If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden? ( Archived) (71)

Sep 12, 2009 10:27 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
This matter had not previously come to my mind

We believe that;Adam has sinned, and God is expelled him from heaven as a punishment.

That was only sin of Adam.But God did not forgive him.

Why?

So how we believe that our sins forgiven ?

And the Christians saying, Christ died for the sins how they can believethat ?

I am waiting yours comments with curiously
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Sep 12, 2009 10:38 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
ladyfingers
ladyfingersladyfingersclovis, nm, New Mexico USA261 Threads 1 Polls 5,456 Posts
God told Adam that if he ate the fruit of the tree, he would die.
Adam disobeyed the only commandment that God had given him.
His punishment was being cast out of Eden.



You are opening a can of worms, be prepared.
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Sep 12, 2009 10:38 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
God made the rules that condemned everyone and Christ fulfilled the rules and saved everyone. Forgiveness now granted.
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Sep 12, 2009 10:51 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
cameraman: God made the rules that condemned everyone and Christ fulfilled the rules and saved everyone. Forgiveness now granted.


So what would be the status of peoples who died before Jesus ?
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Sep 12, 2009 10:57 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
ladyfingers
ladyfingersladyfingersclovis, nm, New Mexico USA261 Threads 1 Polls 5,456 Posts
mmusa: So what would be the status of peoples who died before Jesus ?


I guess they are going to get a second chance.

Anyway, I think that if a person lives up to their beliefs and believes there is a God (Allah), they will get to heaven (not really a place).
JMO
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Sep 12, 2009 10:58 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
ladyfingers: God told Adam that if he ate the fruit of the tree, he would die.
Adam disobeyed the only commandment that God had given him.
His punishment was being cast out of Eden.
You are opening a can of worms, be prepared.


Ok we agree.I am a faithful one. But why God choose to punish...

Why did not forgive
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Sep 12, 2009 10:59 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
'cause God can't stand cheaters. Punishment is the consequence for any disobedience. No forgiveness. Man invented forgiveness, not God!laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

hole
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Sep 12, 2009 11:00 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
BrunoMcMahon
BrunoMcMahonBrunoMcMahonHardwick, Vermont USA20 Threads 3 Polls 733 Posts
He and Eve broke the terms of their lease:




Mae West 1937. This show caused a huge uproar at the time.
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Sep 12, 2009 11:02 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
PHUL_MONTY
PHUL_MONTYPHUL_MONTYBotulism, Ontario Canada14 Posts
Well I believe in THE GREAT PUMPKIN and he would never throw someone out of a garden unless they were eating the roses...
God loves you so he must punish you....He's my kinda guy.....
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.Psalm 137:9
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Sep 12, 2009 11:03 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
cristina: 'cause God can't stand cheaters. Punishment is the consequence for any disobedience. No forgiveness. Man invented forgiveness, not God!


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 12, 2009 11:05 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
BrunoMcMahon: He and Eve broke the terms of their lease:
West 1937. This show caused a huge uproar at the time.



laugh
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Sep 12, 2009 11:10 AM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
A much better question is, can Superman fly faster than the speed of light?
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Sep 12, 2009 12:15 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
ooby_dooby: A much better question is, can Superman fly faster than the speed of light?
Nope,his Head would melt!laugh
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Sep 12, 2009 12:19 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
mmusa: So what would be the status of peoples who died before Jesus ?


Everyone has to go to hades after they die and await judgment which takes place at the end of the world. Jesus went to hades for three days to tell them the Gospel when he died.
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Sep 12, 2009 12:32 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa: This matter had not previously come to my mind

We believe that;Adam has sinned, and God is expelled him from heaven as a punishment.

That was only sin of Adam.But God did not forgive him.

Why?

So how we believe that our sins forgiven ?

And the Christians saying, Christ died for the sins how they can believethat ?

I am waiting yours comments with curiously
god is merciful and kind he knows well than all of us.





Q#1 - Answer
Adam Sins.
Adam's sin, and its outcome is depicted in the following verse of the Quran:
"O Adam dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then Satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said:

'Your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.'

And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them:

'Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was your avowed enemy?' " (Quran 7:19-22).

Q#2 - Answer :Essa.A.S (Jesus christ)did not any sin he was a great prophet of God and god sent to us for our guidnes.
He is only alive prophet and will come back to the world.
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Sep 12, 2009 12:51 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
So now Adam sins,and I have to pick up the Bill!
What a crappy Idea of Morality and Justice!
He might not even have been my Ancestor,in spite of what some say!scold
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Sep 12, 2009 1:14 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
mmusa
mmusammusaTrabzon, Blacksea Turkey1 Threads 33 Posts
Ali , elhamdülillah I am muslim too. I belive like your said .

But here no answer about the , Why Allah is not prefer forgive.

I have a question to you.

Two days later, the night of Kadir.But this is not certain.Other nights (Berat_Regaip_Miraç) dates are openly but Kadir is not why?

1. We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power.

Allah said that.But Allah revealed kuran among 23 years.And usually daytime.

So why Allah said "in the Night of Power"
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Sep 12, 2009 3:41 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
guide
guideguidethessaloniki, Central Macedonia Greece50 Posts
If i remember well, after Adam ate the apple, God called him and Adam lied to God. Adam was not punished for eating the fruit but for lying to God and trying to blame Eve for his fault, instead of asking for forgiveness. God still gave him (and all humans) the option to return to the initial condition he was before getting the material body.
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Sep 12, 2009 3:51 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
guide: If i remember well, after Adam ate the apple, God called him and Adam lied to God. Adam was not punished for eating the fruit but for lying to God and trying to blame Eve for his fault, instead of asking for forgiveness. God still gave him (and all humans) the option to return to the initial condition he was before getting the material body.
Made of Clay,yet a Disembodied Spirit!
Make up your mind!doh
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Sep 12, 2009 3:58 PM CST If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden?
callibya
callibyacallibyamalta, Majjistral Malta5 Threads 157 Posts
guide: If i remember well, after Adam ate the apple, God called him and Adam lied to God. Adam was not punished for eating the fruit but for lying to God and trying to blame Eve for his fault, instead of asking for forgiveness. God still gave him (and all humans) the option to return to the initial condition he was before getting the material body.


oh!!! so thats why we're always blame women for our sins! our Father Adam did it before !!! grin




"O Adam dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then Satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said:

'Your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.'

And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them:

'Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was your avowed enemy?' " (Quran 7:19-22).


it was no lies my friend!!!
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