Men fear commitment more than women do (27)

Jul 30, 2009 3:43 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
freemind63
freemind63freemind63Mellieha, Majjistral Malta7 Threads 234 Posts
well, I'm told.

If so, why?
Jul 30, 2009 3:55 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
freemind63: well, I'm told.

If so, why?



I don't think either gender fear commitment more than the other, it's an individual thing more than anything.

Personally, I don't fear commitment, just a bit wary of committing to the wrong person, but you never know 'til you try.

Don't let fear stop you.grin
Jul 30, 2009 6:50 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
kidatheart: I don't think either gender fear commitment more than the other, it's an individual thing more than anything.

Personally, I don't fear commitment, just a bit wary of committing to the wrong person, but you never know 'til you try.

Don't let fear stop you.
totaly agree ..... if there is a fear its because of past commitments that went wrong so naturally there would be reluctance there, but if we don,t try we dont get..wine
Jul 31, 2009 5:30 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
RobertC2: Mumsie!

hmmm robert I reckon you'd be harder work then my kids! xx
Jul 31, 2009 5:43 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
In general I would say yes.
Jul 31, 2009 5:45 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
solsticemoon: hmmm robert I reckon you'd be harder work then my kids! xx


You betcha! Kids don't DEMAND bed baths! tongue
Jul 31, 2009 5:47 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Oh you wnat to know why...laugh

boys play cowboys and indians
girls play house.

simple.
Jul 31, 2009 5:49 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
Relationships are two-way.

They can never be exactly 50/50 - at least not 100% of the time.

What on earth is there to be scared of if you are both committed to each other?

Nothing!

It's only when one person starts questioning the commitment of the other that, generally speaking, things can go wrong.

Men and women just need to accept that they are 'trapped' by the love they have for one another - and accept and enjoy it¬!

Easier said than done - I know....... and there ARE things that can come between two people that eclipse commitment; sad, but sometimes true.
Jul 31, 2009 5:58 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
expat2be
expat2beexpat2beZierikzee, Zeeland Netherlands12 Threads 396 Posts
RobertC2: It's only when one person starts questioning the commitment of the other that, generally speaking, things can go wrong.


I'd rather say, when the scales are being put on the table and one starts weighting what each and one does compared to the other. And when things like "look what I'm doing for you! and you? you do nothing!"

Things go wrong when one says "I don't wont to change so stop trying to make me change"

Things go wrong when one expects too much and not so much happens.

But most of the times things go wrong when there is no communication.
Sep 4, 2009 10:57 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
RobertC2: Relationships are two-way.

They can never be exactly 50/50 - at least not 100% of the time.

What on earth is there to be scared of if you are both committed to each other?

Nothing!

It's only when one person starts questioning the commitment of the other that, generally speaking, things can go wrong.

Men and women just need to accept that they are 'trapped' by the love they have for one another - and accept and enjoy it¬!
Unfortunatly dome people don't..for what ever reason they fight their feelings..Just go with the flow...

Easier said than done - I know....... and there ARE things that can come between two people that eclipse commitment; sad, but sometimes true.

Only if you let it...
Sep 4, 2009 11:24 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
brucedavis57
brucedavis57brucedavis57south st. Paul, Minnesota USA10 Threads 132 Posts
some people have a problem with closeness and intimacy. The closer they are to someone the more they will pull away. Pshyciatric kind of problem. they are incapable of hving what we all need most, a close loving raltionship. I have been in and out of reltionships over my life. Not been there in several years though. I felt more alive even if the relationship didn't end well. Not desperate but looking foreward to my next adventure. Problems with closeness has nothing to do with gender.cheers
Sep 10, 2009 5:23 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
gangel
gangelgangelPlovdiv, Bulgaria, Hampshire, England UK52 Threads 16 Polls 5,028 Posts
freemind63: well, I'm told.

If so, why?


Men fear commitment more than women do, is one of the most common stands for nervous women who maintain men are indecisive..cheers
Sep 10, 2009 7:47 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Men fear commitment more than women do, is one of the most common stands for nervous women who maintain men are indecisive..[/quote]Quite! A guy asks which pair of socks he should wear .....! and whatever the answer he is then happy!grin
Sep 10, 2009 10:46 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Fearing commitment.... I don't think it is gender based..........

Does that have anything to do with people coming to visit your profile every day but never contacting you?

Does it then progress to sending you a flower or mail?

When you answer to thank them, does it mean they never write again but continue to look at your profile nearly every day?

That was tongue in cheek about the subject matter, but I do wonder sometimes, if fear of commitment extends to behaviour around how some socialise with people on the internet, even from the comfort and relative safety and anonymity of their own homes.
Sep 10, 2009 12:57 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
rimowa
rimowarimowaLuxembourg, Luxembourg1 Threads 20 Posts
gingerb: Fearing commitment.... I don't think it is gender based..........

Does that have anything to do with people coming to visit your profile every day but never contacting you?

Does it then progress to sending you a flower or mail?

When you answer to thank them, does it mean they never write again but continue to look at your profile nearly every day?

That was tongue in cheek about the subject matter, but I do wonder sometimes, if fear of commitment extends to behaviour around how some socialise with people on the internet, even from the comfort and relative safety and anonymity of their own homes.



Quite frankly I have always had a problem understanding this phrase 'fear of commitment'. How shall I express it... well, all my life I have kind of drifted from doing one thing to doing another thing. No apathy here...in fact with great gusto I have pursued all my most eclectic paths but sooner or later tired of them. It never occured to me that that I was "committing to something" whenever these course changes occured. (This frankly sounds like an awful self-indictment). But clearly I had no understanding of the word 'commitment'...I was never taught the importance of the notion. In its place I probably had a "Born Free" cavalier attitude towards life.

However, I am approaching this matter from quite a different corner than yours. Let's take it step at a time. "Gender based" - well, each and every one of the times I've taken an interest in a woman and decided to pursue it I have never been more frightened in my life. That is why every kind response led to my falling precipitously in love with all the women, most by far, being nice to me.

As far as CS behaviour goes, typically I have few visits; far fewer flowers and ever so rarely an email. And yet when I do receive these treasured communications they are from rather obvious hustlers, semi-literate in communication and incredibly unable to suggest starting a correspondence or meeting for a drink or even exchanging more information about each other. I wonder why on earth did they send me a message. However, whenever my mailbox or flowerbox is red I feel I have hit the jackpot. The rest of the day I lie face to the wall.

Commitment is a word I associate more with money-grubbing activities...someone wanting to climb the professional ladder at any cost; some civil servant brown-nosing his way up bureaucracies and so on. They commit - they commit themselves to self-abasing acts of unfathomable depths in order to "advance" in life and status.

In relationships fear of commitment makes sense to me only when one or the other person involved is already in some kind of relationship and justifiably weighs the risks of a radical change in life.

Iwish I could carry on this discussion with you further but thereis some doubt that you will ever even get this message.

ever,

R
Sep 14, 2009 6:47 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
rimowa
rimowarimowaLuxembourg, Luxembourg1 Threads 20 Posts
gangel: Sorry




You are right.

In these matters there are so few strict definitions of words and phrases meaning something universally understood.

There are evolutionary reasons why females will commit after careful evaluation towards males than the other way around. (Read Darwin or Dawkins).

Do keep in touch.

ever,

R
Sep 16, 2009 5:58 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
rimowa: --------------------------------------------------------------

Quite frankly I have always had a problem understanding this phrase 'fear of commitment'. How shall I express it... well, all my life I have kind of drifted from doing one thing to doing another thing. No apathy here...in fact with great gusto I have pursued all my most eclectic paths but sooner or later tired of them. It never occured to me that that I was "committing to something" whenever these course changes occured. (This frankly sounds like an awful self-indictment). But clearly I had no understanding of the word 'commitment'...I was never taught the importance of the notion. In its place I probably had a "Born Free" cavalier attitude towards life.

However, I am approaching this matter from quite a different corner than yours. Let's take it step at a time. "Gender based" - well, each and every one of the times I've taken an interest in a woman and decided to pursue it I have never been more frightened in my life. That is why every kind response led to my falling precipitously in love with all the women, most by far, being nice to me.

As far as CS behaviour goes, typically I have few visits; far fewer flowers and ever so rarely an email. And yet when I do receive these treasured communications they are from rather obvious hustlers, semi-literate in communication and incredibly unable to suggest starting a correspondence or meeting for a drink or even exchanging more information about each other. I wonder why on earth did they send me a message. However, whenever my mailbox or flowerbox is red I feel I have hit the jackpot. The rest of the day I lie face to the wall.

Commitment is a word I associate more with money-grubbing activities...someone wanting to climb the professional ladder at any cost; some civil servant brown-nosing his way up bureaucracies and so on. They commit - they commit themselves to self-abasing acts of unfathomable depths in order to "advance" in life and status.

In relationships fear of commitment makes sense to me only when one or the other person involved is already in some kind of relationship and justifiably weighs the risks of a radical change in life.

Iwish I could carry on this discussion with you further but thereis some doubt that you will ever even get this message.
ever,

R


What a condescending load of crud..........rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 16, 2009 6:26 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
Kullsyre
KullsyreKullsyreValle, Aust-Agder Norway2 Posts
I think its in the genes. Women tend to (more than men) to want to build a home and have children. Men are maybe more prone to "look for something even better" - over the horizon - But then again, we,re all different.
Sep 17, 2009 11:56 AM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Kullsyre: I think its in the genes. Women tend to (more than men) to want to build a home and have children. Men are maybe more prone to "look for something even better" - over the horizon - But then again, we,re all different.


There is something in what you say, not in the genes maybe, but in tradition, in that men often have to think about being the breadwinners for a family for the next 20 years, and that is often enough to make them run for cover, or just not commit in the first place.

In the 21st century though, women are also breadwinners, so they have to think like men did traditionally, and it might also be part of why they don't commit.

In my opinion though, women's fear of commitment comes from a different source. They are less likely to commit because of the attitudes of some men regarding monogamy and devotion to one partner, or lack of that commitment these days. Sometimes that works vice versa too, depending on the experience the man has had with previous women.wine
Sep 17, 2009 12:27 PM CST Men fear commitment more than women do
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
gingerb: There is something in what you say, not in the genes maybe, but in tradition, in that men often have to think about being the breadwinners for a family for the next 20 years, and that is often enough to make them run for cover, or just not commit in the first place.

In the 21st century though, women are also breadwinners, so they have to think like men did traditionally, and it might also be part of why they don't commit.

In my opinion though, women's fear of commitment comes from a different source. They are less likely to commit because of the attitudes of some men regarding monogamy and devotion to one partner, or lack of that commitment these days. Sometimes that works vice versa too, depending on the experience the man has had with previous women.


My sentiments entirely. Cowards. they be aarrgh




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