SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS ( Archived) (97)

Jun 28, 2009 11:52 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
Maiwyn
MaiwynMaiwynPedricktown, New Jersey USA21 Posts
phoenixrising1: thankyou


No thank you. I know I don't explain things very well. I never imagined a state of mind or thought process that was so simple to understand would be so difficult to put into words. Maybe becaus ethere is really no need for words, just understanding and everyone will find there own path towards spirituality. believe all of our paths are intertwined and going in the same direction. Like I said before I dont think how you live your life determines anything at death except how well or poorly (if there is such a thing because even the most undesirable person will learn something in a lifetime) a spirit has grown.

Thank you for your gratitude!

Blessed Be!!

Jenna aka Maiwyn
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Jun 29, 2009 2:12 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
phoenixrising1
phoenixrising1phoenixrising1northern, British Columbia Canada58 Threads 25 Polls 1,086 Posts
Maiwyn: No thank you. I know I don't explain things very well. I never imagined a state of mind or thought process that was so simple to understand would be so difficult to put into words. Maybe becaus ethere is really no need for words, just understanding and everyone will find there own path towards spirituality. believe all of our paths are intertwined and going in the same direction. Like I said before I dont think how you live your life determines anything at death except how well or poorly (if there is such a thing because even the most undesirable person will learn something in a lifetime) a spirit has grown.

Thank you for your gratitude!

Blessed Be!!

Jenna aka Maiwyn


your welcome my friend

bouquet
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Jun 29, 2009 9:32 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
handymanrichie
handymanrichiehandymanrichielexington, Kentucky USA51 Posts
Maiwyn: What Jesus meant by saying he was the son of God was that we ALL are the "children" of God (creator, no matter what you personally call it). The creator (which I say Universe) created the Earth and once it was able to sustain life, it did so. Then one day came humans, therefore the creator is OUR (not in the sense of owning it, just in a sense of relation to it) creator, just like a parent giving birth to a child, hence the term "child of God".

Blessed Be!!

Jenna aka Maiwyn


Jenna, are you telling me what Jesus really meant to say 2000 years ago, that didn't make it into the Bible? Just messing with ya, I was hammering on a lady who I thought was mocking me in my beliefs, but I found out she is harmless so I apologize. By reading your post, I can see that you are a big thinker like I am, and I agree with some of the stuff you say. However you are only 23, and you have five years of catching up to do, before you can try and correct me. Hell, when I was 23 I was still a Christian, and didn't even know diddly about ancient human history. A lot of things can change in your way of thinking, in that short amount of time, trust me.wave
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Jun 29, 2009 9:46 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
I am spiritual but not religious.

I believe in everything and nothing and I figured spiritual was the closet choice I have when filling out the form.

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Jun 29, 2009 9:56 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
handymanrichie: I think that you miss understood me, it is very complicated so I will do my best to clarify this time. Just because I feel like we were created by beings who were more evolved then us, doesn't mean that there is an unknown force that creates, and keeps a specific order in our universe. When you look at a substation, you can't see the electricity, but you know it is there because we have set up a system to manipulate and control the electricity in a certain way. That electricity exist, but would not behave in that way, and make it to our homes without a system set up by intelligence. When you study the universe you will see that it is full of matter an energy, but it isn't random and chaotic. It is a repetitive system that destroys, and recreates in the same patterns no matter how far away each object is. Now this creative power that we can't see can some how control energy on an unprecedented scale. With that being said, if something this powerful really exists, it would be able to control every particle in the universe including the ones we are made of. So when I say spiritual, I'm talking about this unknown force that I feel exist, and I might even call it God sometime.

If it lays the perimeters for life to evolve a certain way at will, then it can create biological life. I don't think that it physically can come down to a planet and fashion a human being on a pottery wheel, but I do think it is a long controlled process. The beings that created us out of their self, only existed and were able to do so, because this unknown force allowed it. Weather or not these beings where knowingly influenced, by this energy, I don't know, but it wants us here for a reason, or it wouldn't have allowed the speedy process.


Thanks for clearing that all up, Phoenix. smile
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Jun 29, 2009 10:24 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
handymanrichie
handymanrichiehandymanrichielexington, Kentucky USA51 Posts
Thanks for clearing that all up, Phoenix.[/quo

handymanrichie, my friend.
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Jun 29, 2009 10:30 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
marifem1973
marifem1973marifem1973Munich, Bavaria Germany1 Threads 21 Posts
I think personal beleifs are exactly thet PERSONAL...each spirit has its own level of spiritual knowledge ...but in the end it all comes down to each individual's Journey and beleifs and that should always be respected. Live and Let Live. We are all equal in the end and we bleed the same red blood and all are living and special creations. Blessed be ...and just respect yourself the Earth you Live in and those around you and be at Peace.heart wings
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Jun 30, 2009 12:57 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
phoenixrising1
phoenixrising1phoenixrising1northern, British Columbia Canada58 Threads 25 Polls 1,086 Posts
age has nothing to do with our ability to comprehend.

teddybear
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Jun 30, 2009 1:01 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
phoenixrising1
phoenixrising1phoenixrising1northern, British Columbia Canada58 Threads 25 Polls 1,086 Posts
marifem1973: I think personal beleifs are exactly thet PERSONAL...each spirit has its own level of spiritual knowledge ...but in the end it all comes down to each individual's Journey and beleifs and that should always be respected. Live and Let Live. We are all equal in the end and we bleed the same red blood and all are living and special creations. Blessed be ...and just respect yourself the Earth you Live in and those around you and be at Peace.


thankyou my friend

teddybear
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Jun 30, 2009 9:57 AM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
handymanrichie
handymanrichiehandymanrichielexington, Kentucky USA51 Posts
These post are starting to get pretty damn simple and boring. I don't know how much longer I can bare to post.confused
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Jun 30, 2009 12:32 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
phoenixrising1
phoenixrising1phoenixrising1northern, British Columbia Canada58 Threads 25 Polls 1,086 Posts
handymanrichie: These post are starting to get pretty damn simple and boring. I don't know how much longer I can bare to post.

moping
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Jun 30, 2009 12:36 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
marifem1973: I think personal beleifs are exactly thet PERSONAL...each spirit has its own level of spiritual knowledge ...but in the end it all comes down to each individual's Journey and beleifs and that should always be respected. Live and Let Live. We are all equal in the end and we bleed the same red blood and all are living and special creations. Blessed be ...and just respect yourself the Earth you Live in and those around you and be at Peace.
thumbs up thumbs up peace
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Jun 30, 2009 7:30 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
phoenixrising1
phoenixrising1phoenixrising1northern, British Columbia Canada58 Threads 25 Polls 1,086 Posts
well said my friendcool
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Jun 30, 2009 7:36 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
phoenixrising1: can you tell me with certainty what will happen at the moment of your death?.. as opposed to political truth or religious truth,, etc



Our energy will transfer into another vibrational plane that matches our vibrational frequency. Meaning, that our energy when we die, is charged in a certain way and determines what we will experience next and where. The more evolved, the higher our vibration is and the higher existence we will experience, the less evolved, the lower our vibration is and the lower the existence we will experience. Kinda like the Heaven-Hell Judeo-Christian-Islam concept and the Hindu-Buddhist concept of Nirvana and repeating cycles of painful lifetimes in which we are trying to escape.

And I do believe we do carry the knowledge with us from all of our journeys in whatever existence we were in. Though we will only be subconsciously aware of it should we come back into some physical existence or even ethereal existence.

No God determining where we go, just our energy and what kind of vibration we have according to our awareness which is stored in our subconscious.
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Jun 30, 2009 7:45 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
mikey12654
mikey12654mikey12654Vancouver, Washington USA2 Threads 127 Posts
StressFree: Our energy will transfer into another vibrational plane that matches our vibrational frequency. Meaning, that our energy when we die, is charged in a certain way and determines what we will experience next and where. The more evolved, the higher our vibration is and the higher existence we will experience, the less evolved, the lower our vibration is and the lower the existence we will experience. Kinda like the Heaven-Hell Judeo-Christian-Islam concept and the Hindu-Buddhist concept of Nirvana and repeating cycles of painful lifetimes in which we are trying to escape.

And I do believe we do carry the knowledge with us from all of our journeys in whatever existence we were in. Though we will only be subconsciously aware of it should we come back into some physical existence or even ethereal existence.

No God determining where we go, just our energy and what kind of vibration we have according to our awareness which is stored in our subconscious.



I totally agree with you, I can tell you from having a NDE that the ultimate lessons to be learned are compassion and love...
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Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
GirlWednesday
GirlWednesdayGirlWednesdayScarborough, Ontario Canada1 Threads 53 Posts
But.... what if you are wrong?
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Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
GirlWednesday
GirlWednesdayGirlWednesdayScarborough, Ontario Canada1 Threads 53 Posts
Meant for the post above.
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Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
GirlWednesday
GirlWednesdayGirlWednesdayScarborough, Ontario Canada1 Threads 53 Posts
Sorry, I really have a lot of problems with posting the correct way here.

We all have our own beliefs, however, I think one should always try to maintain an open mind to different thoughts and ideas...
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Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
handymanrichie: It is a repetitive system that destroys, and recreates in the same patterns no matter how far away each object is. Now this creative power that we can't see can some how control energy on an unprecedented scale. With that being said, if something this powerful really exists, it would be able to control every particle in the universe including the ones we are made of. So when I say spiritual, I'm talking about this unknown force that I feel exist, and I might even call it God sometime.



Seems like you are putting God factors on a natural nature of the cosmos and infinity.

Atoms are clusters of energy particles, the sub-atomic physical properties which we and the quantum heads don't clearly understand. The problem in my opinion right now, is that we are all trying to explain things that we observe, but what we observe is a very incomplete picture...you and I speak from the vantage point of trying to explain a film, but all we see is one single frame of the film, of the entire picture and then trying to explain what the film is about and the plot of the story. But by discussing, we become more aware and open to anything that may link an idea to create a better understanding.

We are now discussing the structure of existence at the core of the universe, energy and energies and how it all works....a mystery lol, especially when you throw in the observer effect.

Each individual particle is a particle of energy and each individual particle is alive in it's own way. It vibrates and moves around within its tiny sphere of influence yet at the same time it's connected to the universal consciousness, and the universal consciousness is connected to our subconscious, but we are not aware of it in the now...it's too complicated for us in our limited belief systems.

Our energy is who we are and it has knowledge and the mechanics are totally different and hard to observe right now with the given knowledge. A past life can be a particle part of another level of energy connected to our living infinity as one but separate.

To elaborate further about our energies transferring at death, what we are doing is simply vibrationally connecting this particle part of a group of particles within atoms, and connecting to a force that attracts our overall vibration that the atoms and particles consist of...the vibrational rate. So what happens here in our earthly lifetime, determines which vibrational rate our atoms and particles will travel next as we are in this separate form. These atoms only belong to me because I observe it that way consciously and subconsciously...as to form a splinter part of the whole in which it accumulates knowledge and journey's to higher and lower existences.

Because of our vibrational rate we are here. All that happens when we move away from this plane of existence or vibration, is that we speed up, stay in the same range, or slow down and go in the respective direction in accordance with how our energies transfer and attract.

We are energy patterns coded with information, on an etheric level expressed here in the physical level. Our individualized and collective energy patterns contains a different set of knowledge which pretty makes up where we are, who we are, and where we are going. We live, we learn. We learn and discover new things and realize we have more learning to do in a fractal sense...never ending.

I don't see it as a way of survival in terms of consciousness, because consciousness is energy on the etheric level. It's more of a journey to experience, learn, evolve and possible to help the survival of our species right now on Earth.
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Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CST SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGOUS
mikey12654
mikey12654mikey12654Vancouver, Washington USA2 Threads 127 Posts
GirlWednesday: But.... what if you are wrong?



I can guarantee you that I'm not! Also, I feel I'm very fortunate to know what awaits me when I leave this physical plane. I will also say that I'm lucky to know why we're all here, also, I can tell you that we all made the choice to come here for specific lessons to be learned so that we further develop our spirit/soul.
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