2012---the truth according to Maya scholars---you may relax! (178)
StressFree: Have you heard of the rubberband theory?
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I have. Get ready for the ride of your life.
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Every astrologer in Hong Kong, Lhasa, and Saigon will tell you to avoid cutting wood—even symbolically—and thus, to avoid carpentry projects, splitting firewood, and so forth. Some may advise you to plant trees. This is not precisely correct. Earth is the missing element of this year, and wood exhausts earth. Things need to stay in relative balance, you know? There is also a significant risk of disturbance in the fire element this year.
One of the peculiar paradoxes of Tibetan astrology is that Iron Tiger years are known for incidents of accidental drowning. This is drowning in the bathtub, or drowning in a puddle type drowning, as distinct from the more common sort. Iron Tiger years are also known for war, particularly at the sixty year return, or the so-called complete cycle of time. The year 2010 is the sixty year return of the Iron Tiger year 1950, and you will recall this is when China invaded Tibet. You will also remember the Korean War. Other Iron Tiger years are 1590 (Battle of Ivry), 1650 (Third English Civil War), 1710 (Battle of Helsingborg), 1770 (Russo-Turkish War), 1830 (July Revolution, Belgian Revolution, Polish Revolution), and 1890 (Wounded Knee Massacre).
There is a particular danger of extreme turmoil arising from grudges, and there is a definite indicator of provocation from a spirit. This may degenerate into spiritual warfare of the most destructive sort. Therefore, if someone has done you an injury—even a great injury—do not respond, no matter the provocation. Those who seek to provoke are in fact demons, no matter what disguise they wear. This is a dark age.
Pay particular attention to dreams (and nightmares) this year. You might go so far as to keep a dream journal. Greatly disturbed dreams will indicate developments in the spirit world.
The “spiritual warfare” concept as applied to 2010 should not be taken lightly. There will be extreme activity involving gyalpos—some very, very powerful forces will come to life—and unprecedented agitation or activity among energetically wrathful spirits of all classes.
Make no mistake about this. This Tiger year can see ruthlessness on outer, inner, and secret levels. It will come suddenly, without warning.
One of the peculiar paradoxes of Tibetan astrology is that Iron Tiger years are known for incidents of accidental drowning. This is drowning in the bathtub, or drowning in a puddle type drowning, as distinct from the more common sort. Iron Tiger years are also known for war, particularly at the sixty year return, or the so-called complete cycle of time. The year 2010 is the sixty year return of the Iron Tiger year 1950, and you will recall this is when China invaded Tibet. You will also remember the Korean War. Other Iron Tiger years are 1590 (Battle of Ivry), 1650 (Third English Civil War), 1710 (Battle of Helsingborg), 1770 (Russo-Turkish War), 1830 (July Revolution, Belgian Revolution, Polish Revolution), and 1890 (Wounded Knee Massacre).
There is a particular danger of extreme turmoil arising from grudges, and there is a definite indicator of provocation from a spirit. This may degenerate into spiritual warfare of the most destructive sort. Therefore, if someone has done you an injury—even a great injury—do not respond, no matter the provocation. Those who seek to provoke are in fact demons, no matter what disguise they wear. This is a dark age.
Pay particular attention to dreams (and nightmares) this year. You might go so far as to keep a dream journal. Greatly disturbed dreams will indicate developments in the spirit world.
The “spiritual warfare” concept as applied to 2010 should not be taken lightly. There will be extreme activity involving gyalpos—some very, very powerful forces will come to life—and unprecedented agitation or activity among energetically wrathful spirits of all classes.
Make no mistake about this. This Tiger year can see ruthlessness on outer, inner, and secret levels. It will come suddenly, without warning.
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robplum: The year 2010 is the sixty year return of the Iron Tiger year 1950, and you will recall this is when China invaded Tibet. You will also remember the Korean War. Other Iron Tiger years are 1590 (Battle of Ivry), 1650 (Third English Civil War), 1710 (Battle of Helsingborg), 1770 (Russo-Turkish War), 1830 (July Revolution, Belgian Revolution, Polish Revolution), and 1890 (Wounded Knee Massacre).
There is a particular danger of extreme turmoil arising from grudges, and there is a definite indicator of provocation from a spirit. This may degenerate into spiritual warfare of the most destructive sort.
There is a particular danger of extreme turmoil arising from grudges, and there is a definite indicator of provocation from a spirit. This may degenerate into spiritual warfare of the most destructive sort.
Are you sure the iron tiger did not return in the recent decade that we have witnessed?
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I'm not sure about any of it, just digging deeper on that site, was written by very high lama for those that like reading that sort of thing...
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Well yes he seys it did (I don't know)
This table shows Tibetan and Gregorian calendar equivalents.
The Tibetan astronomical system and calendar making is based on the Sri Kalachakra Tantra (Wheel of Time Tantra), which was translated into Tibetan from Sanskrit in 1027 A.D. Therefore Tibetan calendar also began year 1027, which was a Fire-Rabbit Year. The Tibetan calendar operates with a 60-year cycle of five elements and twelve animals. This cycle is called Rab-byung and it runs from a Fire-Rabbit year to a Fire-Tiger year. At present, in the year 2005, we are in the 17th Rab-byung and undergoing its 19th year, Wood-Bird. Please remember that the Tibetan New Year is around February, while the Elemental New Year is two to three months earlier in December.
This table shows Tibetan and Gregorian calendar equivalents.
The Tibetan astronomical system and calendar making is based on the Sri Kalachakra Tantra (Wheel of Time Tantra), which was translated into Tibetan from Sanskrit in 1027 A.D. Therefore Tibetan calendar also began year 1027, which was a Fire-Rabbit Year. The Tibetan calendar operates with a 60-year cycle of five elements and twelve animals. This cycle is called Rab-byung and it runs from a Fire-Rabbit year to a Fire-Tiger year. At present, in the year 2005, we are in the 17th Rab-byung and undergoing its 19th year, Wood-Bird. Please remember that the Tibetan New Year is around February, while the Elemental New Year is two to three months earlier in December.
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Iron-Tiger
1590
1650
1710
1770
1830
1890
1950
2010
1590
1650
1710
1770
1830
1890
1950
2010
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EliteOne: this is almost as funny as funny as humans becoming whales and dolphins.
apparently, it was corn becoming dolphins. 
Are YOU on the cob?
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robplum: The last Iron Tiger year, 1950,
my birth year
what are we going to do with all this synchronicity?
In response to:
Its all looking good
Its all looking good
phew!...
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bohdiprana: apparently, it was corn becoming dolphins.
Are YOU on the cob?
Are YOU on the cob?
I always thought corn eventually became dogs?
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EliteOne: I always thought corn eventually became dogs?
Whole corn does become puppies, the creamed stuff becomes dolphins.
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bohdiprana: Whole corn does become puppies, the creamed stuff becomes dolphins.
I’m sure thats exactly the way it happened!
Seriously do you think if the end was actually factual we would know the truth?
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EliteOne: I’m sure thats exactly the way it happened!
Seriously do you think if the end was actually factual we would know the truth?
Seriously do you think if the end was actually factual we would know the truth?
You haven't seen the movie 'Next" or my posts about knowing one's future or even seeing one's future..... if you see your future, it changes your future, because you looked at it.
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bohdiprana: You haven't seen the movie 'Next" or my posts about knowing one's future or even seeing one's future..... if you see your future, it changes your future, because you looked at it.
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StressFree: Interesting and the info seems to be arranged from scattered sources and lumped into one presentation and a subjective view to suite yet another prophecy from what I see...but aren't most views subjective lol. I have never seen this blue star Kachina theory until recently. It was to my understanding that Kachina is a spirit and it's well documented and from what I have gathered is that there is a strong similarity of various elements of Hopi spirituality to that of the Aztecs (who in turn resemble Mayan myth aspects).
From what I've read in books concerning Native wisdom written mostly by Siouxs, the Hopi prophecy says the world as we know it will end if the White Brother does not heed the Sacred Way of the Red Brother and share his mission to develop technology in that spirit; yet, it also says, the destruction of Purification will be stalled as long as one Hopi still holds the right path with his simple digging stick.
From a Sioux's point of view, it states "the present environmental dilemma makes me believe that th planet could become uninhabitable if present values, lifestyles and even certain religious beliefs are not seriously introspected and altered. The idea that human is the unlimited inheritor of tis earth and that the planet must be subdued to satisfy his materialistic appetite is proving to be a totally false assumption."
In any case, the Sioux author says that too many non-Indians who elevate every utterance a Native American makes as if it is what all Native Americans will agree with. The author goes on to say that he does not know of any Sioux myths that focus on the end of time. As far as the end of the world is concerned, Black Elk's vision holds an environmental warning of ominous destruction by the Blue Man of greed and corruption, and that he believes that this time is upon us now---the book is from 2002.
I'd speculate that a new party will arise in the future (Green/Eco) and will reflect more of the people's desires and wishes to be governed fairly and in line with respecting and taking care of our ecology as well as using and promoting new eco technologies which may perhaps be more efficient and cheaper. And maybe we can finally get an overhaul in our educational institutions. I'd even venture to say that maybe there will be a true and balanced world organization like the UN in which there is no dominant country influencing policies unfairly and not deemed as a bureaucratic inefficiency and waste. Too many, cries of conspiracy are tied to this like the NWO and so forth...pathetic in my opinion.
From what I've read in books concerning Native wisdom written mostly by Siouxs, the Hopi prophecy says the world as we know it will end if the White Brother does not heed the Sacred Way of the Red Brother and share his mission to develop technology in that spirit; yet, it also says, the destruction of Purification will be stalled as long as one Hopi still holds the right path with his simple digging stick.
From a Sioux's point of view, it states "the present environmental dilemma makes me believe that th planet could become uninhabitable if present values, lifestyles and even certain religious beliefs are not seriously introspected and altered. The idea that human is the unlimited inheritor of tis earth and that the planet must be subdued to satisfy his materialistic appetite is proving to be a totally false assumption."
In any case, the Sioux author says that too many non-Indians who elevate every utterance a Native American makes as if it is what all Native Americans will agree with. The author goes on to say that he does not know of any Sioux myths that focus on the end of time. As far as the end of the world is concerned, Black Elk's vision holds an environmental warning of ominous destruction by the Blue Man of greed and corruption, and that he believes that this time is upon us now---the book is from 2002.
I'd speculate that a new party will arise in the future (Green/Eco) and will reflect more of the people's desires and wishes to be governed fairly and in line with respecting and taking care of our ecology as well as using and promoting new eco technologies which may perhaps be more efficient and cheaper. And maybe we can finally get an overhaul in our educational institutions. I'd even venture to say that maybe there will be a true and balanced world organization like the UN in which there is no dominant country influencing policies unfairly and not deemed as a bureaucratic inefficiency and waste. Too many, cries of conspiracy are tied to this like the NWO and so forth...pathetic in my opinion.
lnherent in your statement is the underlying thought that we need someone to guide/organise us?
l would be of the opinion that, like the economic systems based on comsumption of limited resources, the political systems feed also on the sleeping masses. Logically speaking, when the resources run out the system will implode. Personally l don't see how it would be possible to move smoothly from these "diseased" institutions to a healthy social structure. Many of the our deepest beliefs must be examined. Like you said about the educational systems, the current systems are a massive problem as the idigos are showing, but the deeper issue is not education, it is our attitude towards children, this is what needs to change, and with this changed, then the way we educate our children will change. Also with Government, the deeper issue is that there is an unconscious belief that if "Order" is not imposed then there will be Chaos. This belief allows for Governments to bully individuals, and to ignore the populous in pursuit of its own personal interests.
What you say about the Native American wisdom is also true, there are over 500 tribes, and tho some beliefs are shared, some are not. My lineage has connections with the Hopi and Dineh.
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EliteOne: I’ll have to see it! Is it new?
nah, few years old ... google !
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MGaff: lnherent in your statement is the underlying thought that we need someone to guide/organise us?
l would be of the opinion that, like the economic systems based on comsumption of limited resources, the political systems feed also on the sleeping masses. Logically speaking, when the resources run out the system will implode. Personally l don't see how it would be possible to move smoothly from these "diseased" institutions to a healthy social structure. Many of the our deepest beliefs must be examined. Like you said about the educational systems, the current systems are a massive problem as the idigos are showing, but the deeper issue is not education, it is our attitude towards children, this is what needs to change, and with this changed, then the way we educate our children will change. Also with Government, the deeper issue is that there is an unconscious belief that if "Order" is not imposed then there will be Chaos. This belief allows for Governments to bully individuals, and to ignore the populous in pursuit of its own personal interests.
What you say about the Native American wisdom is also true, there are over 500 tribes, and tho some beliefs are shared, some are not. My lineage has connections with the Hopi and Dineh.
l would be of the opinion that, like the economic systems based on comsumption of limited resources, the political systems feed also on the sleeping masses. Logically speaking, when the resources run out the system will implode. Personally l don't see how it would be possible to move smoothly from these "diseased" institutions to a healthy social structure. Many of the our deepest beliefs must be examined. Like you said about the educational systems, the current systems are a massive problem as the idigos are showing, but the deeper issue is not education, it is our attitude towards children, this is what needs to change, and with this changed, then the way we educate our children will change. Also with Government, the deeper issue is that there is an unconscious belief that if "Order" is not imposed then there will be Chaos. This belief allows for Governments to bully individuals, and to ignore the populous in pursuit of its own personal interests.
What you say about the Native American wisdom is also true, there are over 500 tribes, and tho some beliefs are shared, some are not. My lineage has connections with the Hopi and Dineh.
Hey MGaff. Great points and legitimate concerns. I totally agree with you that it is highly unlikely that there is a smooth transition from one dominate world governing structure to the next radically different governing structure. History has proved that.
You're right about order and chaos in regards to a self-governing system. The indigenous cultures around the world seemed to be doing just fine until their land and way of life was stripped by the Europeans and the Anglo-Americans.
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StressFree: Hey MGaff. Great points and legitimate concerns. I totally agree with you that it is highly unlikely that there is a smooth transition from one dominate world governing structure to the next radically different governing structure. History has proved that.
You're right about order and chaos in regards to a self-governing system. The indigenous cultures around the world seemed to be doing just fine until their land and way of life was stripped by the Europeans and the Anglo-Americans.
You're right about order and chaos in regards to a self-governing system. The indigenous cultures around the world seemed to be doing just fine until their land and way of life was stripped by the Europeans and the Anglo-Americans.
ln the way l've been taught, the White race is placed in the North of the the Medicine Wheel. The North is the place of Mind/Heart, and it is said that each race brings a particular gift to the planet. For the White Race it is Technology, but so far all our technology has been "Heartless". The Red Race is in the South of the Medicine Wheel and bring the gift of "Beauty". This North/South axis is seen as the Tonal axis. So to harmonise this North/South dichotomy, it must be recognised that any Technology that harms the environment is not in Beauty.
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Another Tsunami! What are they now 4, 5 months apart?
I don’t know about you people but today I started build an ark.
It worked once right!
I don’t know about you people but today I started build an ark.
It worked once right!
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You can still relax people and book plans for anything beyond 2012.
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I think there needs to be a really big push from something else, one of those 'last chance' kind of messeges.
We really do need to be one world, and that will be difficult in the present climate of conspiracy.
Have you heard of the rubberband theory?
In any case, where this a will, there is a way---I love that cliche
Well, my two cents here is that it's all evolution---we live--we learn. The Green sector technologies is what may very well replace the oil and fossil fuel industry, and I hope that these technologies will be governed by either Republicans and Democrats and Socialists and of course vampire Capitalist/Plutocrats . However, the odds of that seem pretty low if we are to consider the current balance of power of ideologies in our world. So the hypothetical explosion of the Green sector may very well save our current economy, but will it end up running on empty like all other failed economies? Lots of factors up in the air, but eventually consciousness and the power of the people always win. Things take time my friend, but once there is a radical shift, there is no going back.