The missing link (268)
emannigol: Um... Nope! Evolution is happening in population level. Species are usually consisting more than one population.
Yes, that is true. Speciation happens in specific polulations.
but what I said is still correct.
A change in the makeup of a species IS speciation.
While it happens on a population level it is STILL change in the species. Thus...speciation.
This population of the species has changed and speciated, that is it has become different from the other populations that used to share its traits.
I didn't say species wide, I said a change in a species...meaning speciation.
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jlw45: most true scientist are looking for FACT...NOT theory...only the robotic minds follow theory...press on, bamaboy...maybe you'll find your answers someday...done with you too
You so funny, so so funny, and you still have no idea of what scientific theory is nor how its reached. later chump
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bamabulldog08: You so funny, so so funny, and you still have no idea of what scientific theory is nor how its reached. later chump
you still broodin' over that ??...no wonder you're single...
later, chunk...
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lol, you still so funny 
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emannigol:
Oops! Should have been "development"...
Oops! Should have been "development"...
Oh yes "development" a must
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i was asking for FACTS, the last time i visited this thread....here are some facts to ponder
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
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jlw45: i was asking for FACTS, the last time i visited this thread....here are some facts to ponder
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
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jlw45: i was asking for FACTS, the last time i visited this thread....here are some facts to ponder
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
I've personally studied the U-Pb dating of meteorites and moon-rocks dude. Never actually dated anything Terran, but I do believe the Solar System itself is pretty good evidence of the age of the planet. It's the neighborhood after all.
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I've personally studied the U-Pb dating of meteorites and moon-rocks dude. Never actually dated anything Terran, but I do believe the Solar System itself is pretty good evidence of the age of the planet. It's the neighborhood after all. wine
It's the neighborhood after all. wine
Hey neighbour
It's the neighborhood after all. wine
Hey neighbour
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Galactic_bodhi: I've personally studied the U-Pb dating of meteorites and moon-rocks dude. Never actually dated anything Terran, but I do believe the Solar System itself is pretty good evidence of the age of the planet. It's the neighborhood after all.
Potassium-argon dating ???.... how accurate is it when it dated the lava from a Hawaiian volcano eruption in 1801 at 1.6 million years old ???....
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jlw45: Potassium-argon dating ???.... how accurate is it when it dated the lava from a Hawaiian volcano eruption in 1801 at 1.6 million years old ???....
Well, the zircon in the meteorite we studied was pretty old. 3 billion years old at the center slice...
Can't fight the math. I'm convinced.
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jlw45: Potassium-argon dating ???.... how accurate is it when it dated the lava from a Hawaiian volcano eruption in 1801 at 1.6 million years old ???....
hmmmm acurate, now we must find the right measure, and how accurate is that?
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Wheres the kiwi commentator?, but that's cool. thought you might like this footage.
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jlw45: Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago.
The rate of population growth has NOT been steady because of plagues, famines and wars.
From those same records you can see that there were many strong civilications living about 4400 years ago; in Northern Africa, Near and Mid Asia for example. Were pyramids built before or after the Flood?
jlw45: The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
Any math supporting this? I mean that scale of planetary heat loss.
jlw45: The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
Who says that the rings are as old as the planet itself?
jlw45: The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years.
Um, what's the source of that estimate?
jlw45: Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
The moon is receding at about 1.5 inches per year.
jlw45: Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
They are only evaporating in orbits near the sun.
jlw45: Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Intensity of magnetic field is varying, not decaying at steady rate. Even it's polarity has changed many times.
jlw45: Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Per day? Scientist's estimates are only fraction of that. Closer to thousandth of a second per YEAR.
jlw45: Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
That could be correct if we assume that geological events aren't making any other changes in oil reservoirs. However, if the rocks would be so pourous there wouldn't be need to drill the oil with hard work at first place.
jlw45: The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
What?
I suppose same reason there aren't older people alive.
jlw45: Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
jlw45: Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
Since you know things so well, could you tell us the mineral composition of those Lincoln Memorial stalactites?
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jlw45: Potassium-argon dating ???.... how accurate is it when it dated the lava from a Hawaiian volcano eruption in 1801 at 1.6 million years old ???....
That lava is just having inclusions of material which hadn't melted at that time.
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jlw45: you still broodin' over that ??...no wonder you're single...
later, chunk...
later, chunk...
Another theist/ creationist chops his foot off. I just love watching you creationist hit a dead end.
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jlw45: i was asking for FACTS, the last time i visited this thread....here are some facts to ponder
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronaughts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 per cent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
I knew I had seen these statements on a website. Simple to cut and paste isn' it
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jlw45: The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
I think you'll find there are varieties of ferns and cycads that are much older.
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Um... Nope! Evolution is happening in population level. Species are usually consisting more than one population.