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Mar 27, 2010 10:04 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
Christmas1: Sweetheart...My STORY is fictional..all tongue in cheek..because the Musicgirl.. said all Canadian stores are being invaded by Asian gangs. All countries have various ethic gangs..even the good ole USofA. Musichead doesn't know anything about Canada. I wish she would get her facts straight.


What I have said..is true..I read about them...

But I must call you on this...you have twisted what I have written..which is a typical liberal tactic..so lets set the record straight...

I didnt say the Asians were robbing ALL the stores in Canada....but some stores..

You are under a false delusion set up by your government and corrupt media to lull you into a falsehood that all well in disarmed canada..but its not true..same as in England...

A gov. that will take away your ability to protect yourselves..is not going to tell you the truth..if you think so..you are niave...YOur safety is not their concern..ONLY THE CROOKED LEADERS SAFETY IS IMPORTANT......they dont want you to come after them..when they get ready to do what they are planning...to the people of the world...you dont know about....'THE PLAN"...google it..see for yourself..

Read some history..every nation that was disarmed...many were murdered soon after wards...you think your safe...perhaps today you are...but tomorrow..you may have an evil despot for your prime minister..and he may be an advocate of the United Nations..Depopulation program...and then what are you going to do about that?

Good luck..in the NEw World Order...cause your gonna need it..your unarmed..defenseless...like infants..helpless.

You had better hope the Americans are armed..and will come help you..JUst like Canada does...they disarmed their nuclear weapons program...but they know..we will be there for them too...because we are humanitarians..and have always helped others..

My name is Musicianfriend ...or you can call me Music...your slur is only to be rude and condesending..that makes you look petty..and inmature...just thought Id help you out a bit..
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Mar 27, 2010 10:19 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
MORE FACTS!!! FACT'D!!!1111


Mr. Obama was asked about the D.C. case during the April 16 presidential debate with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton:

As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, and, you know, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
In his statement today, Mr. Obama said the Supreme Court has endorsed his view that “that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures.”

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Mar 27, 2010 10:27 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
Leo78
Leo78Leo78Sydney, New South Wales Australia4 Threads 4 Polls 732 Posts
Musicianfriend: Happy? Really? Perhaps you should watch this...looks like some very nice decent people are not so happy with the gun laws...I DID NOT see any hippies..dopers or loosers in that crowd...Who exactly SUPPORTS these gun laws? the hippies..dopers and loosers?

Check this out..SEE FOR YOURSELF..the people of England are NOT HAPPY WITH ANY GUN BANS..



Your population is happy about gun laws???? Only the ignorant lefties...not the people who know what that really means...it means your a freaking sitting duck to any criminal that comes your way..

the world is more educated than ever..and yet..the people seemed to have lost their wisdom? Why is this...they forgot their creator..and the teaching in the bible..you are only as smart as the man next to you in a university..or college.....the bible teaches mankind the wisdom from all the ages..


Yes, but i don't live in Englandconfused

No one has ever shot at me or even in the same vicinity as me so your paranoid extreme right wing argument is void. Once again, gun crime in Australia is very low and access to guns from all sectors is limited.

You were the one who voted for legal access to RPG's and grenades in my poll didn't you!laugh
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Mar 27, 2010 10:32 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Musicianfriend:

America is still a Christian nation...I believe that the wisdom we have learned from the Bible keeps us from believing these people who try to sell us on FAKE SAFETY through gun laws...This is why dishonest governments try to get rid of Christianity..We never believe them..we understand whats going on..with the global gov..its a spiritual world.

If you believe in nothing..you will fall for everything..

Wisdom..


You must be humbled after the CHECKMATE I just laid on you tootsie! Obama can care less about guns because he hasn't suggested anything that he going to do anything about gun control and ownership. Besides, let's say he did, it would never pass in Congress! Think woman!

Also, Christianity is on the decline in America and around the world. Atheism/Agnosticism is on the rise in sharp numbers in America. Wake up and smell the coffee. The old world is shrinking and the new world is coming. Change won't be stopped.

Also, learn the First Amendment. It says something about separation of church and state---a political and legal doctrine that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate and independent from each other.


Do you need more facts to see that Obama can care less about gun control?
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Mar 27, 2010 10:37 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RevWhiteWolf: http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/eric-holder-says-hey-lets-ban-guns-and-pelosi-says-are-you-nuts/


Again, that skewed link does not mention or cite Obama indicating that he is going to alter the Second Amendment. All he said was "reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons". You are aware with the "Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act", right? If not, think back when President Reagan was shot. He was referring to that, a law already in place that the Republicans initiated....and something they did right for once.

Anything else? You'll won't win here.
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Mar 27, 2010 10:38 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
Leo78: Yes, but i don't live in England

No one has ever shot at me or even in the same vicinity as me so your paranoid extreme right wing argument is void. Once again, gun crime in Australia is very low and access to guns from all sectors is limited.

You were the one who voted for legal access to RPG's and grenades in my poll didn't you!
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Your full of crap...Australian implemented gun control..and crime rose to a huge level..GUN CONTROL IN AUSTRALIA WAS A DISMAL FAILURE..they even admitted that it was a grave mistake..

Dont you do any research before you post?

The poll?.

Yes...grenades..tanks..etc..what ever the gov. has ..we should have it too...

The gov. is turning against the people..or havent you noticed..

thats what the 2nd amendment was written for..just in case a gov. became tyrannical...

what better way to hold a tyrant back..than to be an armed REpublic...

Just the facts..

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
- Thomas Jefferson [What would Jefferson say today?]
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
*****************************
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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"In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson


Thats why they hate our Constitution..they cant acheive their evil little plans...Bush called it "Just a little piece of Paper.." Bush..Obama..Clinton..all the same...a tag team..all corrupt.

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Mar 27, 2010 10:42 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RevWhiteWolf: http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/eric-holder-says-hey-lets-ban-guns-and-pelosi-says-are-you-nuts/


In black and white for you...


NRA Claim: "Expand the Clinton Semi-Auto Weapons Ban to Include Millions More Firearms"

Partly true: The NRA refers here to the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was put in place during former President Bill Clinton's administration. Title XI of the legislation spoke directly to regulations on assault weapons. The law outlawed the semi-automatic versions of 19 kinds of military-style assault weapons, but it expired in 2004. The "assault weapon ban" was always a misnomer, however. Fully automatic weapons – like the military assault rifle carried on battlefields – had always been illegal to own without a very hard-to-obtain federal license, under legislation going back to the days of Al Capone. They remain so today.

Nevertheless, Obama called the ban a "common sense gun law" and favors bringing it back on a permanent basis. Obama's "Urban Policy" fact sheet says he "supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets."

As recently as Aug. 28, when accepting his party's nomination at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, "The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals."

Obama's policy statement doesn't mention any expansion of the expired ban, however. We're not sure where the NRA gets its claim that "millions" of additional weapons would be covered.


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Mar 27, 2010 10:47 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
RevWhiteWolf
RevWhiteWolfRevWhiteWolfDallas, Texas USA268 Posts
StressFree: Again, that skewed link does not mention or cite Obama indicating that he is going to alter the Second Amendment. All he said was "reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons". You are aware with the "Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act", right? If not, think back when President Reagan was shot. He was referring to that, a law already in place that the Republicans initiated....and something they did right for once.

Anything else? You'll won't win here.


Anything else? It's obvious you don't want to hear anything other than the sound of your own voice and am convinced in your own self-righteousness, so I'm not going to lower myself to your level. So I'll leave you with this piece of advice- Right now you're coming across as a think- you-know-it-all jerk. It's not becoming and it's a real turn off to women.I'll be brutally honest with you. If this is how you treat others on the internet for pete's sake, it's pretty certain you treat others shabbily in your life as well. Little wonder why so many are single, alone and miserable. Nobody wants to hang out with a person who insists upon behaving like a jerk. Period. You're free to believe as you wish, but please don't inflict it upon others and not expect them to respect your views. It works both ways, contrary to popular belief. Try to respect the fact that others will always have differing opinions and try to to practice the "live and let live" philosophy. If you can't, perhaps you need to sit and examine why you feel as such.

May you have a Good Evening. handshake
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Mar 27, 2010 10:49 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
Leo78
Leo78Leo78Sydney, New South Wales Australia4 Threads 4 Polls 732 Posts
Musicianfriend: ]

Your full of crap...Australian implemented gun control..and crime rose to a huge level..GUN CONTROL IN AUSTRALIA WAS A DISMAL FAILURE..they even admitted that it was a grave mistake..

Dont you do any research before you post?

The poll?.

Yes...grenades..tanks..etc..what ever the gov. has ..we should have it too...

The gov. is turning against the people..or havent you noticed..

thats what the 2nd amendment was written for..just in case a gov. became tyrannical...

what better way to hold a tyrant back..than to be an armed REpublic...

Just the facts..

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams
*****************************
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
- Thomas Jefferson [What would Jefferson say today?]
*****************************
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
*****************************
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
****************************
"In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson

Thats why they hate our Constitution..they cant acheive their evil little plans...Bush called it "Just a little piece of Paper.." Bush..Obama..Clinton..all the same...a tag team..all corrupt.

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You know about Australia because you live here? laugh

Our crime rate is not out of control nor has it ever been.

2 other things.

You quote NRA propaganda but their view is skewed. They have a vested interest in guns and ammo so any political info they give is tainted.

You refer to liberals as commies? Do you know anything about politics?
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Mar 27, 2010 10:50 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
StressFree: You must be humbled after the CHECKMATE I just laid on you tootsie! Obama can care less about guns because he hasn't suggested anything that he going to do anything about gun control and ownership. Besides, let's say he did, it would never pass in Congress! Think woman!

Also, Christianity is on the decline in America and around the world. Atheism/Agnosticism is on the rise in sharp numbers in America. Wake up and smell the coffee. The old world is shrinking and the new world is coming. Change won't be stopped.

Also, learn the First Amendment. It says something about separation of church and state---a political and legal doctrine that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate and independent from each other. Do you need more facts to see that Obama can care less about gun control?


This Utopia will end...2012..will come..and it will be just another day...lol....God has been here since the beginning of time....Christians have been murdered by the millions..and yet...we are still here...and more coming every day..especially since the world has became so chaotic..People want to understand whats going on..

Its a spiritual conflict..the world is a spiritual place..just because some mere man says there is no God..You acutally belive him???rolling on the floor laughing Hes just a freaking man..like you or I..no different .no better...just a mere man...

Do these self appointed godlets have a book predicting the future..and then it happens? Do these self appointed godlets posess any wisdom? If they did..they would never want a global gov..its going to be disastrous..and yes..they will have their global gov..but it will be awful...Nice gift to give your children...doh

If you would do some of your own research please..you will find that Christianity is the very largest religion in all of the world..Muslims are 2nd...Atheism is not a big religion....under 5% of the worlds population

The atheists try to make themselves look bigger than they truly are...It is they..that are the Global Government..these atheists. So they have to make you think..they are massive..when in fact..they are not at all...just little men..with great big huge egos..
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Mar 27, 2010 10:55 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RevWhiteWolf: Anything else? It's obvious you don't want to hear anything other than the sound of your own voice and am convinced in your own self-righteousness, so I'm not going to lower myself to your level. So I'll leave you with this piece of advice- Right now you're coming across as a think- you-know-it-all jerk. It's not becoming and it's a real turn off to women.I'll be brutally honest with you. If this is how you treat others on the internet for pete's sake, it's pretty certain you treat others shabbily in your life as well. Little wonder why so many are single, alone and miserable. Nobody wants to hang out with a person who insists upon behaving like a jerk. Period. You're free to believe as you wish, but please don't inflict it upon others and not expect them to respect your views. It works both ways, contrary to popular belief. Try to respect the fact that others will always have differing opinions and try to to practice the "live and let live" philosophy. If you can't, perhaps you need to sit and examine why you feel as such.

May you have a Good Evening.


I know more on this issue than you do. Deal with it.

I've had it with people posting lies that were fed to them by smear campaigns. Amazing how your demographic sucks it up. I won't respect differing opinions that are wrong, false, and manipulative.

My views are based on facts, regarding this issue. I just blew you and the other older lady out of the water. You're two are so hell bent on how our country is becoming fascist or whatever. And perhaps just mad because a black man is in office. OMG! Obama is a terrorist!!!!
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Mar 27, 2010 10:56 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
desmond
desmonddesmondkissimmee, Florida USA375 Threads 10,888 Posts
Musicianfriend: This Utopia will end...2012..will come..and it will be just another day...lol....God has been here since the beginning of time....Christians have been murdered by the millions..and yet...we are still here...and more coming every day..especially since the world has became so chaotic..People want to understand whats going on..

Its a spiritual conflict..the world is a spiritual place..just because some mere man says there is no God..You acutally belive him??? Hes just a freaking man..like you or I..no different .no better...just a mere man...

Do these self appointed godlets have a book predicting the future..and then it happens? Do these self appointed godlets posess any wisdom? If they did..they would never want a global gov..its going to be disastrous..and yes..they will have their global gov..but it will be awful...Nice gift to give your children...

If you would do some of your own research please..you will find that Christianity is the very largest religion in all of the world..Muslims are 2nd...Atheism is not a big religion....under 5% of the worlds population

The atheists try to make themselves look bigger than they truly are...It is they..that are the Global Government..these atheists. So they have to make you think..they are massive..when in fact..they are not at all...just little men..with great big huge egos..




I am a Christian but I never be like you with your hate and I never want to be like you.YOU GIVE ALL REAL CHRISTIANS a bad name..................and as I have said before google can make idiots think they are smart. frustrated very mad
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Mar 27, 2010 11:01 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Musicianfriend: This Utopia will end...2012..will come..and it will be just another day...lol....God has been here since the beginning of time....Christians have been murdered by the millions..and yet...we are still here...and more coming every day..especially since the world has became so chaotic..People want to understand whats going on..

Its a spiritual conflict..the world is a spiritual place..just because some mere man says there is no God..You acutally belive him??? Hes just a freaking man..like you or I..no different .no better...just a mere man...

Do these self appointed godlets have a book predicting the future..and then it happens? Do these self appointed godlets posess any wisdom? If they did..they would never want a global gov..its going to be disastrous..and yes..they will have their global gov..but it will be awful...Nice gift to give your children...

If you would do some of your own research please..you will find that Christianity is the very largest religion in all of the world..Muslims are 2nd...Atheism is not a big religion....under 5% of the worlds population

The atheists try to make themselves look bigger than they truly are...It is they..that are the Global Government..these atheists. So they have to make you think..they are massive..when in fact..they are not at all...just little men..with great big huge egos..


I've studied religion/theosophy/philosophy and I am very aware of the 5 main religions in the world, as well as the atrocities that have resulted because of Judaism/Islam/Christianity. Seems you're not on a first name basis with history and why the Puritans came to America in the first place.

I'm agnostic btw, not Atheist. I'm also a very spiritual person who believes in peace and change. You do realize the world is on a tilt right? Change is needed.

And a global world will be the best solution in the future. Single currency, single banking practices and laws---a new world order, yes. To you it means something else, to me, it means a planet of harmony, peace, and understanding...love. Something Jesus would want. Right?
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Mar 27, 2010 11:03 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
RevWhiteWolf
RevWhiteWolfRevWhiteWolfDallas, Texas USA268 Posts
Right, sure you do. roll eyes

Continue throwing your temper tantrum. Reaaalllll becoming.
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Mar 27, 2010 11:05 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
desmond: I am a Christian


Hey Desmond. Well said on the last page. I do believe in a lot of Christian principles and in the wisdom of Jesus and all his preachings and messages. I am not a Christian, but this does not mean I don't disrespect Christians or any other religious person. I just disrespect idiots spreading hate and lies around.

Just so that is cleared up since I claim to be non-religious and agnostic. Love, peace, and harmony is my religionhead banger
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Mar 27, 2010 11:08 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RevWhiteWolf: Right, sure you do.

Continue throwing your temper tantrum. Reaaalllll becoming.


I'm a defender of the truthprofessor peace And I will fight every single one of you who is trying to spread hate, fear, and outright lies. And yes, I know more than you. Deal with itwink

THE NEW WAVE WILL NOT BE STOPPED!!!peace yay
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Mar 27, 2010 11:10 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
desmond
desmonddesmondkissimmee, Florida USA375 Threads 10,888 Posts
StressFree: Hey Desmond. Well said on the last page. I do believe in a lot of Christian principles and in the wisdom of Jesus and all his preachings and messages. I am not a Christian, but this does not mean I don't disrespect Christians or any other religious person. I just disrespect idiots spreading hate and lies around.

Just so that is cleared up since I claim to be non-religious and agnostic. Love, peace, and harmony is my religion





Stress I agree with you handshake I can't see why it so hard to respect each other and agree to disagree but be respectful........with the OP if you do not agree with her in any of her threads then she attacks you and that is sad.why is it so hard to live love and learn from each other.
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Mar 27, 2010 11:12 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
RevWhiteWolf
RevWhiteWolfRevWhiteWolfDallas, Texas USA268 Posts
StressFree: I'm a defender of the truth And I will fight every single one of you who is trying to spread hate, fear, and outright lies. And yes, I know more than you. Deal with it

THE NEW WAVE WILL NOT BE STOPPED!!!


rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 27, 2010 11:15 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
StressFree: I'm a defender of the truth And I will fight every single one of you who is trying to spread hate, fear, and outright lies. And yes, I know more than you. Deal with it

THE NEW WAVE WILL NOT BE STOPPED!!!


bowing bowing all hail sunami tonybowing bowing

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing cheers
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Mar 27, 2010 11:17 PM CST IS GUN CONTROL COMING TO AMERICA....GIFT FROM HILLARY CLINTON
RevWhiteWolf
RevWhiteWolfRevWhiteWolfDallas, Texas USA268 Posts
desmond: Stress I agree with you I can't see why it so hard to respect each other and agree to disagree but be respectful........with the OP if you do not agree with her in any of her threads then she attacks you and that is sad.why is it so hard to live love and learn from each other.



Desmond, I agree as well. handshake Respect used to be a two way street but it seems anymore that one side tries to dominate the other and this goes for both sides. We aren't designed to all be alike or to think or believe alike, but we should be able to put differences aside and work for the common good. I don't know what happened and wish that I had an answer. sigh
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