How often are we misunderstood in our posts? Seems to happen a lot and an arguement ensues. I do not beleive we intend for an arguement to start ,but we have all found ourselves in this I think.
I find it hard to think that we as a group want to argue (well maybe one or two)Now I am not talking about a good old heated debate..but a real arguement.
I think that some mid-eastern and eastern posters are misunderstood the most and I can understand this happening....But with the western cultures you would think it would be less.
Is it that cultures are just differant so we take posts differantly?....Do we not read the post the same way? ...Does the poster not express themselves well? (I feel this is my case alot) and does the reader of a post only take out of it as they wish to and not really try to think what it is the poster is saying and then post before really understanding the other poster?
Now the big questions.
As a group what can we do to lessen this from happening?
Do we as a group want to?
I am genuinely interested it all that wish to express how they feel.
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Its very true..type can come across as aggressive or rude. When in reality its the posters humour. Things can be taken out of context because we dont have the ability to hear tone of voice, or facial expressions..
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Its very true..type can come across as aggressive or rude. When in reality its the posters humour. Things can be taken out of context because we dont have the ability to hear tone of voice, or facial expressions..
plainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines8,175 posts
Thanks for opening up a thread like this one
With personality differences, communication barriers are present. Put in cultural differences, and the barrier thickens a bit more.
I'm learning a lot on how to communicate on here. And I've been misinterpreted a lot of times, oftentimes. I assume as much based from the reactions I'm getting or the absence of it. I've also made a lot of boo boos by reacting instantly without even thinking or understanding what I'm replying to.
I went into the forums prepared to meet different kinds of people and i know, too, that most will be very different from me and prepared to be criticized, told off, or get into every other worse scenarios i could think of.
I guess we should just keep our minds open to receive people as they are. Sense of humor plays a lot on how we can all get along on here. Common courtesy is very valuable too.
I'm just glad most people i met here, so far, are nice.
For me, I am a very literal person. Every exact word counts. Where I find I misunderstand others is when they use a simple word that covers a multitude. Sometimes I find the way I think and write is akin to Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism almost.
Other times it is a difference in attitude about a subject. Usually though, I find it is the combination of words, with a little of another culture thrown in.
I find that when I write, instead of people taking me literally, they read between the lines.........Strange to me, because I never write between the lines, so, I very often get misunderstood.
I come in here and usually don't have to wait long for someone to have a go. Just a normal day for me. It never stops me posting what I want to say though, no matter how many people question me.
Other times I step back at look at a subject from another angle, or take an opposing view to give a debate body. That very often gets misunderstood, even gets quite nasty, if my views are not the same as "normal" people.
It has never really bothered me though. People are just people, even through millions of shades of ignorance and genius.
plainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines8,175 posts
Thanks for opening up a thread like this one
With personality differences, communication barriers are present. Put in cultural differences, and the barrier thickens a bit more.
I'm learning a lot on how to communicate on here. And I've been misinterpreted a lot of times, oftentimes. I assume as much based from the reactions I'm getting or the absence of it. I've also made a lot of boo boos by reacting instantly without even thinking or understanding what I'm replying to.
I went into the forums prepared to meet different kinds of people, unique with different experiences from all walks of life. And i know, too, that most will be very different from me and prepared to be criticized, told off, or get into every other worse scenarios i could think of.
I guess we should just keep our minds open to receive people as they are. Sense of humor plays a lot on how we can all get along on here. Common courtesy is very valuable too. As much as we want to lessen misunderstandings, it will happen.
I'm just glad most people i met here, so far, have been nothing but great.
Amity: Its very true..type can come across as aggressive or rude. When in reality its the posters humour. Things can be taken out of context because we dont have the ability to hear tone of voice, or facial expressions..
True and I agree ...so what can we do to lessen this and do you think we should ?
plainlyjune: Thanks for opening up a thread like this one
With personality differences, communication barriers are present. Put in cultural differences, and the barrier thickens a bit more.
I'm learning a lot on how to communicate on here. And I've been misinterpreted a lot of times, oftentimes. I assume as much based from the reactions I'm getting or the absence of it. I've also made a lot of boo boos by reacting instantly without even thinking or understanding what I'm replying to.
I went into the forums prepared to meet different kinds of people and i know, too, that most will be very different from me and prepared to be criticized, told off, or get into every other worse scenarios i could think of.
I guess we should just keep our minds open to receive people as they are. Sense of humor plays a lot on how we can all get along on here. Common courtesy is very valuable too.
I'm just glad most people i met here, so far, are nice.
Well it seems you do really well compaired to some of the other eastern posters that have posted....you seem to have a very good command of the English Lag. So I would think in your case it would be more of a cultural thing and simply misunderstanding what is said and finding the right words to say what you wish to say.
also not sure of other languages..but with english a word can be used seveal ways so it matters greatly HOW it is used in a sentance...
Amity: Its very true..type can come across as aggressive or rude. When in reality its the posters humour. Things can be taken out of context because we dont have the ability to hear tone of voice, or facial expressions..
And some people don't take the time to look for the humour or perhaps can't see it. They just retaliate immediately in the same abrassive manner in which it has been perceived.
I usually put in a laughing emote to show that my intent is humour whether understood or not.
GingerBe: For me, I am a very literal person. Every exact word counts. Where I find I misunderstand others is when they use a simple word that covers a multitude. Sometimes I find the way I think and write is akin to Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism almost.
Other times it is a difference in attitude about a subject. Usually though, I find it is the combination of words, with a little of another culture thrown in.
I find that when I write, instead of people taking me literally, they read between the lines.........Strange to me, because I never write between the lines, so, I very often get misunderstood.
I come in here and usually don't have to wait long for someone to have a go. Just a normal day for me. It never stops me posting what I want to say though, no matter how many people question me.
Other times I step back at look at a subject from another angle, or take an opposing view to give a debate body. That very often gets misunderstood, even gets quite nasty, if my views are not the same as "normal" people.
It has never really bothered me though. People are just people, even through millions of shades of ignorance and genius.
Ok Ginger you have a grasp on what the problem for you is...so what do we need to do so that does not happen so much..also what do you think you could do to lessen it....or do you think we should as they say 'Let sleeping dog lie"
RDM59: And some people don't take the time to look for the humour or perhaps can't see it. They just retaliate immediately in the same abrassive manner in which it has been perceived.
I usually put in a laughing emote to show that my intent is humour whether understood or not.
Yes humour is very cultural and taken differantly from even neighbor to neighbor well alone country to country ...or culture to culture...
As a group what can we do to lessen this from happening?
Do we as a group want to?
I am genuinely interested it all that wish to express how they feel.
Big..?? difficult..?? It's SIMPLE... LEARN to communicate CORRECTLY grammatically, with PROPER usage, spelling, and at an adult level in WHATever language youchoose.. It IS the duty of the POSTER to get THEIR thought, idea, etc across to the reader.. NOT the reader's job to try and decipher whatever some chuckle-head pecks out onto a forum.. Just MY opinion.. your's may vary... ---SoldierByte---
davpk10: Ok Ginger you have a grasp on what the problem for you is...so what do we need to do so that does not happen so much..also what do you think you could do to lessen it....or do you think we should as they say 'Let sleeping dog lie"
I'd tend to leave it alone. Time cures all things. As people respond, others will notice if their over-all intentions are good or not, and from that it will help them interpret future posts without basically changing anything, because they have a better understanding of the person behind the posts.
My views on people here are determined, not by what they say, but by their reactions to what others say.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
GingerBe: I'd tend to leave it alone. Time cures all things. As people respond, others will notice if their over-all intentions are good or not, and from that it will help them interpret future posts without basically changing anything, because they have a better understanding of the person behind the posts.
My views on people here are determined, not by what they say, but by their reactions to what others say.
Last sentence is so true...
I also believe there are posters who look for confrontation with every post made towards them. They go too far sometimes and never read between the lines of good natured intention.
plainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines8,175 posts
davpk10: Well it seems you do really well compaired to some of the other eastern posters that have posted....you seem to have a very good command of the English Lag. So I would think in your case it would be more of a cultural thing and simply misunderstanding what is said and finding the right words to say what you wish to say.
also not sure of other languages..but with english a word can be used seveal ways so it matters greatly HOW it is used in a sentance...
SoldierByte: Big..?? difficult..?? It's SIMPLE... LEARN to communicate CORRECTLY grammatically, with PROPER usage, spelling, and at an adult level in WHATever language you choose.. It IS the duty of the POSTER to get THEIR thought, idea, etc across to the reader.. NOT the reader's job to try and decipher whatever some chuckle-head pecks out onto a forum.. Just MY opinion.. your's may vary... ---SoldierByte---
first that may be very hard for some that Englis is not thier first lag. and seems somewhat unfair to me...
the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended...
third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....
fourth part.... It does greatly....
Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
I also believe there are posters who look for confrontation with every post made towards them. They go too far sometimes and never read between the lines of good natured intention.
I agree Ken....but I find this part can work both ways good and badly.....
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How often are we misunderstood in our posts? Seems to happen a lot and an arguement ensues. I do not beleive we intend for an arguement to start ,but we have all found ourselves in this I think.
I find it hard to think that we as a group want to argue (well maybe one or two)Now I am not talking about a good old heated debate..but a real arguement.
I think that some mid-eastern and eastern posters are misunderstood the most and I can understand this happening....But with the western cultures you would think it would be less.
Is it that cultures are just differant so we take posts differantly?....Do we not read the post the same way? ...Does the poster not express themselves well? (I feel this is my case alot) and does the reader of a post only take out of it as they wish to and not really try to think what it is the poster is saying and then post before really understanding the other poster?
Now the big questions.
As a group what can we do to lessen this from happening?
Do we as a group want to?
I am genuinely interested it all that wish to express how they feel.