If God is very forgiving, why Adam was immediately expelled from the Garden? (71)
Conrad73: ...and then HE went and booted him out of Eden!
No , subject matter like was this.God is expelled Adam from the paradise because of sin .Then forgive him selected him as the prophet.
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According to a school of thought (most modern and logical I find):
Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
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looking4bride: According to a school of thought (most modern and logical I find):
Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
OH, there is intelligent life out there after all
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Because it's just a story.....
try to look at Sumerian's legends, you will understand.
try to look at Sumerian's legends, you will understand.
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looking4bride: According to a school of thought (most modern and logical I find):
Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
Simply denotes the start of Mideastern Civilization.Adam is not the first human but the first prophet of this era came only about 6000 years ago. This is a metaphorical scenario to guide human in eternal, ever recurrent events. When they followed God's Rules, they lived in garden means they lived in peace. When they broke the rule they were out of garden means lived with out peace. They became naked means spiritually suffered. They covered private parts with leafs means they prayed for mercy after a sin and recovered spiritually.
Thanks.
Zobair
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mmusa: This matter had not previously come to my mind
We believe that;Adam has sinned, and God is expelled him from heaven as a punishment.
That was only sin of Adam.But God did not forgive him.
Why?
So how we believe that our sins forgiven ?
And the Christians saying, Christ died for the sins how they can believethat ?
I am waiting yours comments with curiously
We believe that;Adam has sinned, and God is expelled him from heaven as a punishment.
That was only sin of Adam.But God did not forgive him.
Why?
So how we believe that our sins forgiven ?
And the Christians saying, Christ died for the sins how they can believethat ?
I am waiting yours comments with curiously
First he wasn't expelled from heaven . He was put out of the garden
and he was given a chance to Love God By his own will. God always had a plan to redeam man. Now all the sin's that happened before Christ were rolled ahead one year at a time When the priest would go in and make attoinment for the people the sin would be rolled ahead until the time that Christ died on the cross forgiving all sins . It was like an I O U until the bill was paid .
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Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me...
Although you talk of peace...Jesus is the only way, the truth and life...He loves even you though you may reject him in your heart ... He came for sinners like you and me...
But Satan hates you very much.. He hates all of us including the demons he "PIMPS".... Open you heart to Christ and he will see you through... He has to be written on your heart...
Hell is a place of eternal separation from God, and people go there when they die because they chose to separate themselves from God while living on earth. God created us with the free will to make our own choices, and separating ourselves from God is one of the choices we are free to make. Our free will is a wonderful gift from God in that He does not force us to love Him or to follow Him. Without our free will, we would be nothing but puppets or robots, which does not please God, and certainly does nothing to better our lives.
While God desires that everyone would choose to love Him, some people will choose not to. These people will die in their sins and be separated from God forever in hell. Many would say that this is unfair, and that a loving God would never set up a system such as this; however, it is precisely God's love for us, and the fact that He is perfectly just, that tells us why hell exists, and why men and women will choose to go there. God loves us so much that He respects our freedom of choice. If we choose not to love Him, then why would He want to force us to live with Him eternally in heaven? Wouldn't living for eternity with someone we don't love be hell anyway? God wants to spare those people who don't love Him from having to live with Him and be under His rule for eternity.
Although you talk of peace...Jesus is the only way, the truth and life...He loves even you though you may reject him in your heart ... He came for sinners like you and me...
But Satan hates you very much.. He hates all of us including the demons he "PIMPS".... Open you heart to Christ and he will see you through... He has to be written on your heart...
Hell is a place of eternal separation from God, and people go there when they die because they chose to separate themselves from God while living on earth. God created us with the free will to make our own choices, and separating ourselves from God is one of the choices we are free to make. Our free will is a wonderful gift from God in that He does not force us to love Him or to follow Him. Without our free will, we would be nothing but puppets or robots, which does not please God, and certainly does nothing to better our lives.
While God desires that everyone would choose to love Him, some people will choose not to. These people will die in their sins and be separated from God forever in hell. Many would say that this is unfair, and that a loving God would never set up a system such as this; however, it is precisely God's love for us, and the fact that He is perfectly just, that tells us why hell exists, and why men and women will choose to go there. God loves us so much that He respects our freedom of choice. If we choose not to love Him, then why would He want to force us to live with Him eternally in heaven? Wouldn't living for eternity with someone we don't love be hell anyway? God wants to spare those people who don't love Him from having to live with Him and be under His rule for eternity.
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And of course there are people like myself who think there is not even the slightest chance of there being a one god or so called one creator.
Not even a buckles...
For thousand of years people have been killing each other in places like Afghanistan, why? Because the beings there have taking rebirth created by cause and affect for that sort of suffering experience. To think that some clown up in the sky is responsible for the suffering going on there is at the very least very very simplistic.
The causes being created as we watch, by those making and planting or dropping bombs creates with certainty in my mind, future experience of like sufferings in a constant cyclical that is had to free oneself from. Though they might mean well, those dishing up the thought to cause harm to others, will of course also reap what they sow to.
To think because someone is elected to a high office such as both Bush's were, or John Howard or any other promoter of the conflicts like Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan are anything other than deeply deluded mare mortals, is very likely a big mistake.
Following there sort of advice caused the outcome Vietnam Veterans suffered in direct consequence of believing in there rubbish. Given few years...oh we cant win, pack up and come home till some other clown dreams up another conflict, then get young kids who haven't had time to consider other views and feed them a load of crap and practice the latest gear out on some poor nation elsewhere.
Oh and how dear they hit back, can the justice system and engage crimes against humanity on a grand scale.
and my name is Robert Plumtree
Not even a buckles...
For thousand of years people have been killing each other in places like Afghanistan, why? Because the beings there have taking rebirth created by cause and affect for that sort of suffering experience. To think that some clown up in the sky is responsible for the suffering going on there is at the very least very very simplistic.
The causes being created as we watch, by those making and planting or dropping bombs creates with certainty in my mind, future experience of like sufferings in a constant cyclical that is had to free oneself from. Though they might mean well, those dishing up the thought to cause harm to others, will of course also reap what they sow to.
To think because someone is elected to a high office such as both Bush's were, or John Howard or any other promoter of the conflicts like Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan are anything other than deeply deluded mare mortals, is very likely a big mistake.
Following there sort of advice caused the outcome Vietnam Veterans suffered in direct consequence of believing in there rubbish. Given few years...oh we cant win, pack up and come home till some other clown dreams up another conflict, then get young kids who haven't had time to consider other views and feed them a load of crap and practice the latest gear out on some poor nation elsewhere.
Oh and how dear they hit back, can the justice system and engage crimes against humanity on a grand scale.
and my name is Robert Plumtree
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I think it is funny that people will judge a God who runs a whole creation and they can't program thier VCR!
He was kicked out.....because he didn't have a green card! ....so there! Happy now!
He was kicked out.....because he didn't have a green card! ....so there! Happy now!
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One must repent first to be forgiven. Adam had much to learn and their was by him something brought about that can't be put back.
Some things in life sorry doesn't make right....such as murder...to say your sorry does not restore life or remove the pain of seeing one's loved one dead....etc.
Adam brought death to all.......sorry did not restore paradise!
Some things in life sorry doesn't make right....such as murder...to say your sorry does not restore life or remove the pain of seeing one's loved one dead....etc.
Adam brought death to all.......sorry did not restore paradise!
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".. Thus did Adam disobey his Lord, so he went Astray. Then his Lord chose him, and turned to him with forgiveness, and gave him guidance." (Quran 20:121-122)