Iuchi_Zien: So it would have been less abhorrent if it hadn't been a Punjabi driver of the Taxi? and in way to minimize what happened to your brother it would have been less distressing if it had not been a Punjabi, I assume, doctor or nurse who had made the mistake with your brothers medication?
We get this a lot in the UK with Asylum seekers, Headlines reading "Asylum seeker kills two in car accident". It plays into religious/cultural/racial hatreds. How as a woman would you feel if you saw a headline "Woman driver kills two in car accident" would you perhaps be questioning why it was relevant that it was a woman?
I am getting at its a language barrier as they refuse to learn english. A chinese man killed a native woman who thought she was shop lifting and he got off with probabation. A policeman got stabbed by a black guy, cop shot him and the cop got kicked off the force. Do you see a pattern here? A native let two kids freeze to death on a reservation (child endangerment) and got 6 months probation. A white guy shot a deer and got 10 years. Isn't the law supposed to be the same for everyone? How about the rich getting away with murder while the poor get jail time? This bothers me. Shouldn't we all be equal?
robplum: Went to war without basic training, paraded and dressed in the dress of the Viet Cong and fell down pretend dead in most Northern town main streets before being posted 13 month mostly alone unarmed in Saigon, where are stitched me up with a dirt file after forging all my service records and extending my service contract without my knowledge is only bit of it
Man, you have been through hell. You have my upmost respect.
After a while you lose faith in society, nobody actually cares, i thought we were asked to go to war to stop Communism, turns out it was so others could build churches and steal as many buddhist children as they could get there grubby hands on. If i've learnt anything its not how it seems
robplum: After a while you lose faith in society, nobody actually cares, i thought we were asked to go to war to stop Communism, turns out it was so others could build churches and steal as many buddhist children as they could get there grubby hands on. If i've learnt anything its not how it seems
Yes, I am slowly losing faith in society because of this thread and now wishing I never got on it. I have been attacked several times because of my military career and because I am a woman. Guess somethings never change. I was in a great mood when I woke up now I just am depressed. I thought these forums would be good to meet people but instead I am finding out just how cruel they can be.
Locolynch: Is that jack talking, lol You cant handle the truth, bwahaaaa. What a superior sense of self-improtance is being projected here.
Well I can't say I have enjoyed talking with you but you have certainly given me something to think about. So, I will leave this thread on move on to more important things. I wish you well and no hard feelings.
navygirl1: I am getting at its a language barrier as they refuse to learn english. A chinese man killed a native woman who thought she was shop lifting and he got off with probabation. A policeman got stabbed by a black guy, cop shot him and the cop got kicked off the force. Do you see a pattern here? A native let two kids freeze to death on a reservation (child endangerment) and got 6 months probation. A white guy shot a deer and got 10 years. Isn't the law supposed to be the same for everyone? How about the rich getting away with murder while the poor get jail time? This bothers me. Shouldn't we all be equal?
I agree the law should apply equally to everybody (there is a reason Justice is portrayed with a blindfold on). Do you believe that his sentence was so low because he was Chinese? As to everybody should learn English if the country they intend to make their home has English as it's native language, I again agree, but how? How do you deal with the person who has such a low self-opinion he/she doesn't believe they can learn English? Do bear in mind English is probably one of the most difficult languages to learn. Who is going to pay for the English classes? who are going to teach them? It's a problem with migration that is happening all over the world and it isn't going to go away.
I grew up trusting others i now understand I was being stupid and it takes a lot to work out whats truth and whats not. The mirror...our own mindfulness...the knife cutting its self
Locolynch: this is way off the subject, but isn't it interesting how some people need others to agree with their opinions in order to validate ther own sanity
Ego, holding solid whats not solid...
Pursuing reality or truth within is sometimes a long hard haul
navygirl1: thanks for the insight. I guess I just have to learn not to take this personally. It is what it is.
Firstly your welcome. War scars the mind, the impermanence of life, unnecessary suffering that goes on around us, we notice now, when before our head was in the sand so to speak. Your welcome to say hi any time
robplum: I grew up trusting others i now understand I was being stupid and it takes a lot to work out whats truth and whats not. The mirror...our own mindfulness...the knife cutting its self
hmm, I can understand that. I was very trusting until I joined the military and saw how people truly are. It certainly was an eye opener and an education. I am very cautious these days and I would like to say wiser. You weren't stupid; I think you just wanted to see the good in others as I do, but its just not that clear cut. I really wanted to see the good in others but sadly all I see is the cruelty, greed, and anger they have. I don't want to give up in the good in others but its getting harder each day. I will try to stay optomistic though.
robplum: Firstly your welcome. War scars the mind, the impermanence of life, unnecessary suffering that goes on around us, we notice now, when before our head was in the sand so to speak. Your welcome to say hi any time
thanks you are a breath of fresh air and you have cheered me up.
Iuchi_Zien: Absolutely and to place somebody in the position where their lack of English would endanger life is despicable, but perhaps the anger should be aimed at the people/business/civil service who PUT that person in that position. Some of the problem is the media, I assume most of the examples you have given come from papers or TV? If the media think they can sell more advertising, increase their ratings by persecuting a group or showing in-equalities they will do it and whether its true or not is irrelevant. I mean in Sheffield there was an uproar a while ago about a man from Sheffield receiving a three year sentence for car theft while the same court gave an 'Asylum seeker' 20 hours community service. What wasn't mentioned was that the Sheffield man had led the Police on a two hour chase through the middle of Sheffield, rammed a Police car, injuring two officers before he was caught. That didn't fit with their story!
Point taken. The government does make some questionable choices. My biggest outrage was when an 80 year old women was put on the streets when she couldn't pay her $1800 a month rent raised from 800. The city should have put a cap on rents at least for seniors. Thank goodness someone found a place for her to stay.
navygirl1: Since its creation in 1873, the RCMP symbolized Canada to the world. For many people, the uniform including its Stetson hat was one tangible symbol of an elusive Canadian identity. I won't take offence to what you said as its what you want. You want me to be upset but I won't give you the satisfaction. Unlike you I have traveled extensively and seen things that would make you cry like a little baby. I don't expect a civilian to understand this and that is okay. Like I said when someone dies because of cultural beliefs (well if he is white it won't matter to you); you can know can be proud you let that happen.
"Unlike you I have traveled extensively and seen things that would make you cry like a little baby. I don't expect a civilian to understand this and that is okay."
oh dear, civilian??? Never traveled????? Too, too much. I've served in more than various wars and armies than there days in just over one week never mind the number of countries throughout Africa and South America...starting with the Biafran war in 1969...then into the Legion Etranger,then free-lance until the late 70's. While many are born with with shortcomings, one should not be in a rush to accumulate more of any deficiencies. That is just not 'normal' nor would it be to proclaim how 'ab normal' one may be... These are the times that try the primitive neanderthal soul that lurks within many, be it all the accumulated wrong and usually false education, governmental propaganda that one cannot understand and will not admit to, native hair styles, an exotic little understood religion or what have you that upsets that ol' red-necked dominance of enlightenment. I certainly have not meant to upset you on a personal basis, so please don't be offended. Think of mirrors in a 'house of mirrors' in a Circus or midway amusement park; you may not like or appreciate the images reflected back from you, but then again, who is to say if that isn't what you reveal...about any so called 'sacred' beliefs. This is the age when all truths are lies and all lies are true...and that is the truth... Think for yourself and you just may make it out alive in the coming times ahead...it is a live and let die world,; Life is togh; wear a helmet.
solitare: "Unlike you I have traveled extensively and seen things that would make you cry like a little baby. I don't expect a civilian to understand this and that is okay."
oh dear, civilian??? Never traveled????? Too, too much. I've served in more than various wars and armies than there days in just over one week never mind the number of countries throughout Africa and South America...starting with the Biafran war in 1969...then into the Legion Etranger,then free-lance until the late 70's. While many are born with with shortcomings, one should not be in a rush to accumulate more of any deficiencies. That is just not 'normal' nor would it be to proclaim how 'ab normal' one may be... These are the times that try the primitive neanderthal soul that lurks within many, be it all the accumulated wrong and usually false education, governmental propaganda that one cannot understand and will not admit to, native hair styles, an exotic little understood religion or what have you that upsets that ol' red-necked dominance of enlightenment. I certainly have not meant to upset you on a personal basis, so please don't be offended. Think of mirrors in a 'house of mirrors' in a Circus or midway amusement park; you may not like or appreciate the images reflected back from you, but then again, who is to say if that isn't what you reveal...about any so called 'sacred' beliefs. This is the age when all truths are lies and all lies are true...and that is the truth... Think for yourself and you just may make it out alive in the coming times ahead...it is a live and let die world,; Life is togh; wear a helmet.
Well I just got some good advice from someone on the site that you aren't what you seem and like to upset people so lets let sleeping dogs lie. Have a good evening.
navygirl1: Well I just got some good advice from someone on the site that you aren't what you seem and like to upset people so lets let sleeping dogs lie. Have a good evening.
That is the nice thing about this site: anyone , be they out to cause general mischief or spread malicious, inflammatory and unsubstantialy unverifiable rumours about anyone. Unfortunately, in my case it is all a matter of public record, both in print from various newspapers to television /news/docu. shows. It would be quite understandable for anyone to spread rumours about myself with my background from hiding; playing sniper. Many of us on CS have had to endure this over the years.. That said, anything else pertaining to that can be via private mail. I don't particularly care for dogs, btw; I prefer cats... Ciao, navygirl1
Thank you for the time you put into your posts Locolynch.
Some of those points make sense, and are worth investigating further. Well, it is worth investigating all of the points, but I believe many of them have already been investigated. But, I must say that I still see those all as conspiracy theories. Sure, they are good questions, but I don't think the majority of them can stand as factual, not in the way presented at least. I can agree with you that the final report presented by commission is not 100% accurate or true, but then again, its a government investigation, so somethings we may never know. But, I think the basics are true. I do believe it was a terrorist attack committed and planned by a terrorist network, not by the US government. Were all the hijackers on the plane who they said there are? Maybe not, it is not difficult to steal someone's identity these days, but I don't think any of them were government operatives or payed by the government to do the attacks. I don't think Flight 93 was shot down.
Also, I just don't see it possible for it to be an inside job. It would be impossible to have SO many people involved and willing to go along with the plan, and impossible to not have anyone talk about it. The only possibility would be the Administration became aware of the attacks and did not do all they could to prevent them.
Anyway, thank you for presenting the information to me, I appreciate the fact you took the time to send all that information. I know we don't and won't agree on this issue...at least not until more evidence if found to support or disprove the theories or report.
navygirl1: My whole point was as a soldier we fight for freedom so people like you can sit on your butt, sleep safe at night in you nice warm bed, full food of stomach and run down everything we as soldiers fought for.
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We get this a lot in the UK with Asylum seekers, Headlines reading "Asylum seeker kills two in car accident". It plays into religious/cultural/racial hatreds. How as a woman would you feel if you saw a headline "Woman driver kills two in car accident" would you perhaps be questioning why it was relevant that it was a woman?
I am getting at its a language barrier as they refuse to learn english. A chinese man killed a native woman who thought she was shop lifting and he got off with probabation. A policeman got stabbed by a black guy, cop shot him and the cop got kicked off the force. Do you see a pattern here? A native let two kids freeze to death on a reservation (child endangerment) and got 6 months probation. A white guy shot a deer and got 10 years. Isn't the law supposed to be the same for everyone? How about the rich getting away with murder while the poor get jail time? This bothers me. Shouldn't we all be equal?