Communication (82)
viva007: well am poor in English and many misunderstand me in here but I take these forums as a way to improve my written communication skills
Well you would not be the first to do this and be taken wrongly....just keep posting....you'll be fine...
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first that may be very hard for some that Englis is not thier first lag.
Then "communicate" in what they KNOW, instead
of trying to pretend something else..
and seems somewhat unfair to me...
Life is unfair.. DEAL with it..!!
the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended... it IS NOT..
check your English usage.. ( I cannot speak for other languages)
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third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....I just call em like I see em..
and I did STATE it is: " my OPINION"..
:
fourth part.... It does greatly....
I say..
Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
And thank you.. as I feel (KNOW) that
I get MY thought. idea. opinion, etc.
across quite plainly, correctly and with
all the proper meanings, nuances, etc. directed
and delivered as crafted and desired..
---SoldierByte---
Then "communicate" in what they KNOW, instead
of trying to pretend something else..
and seems somewhat unfair to me...
Life is unfair.. DEAL with it..!!
the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended... it IS NOT..
check your English usage.. ( I cannot speak for other languages)
:third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....I just call em like I see em..
and I did STATE it is: " my OPINION"..
:fourth part.... It does greatly....
I say..
Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
And thank you..
as I feel (KNOW) that I get MY thought. idea. opinion, etc.
across quite plainly, correctly and with
all the proper meanings, nuances, etc. directed
and delivered as crafted and desired..
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davpk10: Well you would not be the first to do this and be taken wrongly....just keep posting....you'll be fine...
Thankyou
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SoldierByte: first that may be very hard for some that Englis is not thier first lag.
Then "communicate" in what they KNOW, instead
of trying to pretend something else..
and seems somewhat unfair to me...
Life is unfair.. DEAL with it..!!the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended... it IS NOT..
check your English usage.. ( I cannot speak for other languages) :third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....I just call em like I see em..
and I did STATE it is: " my OPINION".. :fourth part.... It does greatly....
I say..
Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
And thank you.. as I feel (KNOW) that
I get MY thought. idea. opinion, etc.
across quite plainly, correctly and with
all the proper meanings, nuances, etc. directed
and delivered as crafted and desired..
---SoldierByte---
I believe it is CS rules that posters text in English as this is an english speaking forum....so they are doing the best they can ,I would think...if it is to much trouble for you to help in the matter that is of course up to you....the rest you are absolutly correct in all you posted...Then "communicate" in what they KNOW, instead
of trying to pretend something else..
and seems somewhat unfair to me...
Life is unfair.. DEAL with it..!!the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended... it IS NOT..
check your English usage.. ( I cannot speak for other languages) :third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....I just call em like I see em..
and I did STATE it is: " my OPINION".. :fourth part.... It does greatly....
I say..
Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
And thank you.. as I feel (KNOW) that
I get MY thought. idea. opinion, etc.
across quite plainly, correctly and with
all the proper meanings, nuances, etc. directed
and delivered as crafted and desired..
---SoldierByte---
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The spelling police drive me nuts 
I'd like to see them spell as well in another language as some of our non English speaking friends do here
I also think that the ones who cause arguments come here to deliberately look for them., They will nit pic at posts until they justify themselves that they can make an argument out of it.
We all know someone personally who is like that I'm sure
I'd like to see them spell as well in another language as some of our non English speaking friends do here
I also think that the ones who cause arguments come here to deliberately look for them., They will nit pic at posts until they justify themselves that they can make an argument out of it.
We all know someone personally who is like that I'm sure
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SummerUK: The spelling police drive me nuts
I'd like to see them spell as well in another language as some of our non English speaking friends do here
I also think that the ones who cause arguments come here to deliberately look for them., They will nit pic at posts until they justify themselves that they can make an argument out of it.
We all know someone personally who is like that I'm sure
I'd like to see them spell as well in another language as some of our non English speaking friends do here
I also think that the ones who cause arguments come here to deliberately look for them., They will nit pic at posts until they justify themselves that they can make an argument out of it.
We all know someone personally who is like that I'm sure
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davpk10: This is a tricky thing I think here.How often are we misunderstood in our posts? Seems to happen a lot and an arguement ensues. I do not beleive we intend for an arguement to start ,but we have all found ourselves in this I think.
I find it hard to think that we as a group want to argue (well maybe one or two)Now I am not talking about a good old heated debate..but a real arguement.
I think that some mid-eastern and eastern posters are misunderstood the most and I can understand this happening....But with the western cultures you would think it would be less.
Is it that cultures are just differant so we take posts differantly?....Do we not read the post the same way? ...Does the poster not express themselves well? (I feel this is my case alot) and does the reader of a post only take out of it as they wish to and not really try to think what it is the poster is saying and then post before really understanding the other poster?
Now the big questions.
As a group what can we do to lessen this from happening?
Do we as a group want to?
I am genuinely interested it all that wish to express how they feel.
I find it hard to think that we as a group want to argue (well maybe one or two)Now I am not talking about a good old heated debate..but a real arguement.
I think that some mid-eastern and eastern posters are misunderstood the most and I can understand this happening....But with the western cultures you would think it would be less.
Is it that cultures are just differant so we take posts differantly?....Do we not read the post the same way? ...Does the poster not express themselves well? (I feel this is my case alot) and does the reader of a post only take out of it as they wish to and not really try to think what it is the poster is saying and then post before really understanding the other poster?
Now the big questions.
As a group what can we do to lessen this from happening?
Do we as a group want to?
I am genuinely interested it all that wish to express how they feel.
I believe all your suppositions are correct in various situations. I also believe that people that have been on CS forums for a while know each other, respect each other and know who the known trouble makers are. Being said that, where I am hinting is that I do not usually think the worst about someone I know, but I do get annoyed when my posts are taken the wrong way or misunderstood by newbies.
Not sure there's something that we can do about that as a group, except for these few:
1. start some English lessons
2. take a deep breath
3. group therapy
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viva007: well am poor in English and many misunderstand me in here but I take these forums as a way to improve my written communication skills
And you do a very good job of it too. I find your level of English to be very good, far better than one or two of your countrymen.
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SummerUK: , They will nit pic at posts until they
Shouldn't that be NIT PICK?
Sorry...couldn't help it!!
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davpk10: first that may be very hard for some that Englis is not thier first lag. and seems somewhat unfair to me...the second part....I disagree I think it falls on both partys to understand things as it is intended...
third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....fourth part.... It does greatly....Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
third part....seeing poster as "chuckle-heads" is part of the problem I would think....fourth part.... It does greatly....Thanks for posting as your opinion does have value even if we all do not see things in the same light ...
webtranslation.paralink.com,
and many others like these would help. If a person has time to spend online, could very well improve their English. I am not a native English speaker either, but I strongly believe that life is a learning process
JMHO
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I stay off those threads where they fight,do fun threads,use smileys to help get my point across,but some times people have dirty minds and take what i said that way and i either explain or just joke about it with them.Its all about fun and having a good time on here with me,not fighting although there are a couple people on here who try to bait you into a fight. 
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SoldierByte: Big..??
difficult..??
It's SIMPLE...
LEARN to communicate CORRECTLY grammatically,
with PROPER usage, spelling, and at an adult level
in WHATever language you choose..
It IS the duty of the POSTER
to get THEIR thought, idea, etc across to the reader..
NOT the reader's job to try and decipher whatever
some chuckle-head pecks out onto a forum..
Just MY opinion..
your's may vary...
---SoldierByte---
difficult..??
It's SIMPLE...
LEARN to communicate CORRECTLY grammatically,
with PROPER usage, spelling, and at an adult level
in WHATever language you choose..
It IS the duty of the POSTER
to get THEIR thought, idea, etc across to the reader..
NOT the reader's job to try and decipher whatever
some chuckle-head pecks out onto a forum..
Just MY opinion..
your's may vary...
---SoldierByte---
Well, for me, this is a good example of possible misunderstanding.
Are you saying, I would be allowed to post here in French, provided that my grammar, spelling and level of intelligence are correct.
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Liebe2: webtranslation.paralink.com,
and many others like these would help. If a person has time to spend online, could very well improve their English. I am not a native English speaker either, but I strongly believe that life is a learning process
JMHO
True ...but you must agree that a second lag. may come much easier for some than for others...I am one of them ...I took two years of French in school and failed two years of French....I would also say that I barely passed English for four years....and there are ones that do and have used these forums to improve thier English ....I believe Boban is one that did this....but the idea of this thread is to discuss the reasons for arguement and perhaps find a way to see less of them ....or perhaps not.....I would like to see less fighting and more good topics up for adult debate....and many others like these would help. If a person has time to spend online, could very well improve their English. I am not a native English speaker either, but I strongly believe that life is a learning process
JMHO
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gabrielle95: Well, for me, this is a good example of possible misunderstanding.
Are you saying, I would be allowed to post here in French, provided that my grammar, spelling and level of intelligence are correct.
Are you saying, I would be allowed to post here in French, provided that my grammar, spelling and level of intelligence are correct.
That's fine by me
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gabrielle95: Well, for me, this is a good example of possible misunderstanding.
Are you saying, I would be allowed to post here in French, provided that my grammar, spelling and level of intelligence are correct.
Are you saying, I would be allowed to post here in French, provided that my grammar, spelling and level of intelligence are correct.
Hi Gabe
Nice pic. How's your man? Has he visited yet?
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davpk10: I believe it is CS rules that posters text in English as this is an english speaking forum....so they are doing the best they can ,I would think...if it is to much trouble for you to help in the matter that is of course up to you....the rest you are absolutly correct in all you posted...
Unlike some...
I am not a teacher, helper, educator, or
the overseer to "babysit" ANY one..
Trouble..??
Nope..!! It is neither my place or job to
try and decipher the meanings of what
"others" try to convey..
I'm just a member here..
playing, chatting, and voicing MY opinions..
SOME understand..
SOME do not...
I neither care or am concerned..
I assist when asked..
and am only able to give what I have/know..
Were I perfect....
The FIRST place I would not be...
is HERE..............!!!!!
---SoldierByte--- 
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loverboy690: is this close enough till thenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVLe_qUA89c&feature=related
Interesting
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I am an English Professor, and so I have a natural love for the English language, but as a foreign teacher I fully understand the difficulties that non English speakers can have when posting. That said,because I take pride in my language and because I tend to write exactly what I would speak face to face, I often get accused of being pompous or snobbish, water off a ducks back to me, but I have noticed that these comments usually come from those who , lets say, appear, to be less well educated.
I don't believe I am confrontational, however, I will have my say when I see something that to my mind is wrong, I realise that my opinion is just that, MY opinion and that others will disagree, but enjoy a debate, debates though, should end up either by changing someone's original belief or agreeing to disagree, on CS, however, they seem to end up getting deleted and posters sent to Jail
I don't believe I am confrontational, however, I will have my say when I see something that to my mind is wrong, I realise that my opinion is just that, MY opinion and that others will disagree, but enjoy a debate, debates though, should end up either by changing someone's original belief or agreeing to disagree, on CS, however, they seem to end up getting deleted and posters sent to Jail
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