Is Our Life Pre-Determined? (146)
CatsruleChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand4 PostsA very interesting question. My own belief is that when we come to the earth plain yes we have things we would like to achieve, learn, move on from or grow. The how we go about it is free will. If we could go from A to B in a direct route wouldn't it be nice? However, most us seem to always choose the tourist route lol. I hope my perspective helps.
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Dmire: Definately ,we have a choice to make.For example , if i were to choose to do evil,i expect the repercussions.Likewise, if i choose to do good,i will reap what i sow.In other word the graph is not drawn, but we draw it everyday
damn dude that's good.
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AsleepInNJ: damn dude that's good.
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AsleepInNJ: damn dude that's good.
Are you serious? That's what I said to you. This guy just chose words you could understand. Bravo!
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OneKitty: Are you serious? That's what I said to you. This guy just chose words you could understand. Bravo!
got your back up again i see.
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Well, I believe in fate. Our life is predetermined. And we get what has been determined for us already. Means, we try very hard to get something, but if that thing is not for us, we can never achieve it and sometime, we are not even looking for something but we get it so easily, because it was written for us.
However, I do not deny efforts, efforts are necessary. One elderly person was asked, should we just sit on our fate or we should do attempt. Then that elderly people asked the questioner, lift up your foot, he lifted the foot, then he said, lift other one, he said, I cannot lift up both feet at the same time. So the elderly people explained, this is your effort that you can lift one foot at a time, and this is your fate that you cannot lift both at a time.
So, I believe in FATE + EFFORTS. So anything, you cannot achieve no matter how much do your effort is your fate and whatever you achieve without effort is your fate.
I will quote another example, suppose there is a cat, it knows a place where it will get food. So one day it feels hungry and goes to that place but unfortunately, there is no food for it this time, so it comes back and on the way back, it luckily finds food. Because that food was in its fate.
Sorry, this is confusing, also my english is poor. But I like the topic
However, I do not deny efforts, efforts are necessary. One elderly person was asked, should we just sit on our fate or we should do attempt. Then that elderly people asked the questioner, lift up your foot, he lifted the foot, then he said, lift other one, he said, I cannot lift up both feet at the same time. So the elderly people explained, this is your effort that you can lift one foot at a time, and this is your fate that you cannot lift both at a time.
So, I believe in FATE + EFFORTS. So anything, you cannot achieve no matter how much do your effort is your fate and whatever you achieve without effort is your fate.
I will quote another example, suppose there is a cat, it knows a place where it will get food. So one day it feels hungry and goes to that place but unfortunately, there is no food for it this time, so it comes back and on the way back, it luckily finds food. Because that food was in its fate.
Sorry, this is confusing, also my english is poor. But I like the topic
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I spend alot of time alone and I ponder these things, sometimes I think we have freewill and sometimes I think we have a destiny. When I hear or read about other peoples stories it seems they were destined from the get go to get where they are, I don't know I am starting to lean towards destiny because it seems whenever I try to take charge with free-will I take a steps back.
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the7thanswer: I spend alot of time alone and I ponder these things, sometimes I think we have freewill and sometimes I think we have a destiny. When I hear or read about other peoples stories it seems they were destined from the get go to get where they are, I don't know I am starting to lean towards destiny because it seems whenever I try to take charge with free-will I take a steps back.
Sometimes we have to take a few back to keep moving forward
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The Bible say's for now are we the predestined son's Of God . Predestined only means we are predestined to Live with God but we Have free will to chose . The bible say's no one can take you out of my hand But by free will we can jump out of his hand and void predestination . Love ya all
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Sometimes I believe my fate is to be ravaged by exotic ladies from all over the world, but then I pray to God in Heaven above to bring me just one good woman to take me away from this hedonistic life of meaningless pleasure.
She is coming to me.......... I feel it in my water!
She is coming to me.......... I feel it in my water!
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RobertC2: Sometimes I believe my fate is to be ravaged by exotic ladies from all over the world, but then I pray to God in Heaven above to bring me just one good woman to take me away from this hedonistic life of meaningless pleasure.
She is coming to me.......... I feel it in my water!
She is coming to me.......... I feel it in my water!
Are you looking for a mermaid (Just Kidding) there is someone out there and when they show up you will have a beautiful. The Bible say's without Hope we would be of all men Most Misserable . Good Luck
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AsleepInNJ: do the choices we make in our life affect the end result or is everything pre-determined? is there such a thing as 'fate'? discuss.
No...everything is possible and impossible if you believe it. There is no fixed destiny...doors are there to walk through...
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lonelycowboy101: The Bible say's for now are we the predestined son's Of God . Predestined only means we are predestined to Live with God but we Have free will to chose . The bible say's no one can take you out of my hand But by free will we can jump out of his hand and void predestination . Love ya all
What God?
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AsleepInNJ: but how do you know for sure?
Because choices and actions gives us the sureness...our fate is determined by our choices and actions...not no imaginary God or divine force...we control our destinies...how hard is that to believe? There is an infinite amount of realities deeply entrenched with infinity...
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I hate to discuss religion . So please don't get offended but a lot of scientist are now stating that there hast to be A force keeping all the universe working in order. they did a study and the chances of everything in the universe happening by accident was Impossable . We are not just an accident of nature .
cheers:
cheers: StressFree: Because choices and actions gives us the sureness...our fate is determined by our choices and actions...not no imaginary God or divine force...we control our destinies...how hard is that to believe? There is an infinite amount of realities deeply entrenched with infinity...
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lonelycowboy101: I hate to discuss religion . So please don't get offended but a lot of scientist are now stating that there hast to be A force keeping all the universe working in order. they did a study and the chances of everything in the universe happening by accident was Impossable . We are not just an accident of nature . cheers:
What? Scientists all of the sudden have the truth locked down? What scientists? That force is called infinite energy with a set of laws and unknown properties that are impossible for anyone to understand...
You go back...jack...do it again dude...
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lonelycowboy101: We are not just an accident of nature . cheers:
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That's so false man. No cheers on that one...
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StressFree: That's so false man. No cheers on that one...
Haveing this universe working like it does is like haveing an explosion in home depo and all the stuff flying in the air then comming down in perfect order with the bricks falling and the morter in between all the blocks the board and nails fAlling plumbing and wireing falling into place and all you haft to do is move in . I don't expect you to understand though Inteligen people go up and look at all the fact then make an inteligent deduction if you would look most scientist believe in a superme power keeping things organized . The chance of all this happening by acciden are impossable .
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lonelycowboy101: Haveing this universe working like it does is like haveing an explosion in home depo and all the stuff flying in the air then comming down in perfect order with the bricks falling and the morter in between all the blocks the board and nails fAlling plumbing and wireing falling into place and all you haft to do is move in . I don't expect you to understand though Inteligen people go up and look at all the fact then make an inteligent deduction if you would look most scientist believe in a superme power keeping things organized . The chance of all this happening by acciden are impossable .
Bad analogy and it doesn't hold. That's not how the universe works...do it again.
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