cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised
Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised
Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
Thank you! Sadly, some blacks called her a female uncle tom.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
I'm reading "The audacity of hope" very slowly, cause I want to touch so many things at the same time, but I'm loving it. I haven't got to the "politics" chapter yet, but my sense is that a very modern democrat, too reasonable in opposition to emotional...this is more European oriented than American, isn't it? Anyway, he is not being false, he mentioned change. He says that although the constitution is a very clear doc, it has to be interpreted according to nowadays evolution, just like anything else. An example of it is the freedom of speech in the internet...what are the boundaries? He questions. And another example is that many ammendments along the years were to keep segregation, it was reasonable at the time...not today...
Mercedes1: Yeah this guy is voted in and then questions are raised
Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
You'd have heard the Lefties howl worse than Werewolves!!!!!!!!
tainogirlOPTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago3,777 posts
bosmike: Taino, what you apparently don't know is that people of Indian (as in the country) descent are classified as "Indo-European" and are closest related to Caucasian people than black people. But, be that as it may, you seem to have this unhealthy fixation on racial matters.
And by your own admission, Bush wasn't well liked by many, and that isn't racial, but if someone doesn't like Obama, it must be racial? Hmmmmm, I smell a double standard, especially seeing that Obama is arguably THE most inexperienced, ill-prepared Presidential nominee EVER in the history of America, so maybe being black HELPED him become elected.
Lets start with you first. Are all indian people Caucasian? Are all Indian people the same? Are all black people the same? Are the blacks in say Africa the same as the blacks in say America or the Caribbean? Since you're the expert on these matters. And while you're at it could you tell me about the Indians in my country? I like the experts to talk and I'll listen. I usually would not be side tracked by this crap but since you brought it up.
I never said Bush was disliked because he was white. The same way I don't think Mr. Obama is only disliked because he's black. And what do you know of me to know about my fixations? Am I any more fixated than the other hundred and one threads on the matter that go on and on? I've tried to keep my thread as decent as possible. Lets make a deal. I don't make personal comments about your comprehension skills and you make none about my supposed fixations.
Oh and by the way if you've found yourself with what you call an inexperienced, illprepared, presidential nominee as your President, don't take it up with me. Take it up with your fellow countrymen who voted for him. And I know two people who voted(one is an American friend who is white and a black guy I was talking to on another site) Never once did my white friend tell me he was only voting for Obama because he was black - in fact if I recall he mentioned something about liking what he had to bring to the table. And the black guy - spent an entire e-mail railing about how could they have put Mr. Obama in there and how much better things were under Bush.
tainogirl: Lets start with you first. Are all indian people Caucasian? Are all Indian people the same? Are all black people the same? Are the blacks in say Africa the same as the blacks in say America or the Caribbean? Since you're the expert on these matters. And while you're at it could you tell me about the Indians in my country? I like the experts to talk and I'll listen. I usually would not be side tracked by this crap but since you brought it up.
I never said Bush was disliked because he was white. The same way I don't think Mr. Obama is only disliked because he's black. And what do you know of me to know about my fixations? Am I any more fixated than the other hundred and one threads on the matter that go on and on? I've tried to keep my thread as decent as possible. Lets make a deal. I don't make personal comments about your comprehension skills and you make none about my supposed fixations.
Oh and by the way if you've found yourself with what you call an inexperienced, illprepared, presidential nominee as your President, don't take it up with me. Take it up with your fellow countrymen who voted for him. And I know two people who voted(one is an American friend who is white and a black guy I was talking to on another site) Never once did my white friend tell me he was only voting for Obama because he was black - in fact if I recall he mentioned something about liking what he had to bring to the table. And the black guy - spent an entire e-mail railing about how could they have put Mr. Obama in there and how much better things were under Bush.
Very good Christina!! I rather like him myself although I don't agree with him over half the time, I certainly appreciate his logic. If I were a Muslim radical or/ and an Arab fanatic, I'd see him as an'Uncle Tom' to his heritage however. Take someone's perspective and turn it around and it's fascinating what one sees...Minds are a wonder in which to see the soul, provided they have a mind, of course
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
solitare: Very good Christina!! I rather like him myself although I don't agree with him over half the time, I certainly appreciate his logic. If I were a Muslim radical or/ and an Arab fanatic, I'd see him as an'Uncle Tom' to his heritage however. Take someone's perspective and turn it around and it's fascinating what one sees...Minds are a wonder in which to see the soul, provided they have a mind, of course
Yeah, his logic and comfort talking about issues and all those people is really interest. I heard he doesn't take care of his muslim side that much. How many don't!?? Anyway, there is this erroneous idea here on CS that being muslim AKA potentiality of being connected to terrorism. We only had that feeling after 9/11. Terrible manipulation I think he is in a great position...since he feels both sides strongly, is a joirnalist and is attentive to the world. It's comfy to listen to him...
tainogirl: I enjoyed reading your thread littlewolf and you make some good points but here's what I want to ask you?
You're a Christian, I was raised as Christian. On the one hand you say we are all humans then you say Mr. Obama is shaking hands with his enemies. Okay, then what does the bible say about how we should treat our enemies? If it says love your enemies then what should Mr. Obama do? Does it say love your enemies but make sure and keep an eye on him just in case he stabs you in the back? Perhaps it should have said that. But I would bet it doesn't. I don't want to turn this into a religious thread but in what way have you found that many Christian churches fallen away?
You asked why the fighting? But I think you already answered your own question. If CS is an international site and represents a small part of the world and you said the world is in a total mess, there are rascists in all colours and religions, and you've seen rascism on several sides - in a word INTOLERANCE. Well there's your answer.
I said nothing about it being wrong to love ur enemy and pray for them.But knowing that they are ur enemy,U cant trust them.Not trusting them has nothing to do with loving them and praying for them.for instant I love Tigers,But I have sense enough not to try and pet one.There is a difference in tolerance and being sensible enough to stay away from danger,wherever that danger comes from.Its already been tuned into a racial and a religious thread.
tainogirlOPTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago3,777 posts
littlewolf: I said nothing about it being wrong to love ur enemy and pray for them.But knowing that they are ur enemy,U cant trust them.Not trusting them has nothing to do with loving them and praying for them.for instant I love Tigers,But I have sense enough not to try and pet one.There is a difference in tolerance and being sensible enough to stay away from danger,wherever that danger comes from.Its already been tuned into a racial and a religious thread.
Okay if I can't trust my enemy then why exactly am I suppose to take the time to praying for him? If everyone is busy turning to watch their backs at some point youre likely to run the risk of walking into a light post. People can be fascinating they can be enemies one minute and friends the next. But here's a thought for you. What kind of world exactly would we live in if nobody ever tried to be friends with their enemies. Certainly there is a chance that it might fail. But I would rather try to make peace than war.
tainogirl: Okay if I can't trust my enemy then why exactly am I suppose to take the time to praying for him? If everyone is busy turning to watch their backs at some point youre likely to run the risk of walking into a light post. People can be fascinating they can be enemies one minute and friends the next. But here's a thought for you. What kind of world exactly would we live in if nobody ever tried to be friends with their enemies. Certainly there is a chance that it might fail. But I would rather try to make peace than war.
I believe that is basically what I said.The best way to rid urself of an enemy,is to make him ur friend.The rest i wont even answer,because ur refering to the christian part,and that has been beat to death on here.
Deserteagle: I consider myself conservative and could care less what color a person is. Obama could be yellow with blue poke a dots and it wouldn't matter to me.
I just don't like his politics. There is a reason the communist party supports Democrats.
Deserteagle: I consider myself conservative and could care less what color a person is. Obama could be yellow with blue poke a dots and it wouldn't matter to me.
I just don't like his politics. There is a reason the communist party supports Democrats.
Bush needed saturation because he was behaving really bad...
You might not support Obama, but is he doing a lot of nonsense that deserves all this?
You're shocked? Don't I shock you?
Bush didn't behave badly-he merely took on issues that most left-of-center people like to bloviate, but do nothing about. It costs nothing to "feel" one way or another about a subject-much harder to try and actually solve it. Deserves all what? It's called debate, and many people don't like O's poilicies. The debt of this nation was bad enough and now he's made it much worse. No, you don't shock me at all.
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Personally I wanted with all my heart and soul for Condalezza Rice to run the affairs of America as ive never ever seen such intelligence from a politican who is blessed with so much grace,poise,and the brains to guarantee world peace!!!
huh?
Yet you wouldn't vote for McCain?