elssonOPLondon, Greater London, England UK1,864 posts
jlw45: i was'nt speaking of censorship or anything else, other than GIVE ME FACTS...not hear say or "theory"..."facts" is what i want to hear...and i have'nt read any argument from you, other than arguing...
jlw45: i was'nt speaking of censorship or anything else, other than GIVE ME FACTS...not hear say or "theory"..."facts" is what i want to hear...and i have'nt read any argument from you, other than arguing...
And how do you think theories evolve? by argument and questioning You say you want facts, well with a 'supposed' 99.99% of the fossil record missing there can be no FACTS, sorry, there is one fact, we don't know enough to know what is fact! so no facts to give you only theories, suppositions and arguments. If you want facts go look in an encyclopedia!
ok, ok...from a mathmatical point of view, there would be more of a chance for a 747 to crash into a junk yard, and a 1999 toyota pickup be fasioned from the onslaught, than the probability for evolution to have taken place....which evolved first ?...male or female ??...there are alot geological evidences that point to a global flood {that can prove the bible is correct...}...it is commonly said that the strata within the earths underlayment represents millions of years per strata....when, in fact all over the world, petrafied trees are found going THROUGH the strata...and alot of them upside down...it is said that the grand canyon took millions of years to be carved out by the colorado river...when, in fact, the colorado river, where it starts at the grand canyon, would have to've traveled UP HILL...being that the elevation is lower where it starts and higher where it exits the grand canyon....
there have been alot of deceptions put on the public with evolution theorists...while FACTS have been swept under the carpet and hidden...why do you think that is ??
elsson: Not heard a fact from the Christians either
Iuchi_Zien: And how do you think theories evolve? by argument and questioning You say you want facts, well with a 'supposed' 99.99% of the fossil record missing there can be no FACTS, sorry, there is one fact, we don't know enough to know what is fact! so no facts to give you only theories, suppositions and arguments. If you want facts go look in an encyclopedia!
maybe you DON'T need any of the black pints...
99.99% is more "theory"....AND most encyclopedias push "theory" as well...sorry but, you'll have to do big boy studying...WITHOUT an encyclopedia...
jlw45: ok, ok...from a mathmatical point of view, there would be more of a chance for a 747 to crash into a junk yard, and a 1999 toyota pickup be fasioned from the onslaught, than the probability for evolution to have taken place....which evolved first ?...male or female ??...there are alot geological evidences that point to a global flood {that can prove the bible is correct...}...it is commonly said that the strata within the earths underlayment represents millions of years per strata....when, in fact all over the world, petrafied trees are found going THROUGH the strata...and alot of them upside down...it is said that the grand canyon took millions of years to be carved out by the colorado river...when, in fact, the colorado river, where it starts at the grand canyon, would have to've traveled UP HILL...being that the elevation is lower where it starts and higher where it exits the grand canyon....
there have been alot of deceptions put on the public with evolution theorists...while FACTS have been swept under the carpet and hidden...why do you think that is ??
Oh you are so right, its much more logical to believe a invisible sky buddy spoke everything into existence. And by the way, maybe you should study a little about tectonic shift!
jlw45: maybe you DON'T need any of the black pints... 99.99% is more "theory"....AND most encyclopedias push "theory" as well...sorry but, you'll have to do big boy studying...WITHOUT an encyclopedia...
Hence the quotation marks around the supposed, where are your facts? because this is not an argument or a theory which is going to be solved by facts (and I'm sure you're well aware of that!) To allow yourself to only believe what can be proven by fact, which is what I'm inferring from your comments is going to leave you in a VERY big hole, after all can you prove beyond ALL doubt, to me, you actually exist?
jlw45: do some research, yourself, and learn some definitions {as in science, and theory} and maybe i'll discuss it further with ya....
no point in wasting my time with you any further. No point till you learn what it takes for something to become scientific theory and that if there is 1 in a trillion chances for any aspect of evolution to be wrong it must remain as theory.that's why gravity is still a theory.
bamabulldog08: Oh you are so right, its much more logical to believe a invisible sky buddy spoke everything into existence. And by the way, maybe you should study a little about tectonic shift!
why the hostility ??...do you even know why you have hostillity towards this subject ??...i wonder
what about the tectonic shift should i study, oh brainful one ??
which, by the way, the bible speaks of those shifts, as well....
bamabulldog08: no point in wasting my time with you any further. No point till you learn what it takes for something to become scientific theory and that if there is 1 in a trillion chances for any aspect of evolution to be wrong it must remain as theory.that's why gravity is still a theory.
done with ya
most true scientist are looking for FACT...NOT theory...only the robotic minds follow theory...press on, bamaboy...maybe you'll find your answers someday...done with you too
jlw45: ok, ok...from a mathmatical point of view, there would be more of a chance for a 747 to crash into a junk yard, and a 1999 toyota pickup be fasioned from the onslaught, than the probability for evolution to have taken place....which evolved first ?...male or female ??...there are alot geological evidences that point to a global flood {that can prove the bible is correct...}...it is commonly said that the strata within the earths underlayment represents millions of years per strata....when, in fact all over the world, petrafied trees are found going THROUGH the strata...and alot of them upside down...it is said that the grand canyon took millions of years to be carved out by the colorado river...when, in fact, the colorado river, where it starts at the grand canyon, would have to've traveled UP HILL...being that the elevation is lower where it starts and higher where it exits the grand canyon....
there have been alot of deceptions put on the public with evolution theorists...while FACTS have been swept under the carpet and hidden...why do you think that is ??
The chicken and the egg is a fallacy, the changes were far too subtle to simply say a species 'came' into existence, and in answer to your next question it was the egg because the egg mutated to be different from its parents. Out of curiousity what are the odds of somebody winning the European lottery? something like 76 million to one yet most weeks somebody wins? You say there is evidence of a global flood where is your evidence? As to your quote about the bible, there is evidence that some of the Iliad is true does that mean we should go out and worship the Greek gods? Of course not. You mention 'facts' being swept under the carpet, what facts? I suspect more supposition and theories then facts! If you have the facts show us!
jlw45: actually, there are more societys than the gilgamesh, that tell of a global flood...there are tells of a global flood from all corners of the world...from china to the americas...and they tell of eight people surviving the flood, as well....which could be explained from the peoples being scattered from bable...there are alot "scientific" evidences in the bible, if one looks without blinders,DARWIN...
Well, the lack of pirates is the direct cause of global warming too. (Coorelation does not equal causation).
jlw45: actually, there are more societys than the gilgamesh, that tell of a global flood...there are tells of a global flood from all corners of the world...from china to the americas...and they tell of eight people surviving the flood, as well....which could be explained from the peoples being scattered from bable...there are alot "scientific" evidences in the bible, if one looks without blinders,DARWIN...
So explain to me why 'facts' in the bible prove that ALL the bible is true, yet 'facts' in the Gilgamesh, Iliad and the number of other sources, you don't quote, don't prove that ALL of contents of them are true? Is it because you have 'faith' in the bible and none of the others? You ask other people to look without blinders, try taking your own blinders off first!
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FOLKS EVOLUTION IS FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes!!!...that's why they call it the "THEORY" of evolution...