Are woman mean? (219)
Danny48: PS The assumption you have bought her body or favours is insulting to women.
You buy a meal. That's all.
You buy a meal. That's all.
Please cn you tell me the country where it is custom for the lady to pay. I would sell up here in Spain and move tomorrow. But I am not serious about that just making the point.
Some lady wrote to me recently and said that we would not get on as she does not like talking about money. What world is she living in? Does she think males do not have electricity or water bills? Does she think there are trees that money grows on for males only to pluck?
Another person said it is tradition and always has been like that. Well wars have always been and many people killed, it is still so but does that make it right.
One lady said I should state my views in my profile, so she has not read it as I make it plain how I see the world.
That is the reason no doubt that I have many viewers but no takers. I can live with that as they if they are nice people but not with my thinking then they are the losers. I am genuine as my name states but not a fool that has worked hard all my life to give money to strangers.
Some lady wrote to me recently and said that we would not get on as she does not like talking about money. What world is she living in? Does she think males do not have electricity or water bills? Does she think there are trees that money grows on for males only to pluck?
Another person said it is tradition and always has been like that. Well wars have always been and many people killed, it is still so but does that make it right.
One lady said I should state my views in my profile, so she has not read it as I make it plain how I see the world.
That is the reason no doubt that I have many viewers but no takers. I can live with that as they if they are nice people but not with my thinking then they are the losers. I am genuine as my name states but not a fool that has worked hard all my life to give money to strangers.
GenuineMale: Please cn you tell me the country where it is custom for the lady to pay. I would sell up here in Spain and move tomorrow. But I am not serious about that just making the point.
Some lady wrote to me recently and said that we would not get on as she does not like talking about money. What world is she living in? Does she think males do not have electricity or water bills? Does she think there are trees that money grows on for males only to pluck?
Another person said it is tradition and always has been like that. Well wars have always been and many people killed, it is still so but does that make it right.
One lady said I should state my views in my profile, so she has not read it as I make it plain how I see the world.
That is the reason no doubt that I have many viewers but no takers. I can live with that as they if they are nice people but not with my thinking then they are the losers. I am genuine as my name states but not a fool that has worked hard all my life to give money to strangers.
Some lady wrote to me recently and said that we would not get on as she does not like talking about money. What world is she living in? Does she think males do not have electricity or water bills? Does she think there are trees that money grows on for males only to pluck?
Another person said it is tradition and always has been like that. Well wars have always been and many people killed, it is still so but does that make it right.
One lady said I should state my views in my profile, so she has not read it as I make it plain how I see the world.
That is the reason no doubt that I have many viewers but no takers. I can live with that as they if they are nice people but not with my thinking then they are the losers. I am genuine as my name states but not a fool that has worked hard all my life to give money to strangers.
So, you are the one looking to be paid for.......... ( many a true word spoke in jest )
Talking about money before meeting someone is very distastful to some people.
You sure have made yourself clear here in the forum.
Not a fool......no ....you have your money for company.
GenuineMale: PI am genuine as my name states but not a fool that has worked hard all my life to give money to strangers.
GM.........stop talking about how many green backs a meal costs and butter up a woman, take her out (you pay no Q's asked)..And well it's the weekend you just might get lucky...For get about the pennies..Who's to say a bus wont knock you over tomorrow and you're dead . What good is all the green backs you've saved going to do then? Get out an live life stop being a penny pinching scrooge.
My latest ”adventure” liked to pay for me (I assume that he likes to pay for women he dates in general) at a restaurant or café, especially if it was his initiative. True to be told, it’s never was too expensive places, which also suited me. (He liked to give flowers as well. And no, it wasn’t baskets with expensive roses, very often if was something he borrowed from nature when passing by... not in winter though...)
But our very first date happened in a park – he invited me for a “walk”. I thought it was unusual and cute, and went with good mood, and it indeed was unusual and cute. A windy but sunny day, autumn, trees are in fire of gold and red, very beautiful... Later I’ve learned that he couldn’t afford to take me for a dinner at that time, and it would never be convenient for him to split the bill on the first date. (I had a couple of bananas with me, so we didn’t die of starvation.)
Though I can pay for my food, I liked his approach very much. And as I see it – it’s not about money, it’s about attitude. It made me to feel courted, to feel feminine. Which “first friends” spiel doesn’t. By the way, later in relationship he accepted dinners that I cooked without hesitation.
But our very first date happened in a park – he invited me for a “walk”. I thought it was unusual and cute, and went with good mood, and it indeed was unusual and cute. A windy but sunny day, autumn, trees are in fire of gold and red, very beautiful... Later I’ve learned that he couldn’t afford to take me for a dinner at that time, and it would never be convenient for him to split the bill on the first date. (I had a couple of bananas with me, so we didn’t die of starvation.)
Though I can pay for my food, I liked his approach very much. And as I see it – it’s not about money, it’s about attitude. It made me to feel courted, to feel feminine. Which “first friends” spiel doesn’t. By the way, later in relationship he accepted dinners that I cooked without hesitation.
A former millionaire is talking to his grandchildren:
Now, children, you listen to me! The most of my fortune I spent on ladies and wine... but the rest of it I spent very stupidly...
Now, children, you listen to me! The most of my fortune I spent on ladies and wine... but the rest of it I spent very stupidly...
Tulefel: Bravo!
I don't think women are mean, but they can be if they want to...
GenuineMale: Well now, if contact is made via a dating site then the first meeting is as friends or should be and then if both feel a further meeting is of interest then the meeting is closer friends and so on until both decide that each can give the other what they are both looking for when joining the site.
Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.
I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.
My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.
Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.
I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.
My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.
You don't appear to be a very giving person in any sense of the word Genuine, I'm sorry to say.
If the cost of a meal is so important to you then never ask any lady to meet up, wait till they ask you and then they pay...simple.
And just for the record, I'm happy to pay my own way as are most of the ladies have met on CS or socially.
Good luck in your search.
I consider myself a genuine male as I am trustworthy, honest and kind hearted. But not stupid enough ANY LONGER to keep paying for woman to eat out and be entertained who from my experience up to date only list themselves on Internet dating sites for free meals.
Perhaps there are fair ladies out there who understand my views and will contact me so that a genuine friendship can develop on the basis of a possible relationship?
It seems men list temselves and genuinely are looking for love, but woman often do not. We can only speak from experience.
Perhaps there are fair ladies out there who understand my views and will contact me so that a genuine friendship can develop on the basis of a possible relationship?
It seems men list temselves and genuinely are looking for love, but woman often do not. We can only speak from experience.
I can well understand that all woman see it as you do. Perhaps it has something to do with woman generally not feeling equal to men? You want equal pay and rightly so, but surely do you not want to spend your equal pay in the same way.
Personally I am not desperate and enjoy my single living very much but a genuine partner that meets me half way in everything would be nice. I see woman as equal to men and have always done so. I know there must be woman out there who see it my way, just they mostly do not need to list themselves on Internet dating sites as they are, with their fairness in great demand.
I speak with experience and have spent many hundreds of Euro entertaining and just know most woman see this as normal behaviour. I wonder why?
Personally I am not desperate and enjoy my single living very much but a genuine partner that meets me half way in everything would be nice. I see woman as equal to men and have always done so. I know there must be woman out there who see it my way, just they mostly do not need to list themselves on Internet dating sites as they are, with their fairness in great demand.
I speak with experience and have spent many hundreds of Euro entertaining and just know most woman see this as normal behaviour. I wonder why?
I have met many woman who list themselves as wanting a genuine partner, but always and every time never offer, and I mean OFFER to pay toward the cost of the evening.
Your comments are most welcome as they tell me that there are fair minded ladies and that is a great comfort to me. Thank you.
A few months ago I met a nice lady in Germany and she suggested a place we could have a meal at. It was a normal type of meal and the bill came to 85 Euro. I paid but said this place is expensive. She replied THAT IS NOT EXPENSIVE. So I said OK just give me 40 Euro toward what I have paid. That did not go down well at all and I said to her, you see that you do not consider that expensive as it is not your money that has paid the bill. I do believe she has slowly realised how wrong and not fair this attitude is, as she still writes me often and has now asked to visit me in Spain. I have said fine, I will bring a hat to the airport with 50 Euro in it to start off with, you can put 50 Euro in and we will get on great.
I do believe she will arrive!
Please ladies, think about it and do not state that stupid talk it is tradition.
Your comments are most welcome as they tell me that there are fair minded ladies and that is a great comfort to me. Thank you.
A few months ago I met a nice lady in Germany and she suggested a place we could have a meal at. It was a normal type of meal and the bill came to 85 Euro. I paid but said this place is expensive. She replied THAT IS NOT EXPENSIVE. So I said OK just give me 40 Euro toward what I have paid. That did not go down well at all and I said to her, you see that you do not consider that expensive as it is not your money that has paid the bill. I do believe she has slowly realised how wrong and not fair this attitude is, as she still writes me often and has now asked to visit me in Spain. I have said fine, I will bring a hat to the airport with 50 Euro in it to start off with, you can put 50 Euro in and we will get on great.
I do believe she will arrive!
Please ladies, think about it and do not state that stupid talk it is tradition.
is she mean just becuase she let you pay for the dinner? 
she may be a very nice and kind person for that.
if you don't have money why don't you do something else that is free or cheap on your first dates like take her for a walk, to see some sights, or go to an art exhibition? then if you still like each other you can tell her what you think about the situaion and you can cook at home, which is cheaper, and you can share the expences for products
she may be a very nice and kind person for that.
if you don't have money why don't you do something else that is free or cheap on your first dates like take her for a walk, to see some sights, or go to an art exhibition? then if you still like each other you can tell her what you think about the situaion and you can cook at home, which is cheaper, and you can share the expences for products
Thank yopu for your comment. I do feel Swedish ladies are much more sensible in their approach to this subject on the forum. Actually I am not poor and can afford to spend on dates, but I see no reason why and that is my whole point.
Allk I look for is fairness, so if a lady offered I may accept or I may not, it depends on how I see the future for us, what her own financial situation is and most talk about this freely without my even asking. If I really feel there is no sense in any further meeting then I would accept 50% as why give money to what was until that day a stranger and will become one again.
Allk I look for is fairness, so if a lady offered I may accept or I may not, it depends on how I see the future for us, what her own financial situation is and most talk about this freely without my even asking. If I really feel there is no sense in any further meeting then I would accept 50% as why give money to what was until that day a stranger and will become one again.
Hey Englishman 55, great view and experiences you have had.
I urge all male participants in this obviously well read thread to look at their next credit card statement and how much you are due to pay in interest to the bankers who have paid themselves huge bonuses and then think hard about why you accept this situation. The ladies you have paid for may also owe money to their credit cards but not for money they have spent on you.
I have been financially prudent all my life and have no concerns and at my age should not have. I aim to keep it that way.
Add up what it costs to have two wonderful long term marriages as I have (see my profile) imagine how hard I have worked for over 50 years and then think to yourself "this guy has a point".
On the other hand some say they rather die owing a million than owning a million. But owing a million will not go away as the creditors and others will ensure your kids have little left.
I am ever so glad I started this thread. May it continue for a long time! It is fun reading all the different views.
I urge all male participants in this obviously well read thread to look at their next credit card statement and how much you are due to pay in interest to the bankers who have paid themselves huge bonuses and then think hard about why you accept this situation. The ladies you have paid for may also owe money to their credit cards but not for money they have spent on you.
I have been financially prudent all my life and have no concerns and at my age should not have. I aim to keep it that way.
Add up what it costs to have two wonderful long term marriages as I have (see my profile) imagine how hard I have worked for over 50 years and then think to yourself "this guy has a point".
On the other hand some say they rather die owing a million than owning a million. But owing a million will not go away as the creditors and others will ensure your kids have little left.
I am ever so glad I started this thread. May it continue for a long time! It is fun reading all the different views.
Cheap entertainment
Entertainment?
Not at all but educating and helpful, all the comments including yours.
Entertainment is watching Queens Tennis at London on the TV. Which I love and looking forward to Wimbledon Tennis and thereafter to leave in my Motor Home to travel for a few months.
Life is good and some honest and fair minded lady out there is missing out. After all I do supply the motor home that was as costly as some houses and all I would expect is 50% of the fuel cost. I suppose that also is not acceptable to ladies?
Better off on my own and I can see that once again and will enjoy my trip to whereever it leads.
Some people can not see a good deal when it is staring them in the face.
Not at all but educating and helpful, all the comments including yours.
Entertainment is watching Queens Tennis at London on the TV. Which I love and looking forward to Wimbledon Tennis and thereafter to leave in my Motor Home to travel for a few months.
Life is good and some honest and fair minded lady out there is missing out. After all I do supply the motor home that was as costly as some houses and all I would expect is 50% of the fuel cost. I suppose that also is not acceptable to ladies?
Better off on my own and I can see that once again and will enjoy my trip to whereever it leads.
Some people can not see a good deal when it is staring them in the face.
GenuineMale: Well now, if contact is made via a dating site then the first meeting is as friends or should be and then if both feel a further meeting is of interest then the meeting is closer friends and so on until both decide that each can give the other what they are both looking for when joining the site.
Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.
I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.
My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.
Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.
I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.
My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.
Well.......I think you are really mean with money, if I would notice your hesitation about paying, believe me I would probably pay the bill and make sure never to meet you again!
It is a fact that most women in Europe earn less than their male counterparts and if a guy is that tight on the first date it shows me how the relationship will pan out. Your whole attitude speaks for itself....by the way I am a single mother, my husband died and no pension or settlement!!!
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ok this is what i think and i am a women 110 % and if i get invidet from a gentelmann, i do not expect to pay for my what ever,
ok i am italien and in italy a man will never ever let a women pay, it is against his masculinita and honor , because if you can not afford to pay a dinner or lunch for a lady, i think you should go and eat with your man friends or allone, and i dont think enny women will pay her meal with a different sevice,
the thing is, that non latin country male, think the are gods giving gift and a lady of a certan age should be happy to have an old groutch for companie , well , i prefer to eat at home also because i am a chef and my friends do the shopping and i do the cooking and the clean up.
so my advise, dont be so stingi and choose your female friends befor you go out with them and pay, but only if you think she is werth it and not only because you dont want to eat allone, and then you will see, maby, if she had a nice time , she will invite you
Ciao Eli,
I don't mind paying or sharing or taking it in turns but definitely not on a first date. On a first date, I would like to do the honours and certainly do not expect a lady to pay her own way. Mostly my lady friend and I take it in turns to cook our meals and then go out for a ride on the bike. It is much more fun like that. It is certainly better than thinking of money all the time.
Do you still like Gozo?