SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS (97)
rubendario: Oh, I do keep an open mind..always..that is the only way to keep growing...otherwise..you develop tunnel vision. I also do not feel I am a know it all..just because I had an OBE or two...my point was just that once something of this magnitude happens to you(us/anyone) it startles a person to search a little deeper. Also OBEs are just a small part of the larger picture as you wrote...just saying..it's a start for those who's minds are closed...and I was not necessarily singling you out, I was trying to write in general terms. I also don't mind listening or reading about someone's point of view..or conviction on life after death...what ever that may be.
Right on buddy. Sorry if my post appeared to come out wrong
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eh, these phrases "life after death" or "death after life" are making my head spin. I thought life is an "idea" that only makes sense in this world, hence the phrase "death after life" kinda make sense to me. But "life after death"? hmmmm....since we don't know about the experiences after our "death", we can only assume that there maybe something after "death" which may or may not resemble "life" but could be something close to "life". o god..i don't even know what i am saying. my head spins now even more
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mnowsa: eh, these phrases "life after death" or "death after life" are making my head spin. I thought life is an "idea" that only makes sense in this world, hence the phrase "death after life" kinda make sense to me. But "life after death"? hmmmm....since we don't know about the experiences after our "death", we can only assume that there maybe something after "death" which may or may not resemble "life" but could be something close to "life". o god..i don't even know what i am saying. my head spins now even more
It will make more sense when you come to realize that there is no such thing as 'death'. There is only "life unto life". Kinda like working two jobs and having to change uniforms.
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BClady: It will make more sense when you come to realize that there is no such thing as 'death'. There is only "life unto life". Kinda like working two jobs and having to change uniforms.
no "death"? sweetie, are you out of your mind?lol...you are saying that there is nothing called "death" and yet the one thing that we scared to death is "DEATH"?!
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BClady: It will make more sense when you come to realize that there is no such thing as 'death'. There is only "life unto life". Kinda like working two jobs and having to change uniforms.
If death is life unto life and about changing uniforms, then i am afraid the ladies will take a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time to change their dress and look pretty. Gosh..it means the ladies will be very very late for their next life ( or death?)
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steppingthegrate: Right on buddy. Sorry if my post appeared to come out wrong
Hey! No problem bro!
Perhaps, I too did not express myself correctly, that is why I am trying to get more involved in more forums and blogs...to improve my writing skills.
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yea I love spirits
40%proof
40%proof
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hi sweetheart .. can you un block me???
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phoenixrising1: hi sweetheart .. can you un block me???
who blocked you phoenix?
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kindheart74: who blocked you phoenix?
oh sorry it was ladyfingers
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handymanrichie: Jenna, are you telling me what Jesus really meant to say 2000 years ago, that didn't make it into the Bible? Just messing with ya, I was hammering on a lady who I thought was mocking me in my beliefs, but I found out she is harmless so I apologize. By reading your post, I can see that you are a big thinker like I am, and I agree with some of the stuff you say. However you are only 23, and you have five years of catching up to do, before you can try and correct me. Hell, when I was 23 I was still a Christian, and didn't even know diddly about ancient human history. A lot of things can change in your way of thinking, in that short amount of time, trust me.
Wow, can you be more blatent about talking down to someone? I am older than you, so I guess that I could say whatever I want to you, and you would just have to accept it. You won't be able to even respond to my post for 5 years. I find this very interesting from someone so young. Lets see if you can "catch up " to me in the time you have untill you are my age.
Does someone's age make their argument or postitopn more or less valid. I do not think so. You need to address the position being offered, NOT the person offering it. Maybe you should be a politician, because attacking the person instead of the position is very popular in that feild. If a point is valid, it will stand on its own two feet. If I diasgree with you, it will be based on your postion, and its own validity. I will not make it a personal attack on you as a person.
By the way, I am 33 years old. This is the year I will outlive Jesus. So I guess that will qualify me to speak on religion.
A lot of people will NEVER get a handle on some things no matter how many years they spend on this planet.
I don't know you, maybe you are a great guy, and we would get a long fine. I do know that your posts make you come across as a know it all, pseudo intellectual, who likes to talk down to others.
Jw
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steppingthegrate: You make it sound as if I haven't had any, but you don't know me, so why should I expect you to. I've been told by many that I have a cynical view on the way humans think. Each one thinks they are right, even as I type this I believe that I am right, or at least for this very moment. My point is, after my "OBEs", I too felt that I had tapped the secret of life itself, to an extent. Then I got back to talking with my various friends, many from all over the world, and then I realized once again: my experience is only a single drop in an ocean of others' experiences. Who am I to declare what my view of things are concerning what happens after death? Personally, I believe certain things, but you must always, ALWAYS entertain the possibility in your mind that you might be wrong. Keep a TRULY open mind, or at least try
Very good attitude. I fully respect your point of view. I disagree with many when it comes to religion, and the universe, etc. But, when you REALLY get down to it, NOBODY knows for sure.
I have a lot of ideas and notions. Some of my ideas are even based on observable fact, but I cannot be absolutely certain. To be certain is a myth in itself.
The reason why science is always changing while religion is stagnant is because science states " we don't know, but we are working on it". As soon as new evidence comes along that disputes prior held notions, one of them has to go. Science is always questioning itself and evolving. The things that were accepted as science a hundred years ago are laughable today ( so is what is thought of as religion, except that is still the same!). We have added to, or completely replaced the older held notions and we now have the best notions with more evidence. We always have the best theories that we can based on the current knowledge.
Religions, on the other hand say WE DO KNOW THE ANSWER FOR SURE. Christians, for example say that we know everything we need to know for sure based on a book written from knowledge 2000 years ago ( the bible itself, as we know it today, was mostly organized, edited (YES EDITED), and published in around 1611). You are not ALLOWED to challenge claims made by religion. If you do, you are a heretic and an outcast. Religion discourages independent thought.
So I believe that science is constantly growing and seeking new knowledge, while religions are just rehashing the same myths from thousands of yeras ago.
Why are some ancient beliefs "myths" while others are considered " the truth" and something to live your life by. One is no more valid than the other, yet we make this distinction. I learned " greek mythology" in school by a teacher who also believed that the bible is the word of god. Am I the only one who thinks this is ironic?
Jw
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What means spiritual,does it mean religous people have no spirit?
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U can't feel that ... because ur.... the dog ate it...
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COME ON KIDS.... THIS IS REAL .......SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGIOUS.......... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU... AND IF YOU DID NOT SAY THAT ON YOUR PROFILE THEN SAY SO IN YOUR COMMENTS...PLEASE
I AM GLAD I WAS NOT YOUR 8TH GRADE TEACHER
I AM GLAD I WAS NOT YOUR 8TH GRADE TEACHER
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handymanrichie: Not a single atom remains in your body now that you had when you were born. You released all that energy, but you are unaware of it. Thats why I feel like when you're gone, you're gone. You are not going to be some form of energy aware of your past life. You are simply dying to make room for someone else to have a shot at life. You will be brain dead, and it will not be like a dream either. Just simply the end. The only way that we will see eternal life is if we take the aging process from our DNA.
It seems you have not recognized the role and nature of the psyche. The soul is located in our consciousness and subconscious which in turn makes up our psyche. Those thing, one can argue, are eternal---part of infinity. Past lives have been documented around the world by regressive therapists. So the their is no conscious awareness of a past life, but our subconscious does indeed remember our past lives. Sort of like when you wake up, and can't remember your dream.
The hypothetical possibility that the psyche touches on a form of existence outside of space and time presents a scientific question-mark that merits serious consideration for a long time to come. The nature of the psyche reaches into obscurities far beyond the scope of our understanding and contains as many riddles as the cosmos in this spacetime continuum.
For instance, the psychological fact that telepathic perceptions occur, anyone should draw the conclusion that the psyche, in its deepest state, participates in a form of existence beyond space and time, and thus partakes of what is inadequately and symbolically described as eternity---Infinity. Carl Jung can back me up on all of this with his observations and clinical studies of the paranormal and the psyche---consciousness and the subconscious and its relation to life after death through his documentations of the patients he observed that were near death.
I may not have empirical proof for you. I just have a theory and my belief that the soul/spirit does indeed exist and lives forever. And it's just not an opinion, it's a theory using quantum science, para-psychology, regressive therapy, and parcels from some metaphysical ideas.
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