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Apr 12, 2010 7:35 AM CST death
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
Hello everyone! I saw a terrible scene today morning where my dog had killed a very beautiful cat in my compound. I fail to understand why the cat did not run, or at least hide under my car. My compound is fenced up and I feel so miserable to see a dead animal in my compound. I couldn't trace the cat owner. I buried the poor animal and while at work I was just thinking or rather picturing how much the cat had suffered before it died. Now I have punished my dog without dinner. Am I harsh to my dog?
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Apr 12, 2010 8:45 AM CST death
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
mercy: Hello everyone! I saw a terrible scene today morning where my dog had killed a very beautiful cat in my compound. I fail to understand why the cat did not run, or at least hide under my car. My compound is fenced up and I feel so miserable to see a dead animal in my compound. I couldn't trace the cat owner. I buried the poor animal and while at work I was just thinking or rather picturing how much the cat had suffered before it died. Now I have punished my dog without dinner. Am I harsh to my dog?


blues


...but you can't deprive your dog of dinner dunno - what is the purpose of it? how the dog will connect these two events?


hug
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Apr 12, 2010 8:52 AM CST death
The are not just pets they are animals. If the dog is hungry it will find another cat.
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Apr 12, 2010 8:54 AM CST death
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
mercy: Am I harsh to my dog?


Yes, sorry to say that you are. You are punishing an animal ofr being what he is, an animal and a dog.

Dogs hate cats and will chase and if caught will harm one. Same as a cat and a mouse or a bird. Natural instincts.

Feed the dog. thumbs up
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Apr 12, 2010 9:00 AM CST death
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Pointless punishing the dog. He has no idea he has done anything wrong and will have no idea he is being punished.(They don't think like you and me!)laugh He probably thinks he is defending his territory and that would include defending you.
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Apr 12, 2010 9:06 AM CST death
Yeah, the dog has no idea of why it's din din is being withheld. It's sad you saw the dog eat the cat, but that IS what dogs do.

If your worried about it happening again, make sure your dog is on a leash while in your compound, or pay attention to whether or not there are stray cats around when you let your dog out.

A leopard can't change his spots any more than a dog can understand that it's first instinct to go after a cat is wrong. Good luck!!
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Apr 12, 2010 9:09 AM CST death
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Any dog owner who's dog kills someone's cat should take full responsibility for that killing . Making the excuse that dogs kill cats because they're animals is a cop-out !
It's the dog owner's responsibility to train their dog not to chase cats !! very mad
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Apr 12, 2010 9:17 AM CST death
sweetowen
sweetowensweetowenSomewhere, Pennsylvania USA289 Threads 5 Polls 8,850 Posts
But if the dog 'didn't know' it did wrong (& yes, I agree... that's it's instinct), how are we to train/teach the dog not to do it again? There are ways to train our pets, just as we train our children as they're growing up. Perhaps withholding dinner isn't the correct answer, but it CAN be taught/trained not to do so in the future.
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Apr 12, 2010 9:23 AM CST death
jvaski: Any dog owner who's dog kills someone's cat should take full responsibility for that killing . Making the excuse that dogs kill cats because they're animals is a cop-out !
It's the dog owner's responsibility to train their dog not to chase cats !!

You are right! I had a cat climb over a 6 foot fence to play with my pit bull. The cat started scratching and biting and with one jerk from the dog the cat was gone.
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Apr 12, 2010 9:28 AM CST death
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
jvaski: Any dog owner who's dog kills someone's cat should take full responsibility for that killing . Making the excuse that dogs kill cats because they're animals is a cop-out !
It's the dog owner's responsibility to train their dog not to chase cats !!


She DID take full responsibilty though.
She tried to find the cat's owner and even buried the poor thing.

The question posed was she being harsh to the dog.
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Apr 12, 2010 9:33 AM CST death
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
mercy: Hello everyone! I saw a terrible scene today morning where my dog had killed a very beautiful cat in my compound. I fail to understand why the cat did not run, or at least hide under my car. My compound is fenced up and I feel so miserable to see a dead animal in my compound. I couldn't trace the cat owner. I buried the poor animal and while at work I was just thinking or rather picturing how much the cat had suffered before it died. Now I have punished my dog without dinner. Am I harsh to my dog?
Thats what dogs and cats do.But to ask if your too harsh on your dog is really funny, he won't know why he wasnt feed.He should have been tide up and hit with control and told no bad dog, or at least put a lion in your yard to set him straight.cheers
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Apr 12, 2010 6:12 PM CST death
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
My dear friends thank you very much for your responses. Some of your responses are helping me recover from this incident. In a way I am very responsible for what had happened
1. I did not train my dog not to chase cats. Honestly, I do not know how to train a dog not to follow its instincts.
2. I was indeed harsh by not giving him his dinner.


Yesterday I yelled at him (in the presence of my neighbour) for killing the cat. I also told him that he will not have food because he killed the cat. I gave him two slaps telling him not to kill a cat. He did not fight back, (which he usually does) but when he is at fault, he just accepts the scolding. FYI, he is 7 years old. He understands English and I suppose he understood what I had said because he usually feels very embarrassed when I repeat mentioning his offence, which I did for the rest of the day yesterday and today I sat down and spoke to him instead of yelling. He too sat down and listened. Of course, all this will not change his instincts to chase after a cat or a bird or a mouse. I know that.

I skipped my dinner last night for having punished him and also due to the sadness of seeing a poor cat dead in my compound. I just couldn't sleep because I was so hungry. I could imagine how much he suffered too.

And friends, I gave him his breakfast today morning.

My dog did not eat the cat.

What puzzles me is that why the cat did not escape and also can anyone tell me how does a dog kill a cat? The cat was intact, no physical injuries except for some its fur around the compound. Both my neighbour and I were at home and we did not hear any unusual barking from my dog. My neighbour who is a Muslim who keeps away from dogs was in the defence of my dog. Although she loved the cat better and had actually played with the cat a few hours before its death, she did not blame my dog for what had happened. Instead she said that my dog must have played rough on the cat. Her explanation puzzled me too. She could come to terms with this incident but until now, I can’t. I was upstairs doing my work and all this happened in “silence”? Really puzzling!
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Apr 13, 2010 1:21 AM CST death
bamabulldog08
bamabulldog08bamabulldog08tuscaloosa, Alabama USA24 Threads 972 Posts
mercy: Hello everyone! I saw a terrible scene today morning where my dog had killed a very beautiful cat in my compound. I fail to understand why the cat did not run, or at least hide under my car. My compound is fenced up and I feel so miserable to see a dead animal in my compound. I couldn't trace the cat owner. I buried the poor animal and while at work I was just thinking or rather picturing how much the cat had suffered before it died. Now I have punished my dog without dinner. Am I harsh to my dog?


The dog is an animal, dont punish him for being what he is!very mad
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Apr 13, 2010 1:40 AM CST death
laura139
laura139laura139Broomfield, Colorado USA11 Threads 1 Polls 668 Posts
Hello--please don't punish yourself or the dog, or feel embarassed that the dog was acting on a natural instinct, maybe it wasn't the intent of the dog to kill the
cat because he can't tell you...please be at peace and be loving
to your dog in spite of what you feel such sorrow for...he is your friend, and you don't know when he will leave you, so forgive...

My cats are indoor cats, and when the weather is nice I let them
out--for several years I've done this and last year they each got a bird..I did save one, but the other was dead...I can't
punish my cats...I just try to watch them better, but it may happen again...we can't stop nature....hug
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Apr 13, 2010 4:22 AM CST death
tennesseejudy
tennesseejudytennesseejudyNew Holland, Pennsylvania USA54 Threads 2 Polls 1,540 Posts
Steve5721: Yes, sorry to say that you are. You are punishing an animal ofr being what he is, an animal and a dog.

Dogs hate cats and will chase and if caught will harm one. Same as a cat and a mouse or a bird. Natural instincts.

Feed the dog.


Very sad thread, it hurts to read it. Steve is correct however. It is nature and I have buried sweet birds and small rabbits due to my beloved cat.sad flower hug
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Apr 13, 2010 4:37 AM CST death
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
mercy: I gave him two slaps telling him not to kill a cat.

What puzzles me is that why the cat did not escape and also can anyone tell me how does a dog kill a cat?


Two parts to this...and I am going to be harsh. Slapping the dog for 'killing' the cat is both wrong and out of order. Dogs are wild animals, derived from the wolf. They are wild, but tamed and domesticated by humans...but their instincts are still there. HOWEVER, this is just MY personal opinion.

Second part about why the cat didn't run. Cats and dogs can and do live together, the cat might be used to dogs and not feel threatened by them...until it's too late.

A dog can kill a cat by biting the head and there could be no marks, but the skull could be crushed.
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Apr 13, 2010 10:55 AM CST death
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
Steve5721: Two parts to this...and I am going to be harsh. Slapping the dog for 'killing' the cat is both wrong and out of order. Dogs are wild animals, derived from the wolf. They are wild, but tamed and domesticated by humans...but their instincts are still there. HOWEVER, this is just MY personal opinion.

Second part about why the cat didn't run. Cats and dogs can and do live together, the cat might be used to dogs and not feel threatened by them...until it's too late.

A dog can kill a cat by biting the head and there could be no marks, but the skull could be crushed.


Steve, thank you for your response. I admit that I reacted badly. That is why I discussed this matter at this forum to get responses from people like you. I shall bear this in mind next time.
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Apr 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST death
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
Laura, yes my dog is my son. He is my joy and my one and only companion. I feel miserable for what had happened, but as you say I have to forgive him and be at peace. I know he has only me and he looks forward to my hugs and my praises. Although I have not talked to him for the past 48 hours, I shall make an attempt tomorrow. Thank you.
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Apr 13, 2010 11:01 AM CST death
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
My dear friends, thank you for all the responses. I was feeling miserable not being able to talk to anyone about this incident. I am grateful that I have such wonderful people out there who care for my dog, my son. Thank you. BTW, his name is Lixon Aiko.
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Apr 13, 2010 11:02 AM CST death
deacon6347
deacon6347deacon6347Amado, Arizona USA10 Threads 757 Posts
SHAME ON YOU!! for punishing your dog for following it's natural instincts. It is you who deserves the punishment for failing to recognise natural animal behavior!!thumbs down
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