Very good Christina!!
I rather like him myself although I don't agree with him over half the time, I certainly appreciate his logic. If I were a Muslim radical or/ and an Arab fanatic, I'd see him as an'Uncle Tom' to his heritage however. Take someone's perspective and turn it around and it's fascinating what one sees...Minds are a wonder in which to see the soul, provided they have a mind, of course


Yeah, his logic and comfort talking about issues and all those people is really interest.
I heard he doesn't take care of his muslim side that much. How many don't!??
Anyway, there is this erroneous idea here on CS that being muslim AKA potentiality of being connected to terrorism. We only had that feeling after 9/11. Terrible manipulationdoh
I think he is in a great position...since he feels both sides strongly, is a joirnalist and is attentive to the world. It's comfy to listen to him...roll eyes
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May 3, 2009 12:41 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
tainogirl: I enjoyed reading your thread littlewolf and you make some good points but here's what I want to ask you?

You're a Christian, I was raised as Christian. On the one hand you say we are all humans then you say Mr. Obama is shaking hands with his enemies. Okay, then what does the bible say about how we should treat our enemies? If it says love your enemies then what should Mr. Obama do? Does it say love your enemies but make sure and keep an eye on him just in case he stabs you in the back? Perhaps it should have said that. But I would bet it doesn't. I don't want to turn this into a religious thread but in what way have you found that many Christian churches fallen away?

You asked why the fighting? But I think you already answered your own question. If CS is an international site and represents a small part of the world and you said the world is in a total mess, there are rascists in all colours and religions, and you've seen rascism on several sides - in a word INTOLERANCE. Well there's your answer.
I said nothing about it being wrong to love ur enemy and pray for them.But knowing that they are ur enemy,U cant trust them.Not trusting them has nothing to do with loving them and praying for them.for instant I love Tigers,But I have sense enough not to try and pet one.There is a difference in tolerance and being sensible enough to stay away from danger,wherever that danger comes from.Its already been tuned into a racial and a religious thread.handshake
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May 3, 2009 1:26 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
littlewolf: I said nothing about it being wrong to love ur enemy and pray for them.But knowing that they are ur enemy,U cant trust them.Not trusting them has nothing to do with loving them and praying for them.for instant I love Tigers,But I have sense enough not to try and pet one.There is a difference in tolerance and being sensible enough to stay away from danger,wherever that danger comes from.Its already been tuned into a racial and a religious thread.


Okay if I can't trust my enemy then why exactly am I suppose to take the time to praying for him? If everyone is busy turning to watch their backs at some point youre likely to run the risk of walking into a light post.laugh People can be fascinating they can be enemies one minute and friends the next. But here's a thought for you. What kind of world exactly would we live in if nobody ever tried to be friends with their enemies. Certainly there is a chance that it might fail. But I would rather try to make peace than war. wine
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May 3, 2009 2:49 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
tainogirl: Okay if I can't trust my enemy then why exactly am I suppose to take the time to praying for him? If everyone is busy turning to watch their backs at some point youre likely to run the risk of walking into a light post. People can be fascinating they can be enemies one minute and friends the next. But here's a thought for you. What kind of world exactly would we live in if nobody ever tried to be friends with their enemies. Certainly there is a chance that it might fail. But I would rather try to make peace than war.
I believe that is basically what I said.The best way to rid urself of an enemy,is to make him ur friend.The rest i wont even answer,because ur refering to the christian part,and that has been beat to death on here.wave
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May 3, 2009 2:58 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
Deserteagle
DeserteagleDeserteagleGlendale, Arizona USA1 Threads 1 Polls 16 Posts
I consider myself conservative and could care less what color a person is. Obama could be yellow with blue poke a dots and it wouldn't matter to me.

I just don't like his politics. There is a reason the communist party supports Democrats.

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May 3, 2009 3:05 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
Deserteagle: I consider myself conservative and could care less what color a person is. Obama could be yellow with blue poke a dots and it wouldn't matter to me.

I just don't like his politics. There is a reason the communist party supports Democrats.

Yep,and they are Green on the Outside these Days,and RED on the Inside!That's why the CP had to make it a Very Special Earth-Day!frustrated
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May 3, 2009 3:22 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
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Deserteagle: I consider myself conservative and could care less what color a person is. Obama could be yellow with blue poke a dots and it wouldn't matter to me.

I just don't like his politics. There is a reason the communist party supports Democrats.

thumbs up My exact reasoning.
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May 3, 2009 5:20 PM CST HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
cristina: Not at his early days...

Bush needed saturation because he was behaving really bad...

You might not support Obama, but is he doing a lot of nonsense that deserves all this?

You're shocked? Don't I shock you?
Bush didn't behave badly-he merely took on issues that most left-of-center people like to bloviate, but do nothing about. It costs nothing to "feel" one way or another about a subject-much harder to try and actually solve it. Deserves all what? It's called debate, and many people don't like O's poilicies. The debt of this nation was bad enough and now he's made it much worse. No, you don't shock me at all.
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