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Aug 23, 2009 7:51 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
This came up in conversation earlier with some friends of mine and Id like to hear your views .


We'd have to be blind and stupid to never notice race. People can still see individuals as well as their race and respond in an appropriate manner. And denying the race is denying the person as an individual. Race is a large part of who we are, and people shold be able to feel good about where they come from, racially, ethnically, whatever.

In my opinion what you do and how you respond to people--whatever their race--is a determining factor, not that you noticed they have a different skin color. In certain instances I am loathe to criticise people who engage in some sort of 'profiling' - at least criticize them 'in a blanket' sense. Let's be realistic - on a certain level it has nothing to do with race. If people over the years were instigating and performing terrorist acts, and they all happened to be from Iceland, we'd all be looking suspiciously at people whose last name was their father's first name. I also beleive what many people don't realise is that often it is the clothes and attitudes that people are afraid of, not the skin color. I know if I saw a menacing looking white guy walking towards me, his skin color would be of no comfort at all .

So how do you rate your city, country, part of the world ?


wine
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Aug 23, 2009 7:54 AM CST Racial Blindness
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
australia is so multi cultral its gr8 and on the most part every one gets on fantastic ....and yeah on the whole its a very safe part of the world ..... never feel threatned at all wine
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Aug 23, 2009 8:05 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
saseez: australia is so multi cultral its gr8 and on the most part every one gets on fantastic ....and yeah on the whole its a very safe part of the world ..... never feel threatned at all



Iv also heard this about you guys .Peace keepers and all that .Is there a reason ? or is this just the way things are there .wine
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Aug 23, 2009 8:09 AM CST Racial Blindness
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
dillydally: Iv also heard this about you guys .Peace keepers and all that .Is there a reason ? or is this just the way things are there .
we just try to get on with anyone and im definatly not the type tofeel threatened by anyone .... i think we are just more relaxed country ...wine
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Aug 23, 2009 8:10 AM CST Racial Blindness
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
All my countries are multicultural. Do they all have same "right"? No, notwithstanding having same RIGHTS!

Im here to multiculturise it all! dancing
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Aug 23, 2009 8:11 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
My friend Vonnies view .



>I mean really how many Jewish kids do you see going arond robbing, slashing, "wilding"? And what group more than any other has little negative to say about rap lyrics that endorse killing cops, forcing themselves on "my ho," ect ?<

Bill Cosby has a lot to say about this as well and one thing he says is that the black community needs to start speaking out against thsoe within it who make the good slice of the population look bad because the extreme slice gets all the coverage .
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Aug 23, 2009 8:19 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
cristina: All my countries are multicultural. Do they all have same "right"? No, notwithstanding having same RIGHTS!

Im here to multiculturise it all!



Hey you wave
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Aug 23, 2009 8:25 AM CST Racial Blindness
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
dillydally: Hey you


And the food and other products bring from multiculturalism?mmmm...lekkeeeeer!

My German friend asks me stuff only imported to here!wink
Imagine supermarkets only full of varied potatos?help

laugh

hug
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Aug 23, 2009 8:48 AM CST Racial Blindness
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
I don't got by race myself, but I noticed that people from the same race do tend to stick together except in marriage where the different races most likely mix. conversing In my city, one race is predominate in the south and the other race in the north. Each race wear similar clothing and use the same lingo. So each race is unique, and that is why I don't judge one race by comparing them to another race. A good guy is a good guy and a bad guy is a bad guy, nothing to do with race. beer
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Aug 23, 2009 8:51 AM CST Racial Blindness
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
cameraman: I don't got by race myself, but I noticed that people from the same race do tend to stick together except in marriage where the different races most likely mix. In my city, one race is predominate in the south and the other race in the north. Each race wear similar clothing and use the same lingo. So each race is unique, and that is why I don't judge one race by comparing them to another race. A good guy is a good guy and a bad guy is a bad guy, nothing to do with race.


In USA, races are institutions, that's why.cheers

Race issue really varies all around the world!
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Aug 23, 2009 8:52 AM CST Racial Blindness
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
pointing not a full blooded Jew...just Jew-ish
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Aug 23, 2009 8:56 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
cristina: And the food and other products bring from multiculturalism?mmmm...lekkeeeeer!

My German friend asks me stuff only imported to here!
Imagine supermarkets only full of varied potatos?





laugh People seem to think all we Scots eat is porridge and haggis .That and we all have red hair and wear kilts .Lemme assure the people , that wearing Kilts in Scotland is the best thing about here .All those high force winds are welcome .Plenty of flashing to keep me entertained laugh
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Aug 23, 2009 8:59 AM CST Racial Blindness
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
cristina: In USA, races are institutions, that's why.

Race issue really varies all around the world!


Yeah... Two major events took place in the USA that institutionalize race. conversing Glad we got over that and became a melting pot again. cheers
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Aug 23, 2009 9:01 AM CST Racial Blindness
deroderidder
deroderidderderoderidderzwijndrecht, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 303 Posts
dillydally: People seem to think all we Scots eat is porridge and haggis .That and we all have red hair and wear kilts .Lemme assure the people , that wearing Kilts in Scotland is the best thing about here .All those high force winds are welcome .Plenty of flashing to keep me entertained


laugh
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Aug 23, 2009 9:13 AM CST Racial Blindness
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
race!!its a good one to get noticed either in a positive way or a negative way.Am Indian and have been to US..seen the cultural differences in a racial way on both the countries.
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Aug 23, 2009 9:24 AM CST Racial Blindness
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
dillydally: This came up in conversation earlier with some friends of mine and Id like to hear your views . We'd have to be blind and stupid to never notice race. People can still see individuals as well as their race and respond in an appropriate manner. And denying the race is denying the person as an individual. Race is a large part of who we are, and people shold be able to feel good about where they come from, racially, ethnically, whatever.

In my opinion what you do and how you respond to people--whatever their race--is a determining factor, not that you noticed they have a different skin color. In certain instances I am loathe to criticise people who engage in some sort of 'profiling' - at least criticize them 'in a blanket' sense. Let's be realistic - on a certain level it has nothing to do with race. If people over the years were instigating and performing terrorist acts, and they all happened to be from Iceland, we'd all be looking suspiciously at people whose last name was their father's first name. I also beleive what many people don't realise is that often it is the clothes and attitudes that people are afraid of, not the skin color. I know if I saw a menacing looking white guy walking towards me, his skin color would be of no comfort at all .

So how do you rate your city, country, part of the world ?


I`m not white...but i love jokes about all kind of races

I`m a Christian..but love jokes about Christianity

Hate Terrorism of all kind ..but they did`nt become terrorist without no reason
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Aug 23, 2009 9:26 AM CST Racial Blindness
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
dillydally: Long time no see


I´m on and off when I get to the internet cafe... waiting for my internet connection to get hooked up at home. Good to see you. wave
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Aug 23, 2009 9:28 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
From the BBC on the July 23rd .


The US president has said police acted "stupidly" when they arrested a black Harvard scholar outside his own home.

Prof Henry Louis Gates was held last week in Cambridge, Massachusetts, home to the top university where he teaches.

Barack Obama said the US had a long history of African-Americans being disproportionately stopped by police.

Officers were called to Prof Gates's house after a woman reported seeing two black males - the professor and his driver - trying to force entry.

Although the exact facts of the incident are disputed, Prof Gates was arrested outside his home after providing the officer with identification.

Mr Obama said: "I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry.

"Number two... the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home."

An initial disorderly conduct charge was dropped and Cambridge police called the arrest "regrettable and unfortunate".

'Rogue policeman'

Mr Obama said federal officials should work with local police to "improve policing techniques so that we're eliminating potential bias".

He said that when he was in the Illinois state legislature, he had worked towards a racial profiling bill because there was indisputable evidence that African-Americans and Hispanics were being stopped disproportionately.

"And that is a sign, an example of how race remains a factor in the society," he said.

Prof Gates has said he was "outraged" by the arrest and called the officer, Sgt James Crowley, a "rogue policeman". Sgt Crowley has refused to apologise.

During the confrontation between the two men, the 58-year-old professor reportedly said: "This is what happens to black men in America."

His lawyer said Prof Gates had just returned from a trip overseas and, upon arriving at the property with a driver, found his front door jammed and had to force it open.

By the time police arrived at the house, he and the driver had managed to get inside the property.

According to police, Prof Gates shouted at the officer and accused him of racial bias.
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Aug 23, 2009 9:29 AM CST Racial Blindness
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
dillydally: People seem to think all we Scots eat is porridge and haggis .That and we all have red hair and wear kilts .Lemme assure the people , that wearing Kilts in Scotland is the best thing about here .All those high force winds are welcome .Plenty of flashing to keep me entertained


You don't eat porridge and haggis?

How can you explain your lovely skin complexion then?

confused batting
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Aug 23, 2009 9:35 AM CST Racial Blindness
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
Boban1: I`m not white...but i love jokes about all kind of races

I`m a Christian..but love jokes about Christianity

Hate Terrorism of all kind ..but they did`nt become terrorist without no reason



I too read and do those jokes .This was why my friends and I started this conversation .After I admitted I wouldn't tell a certain joke to a certain person unless I knew them enough to know they wont react badly towards the joke .


As I said to my friend earlier about Icelandic terrorists, gang attire isnt what is feared *per se*. It's the common denominator. If gang members all wore lungi we'd probaly run away from that.

I'm not saying it's right to look askance at someone because they are Arab or Muslim or black--but it is the reality that this common denominator exists, and people outside those groups should not be the only ones held responsible for their behaviors. Elders, leaders, etc within the group need to take the groups back from the thugs--that is what Cosby is advocating .
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