The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act ( Archived) (74)

Jun 22, 2010 9:46 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
A new law signed by the president yesterday gives the Food and Drug Administration the ability to regulate the tobacco industry. The primary focus of the law is to stop cigarette companies from aggressively marketing to children.

To that end, it will soon be illegal to:

sell candy-flavored and fruit-flavored cigarettes
put tobacco company logos on sporting, athletic or entertainment events or on clothing and other promotional items
place outdoor tobacco ads within 1,000 feet of schools and playgrounds
There are some other changes coming for all smokers, including adults:

tobacco companies will be prohibited from using terms such as “low tar,” “light” or “mild” – so-called light cigarettes make no difference to a smoker’s health
cigarette packages will carry larger warning labels, up to 50% of the surface of one side
depending on the results of upcoming FDA studies, tobacco companies may be required to reduce the amount of nicotine in cigarettes – nicotine is the strongly-addictive stimulant which makes cigarettes a logical part of the FDA’s oversight
To summarize: cigarettes, aside from the candy-flavored kind, aren’t going anywhere, though they may become less addictive.



Lawmakers have been trying to pass this legislation for over a decade. 70% of the House voted in favor, as well as 79% of the Senate.

And according to CNN:

Despite a significant decrease in the percentage of Americans who smoke in recent decades, more than 400,000 Americans still die from tobacco-related illnesses every year, the president noted. Tobacco-related health care costs exceed $100 billion annually.
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Jun 22, 2010 9:52 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
ooby_dooby: A new law signed by the president yesterday gives the Food and Drug Administration the ability to regulate the tobacco industry. The primary focus of the law is to stop cigarette companies from aggressively marketing to children.

To that end, it will soon be illegal to:

sell candy-flavored and fruit-flavored cigarettes
put tobacco company logos on sporting, athletic or entertainment events or on clothing and other promotional items
place outdoor tobacco ads within 1,000 feet of schools and playgrounds
There are some other changes coming for all smokers, including adults:

tobacco companies will be prohibited from using terms such as “low tar,” “light” or “mild” – so-called light cigarettes make no difference to a smoker’s health
cigarette packages will carry larger warning labels, up to 50% of the surface of one side
depending on the results of upcoming FDA studies, tobacco companies may be required to reduce the amount of nicotine in cigarettes – nicotine is the strongly-addictive stimulant which makes cigarettes a logical part of the FDA’s oversight
To summarize: cigarettes, aside from the candy-flavored kind, aren’t going anywhere, though they may become less addictive.
Lawmakers have been trying to pass this legislation for over a decade. 70% of the House voted in favor, as well as 79% of the Senate.

And according to CNN:

Despite a significant decrease in the percentage of Americans who smoke in recent decades, more than 400,000 Americans still die from tobacco-related illnesses every year, the president noted. Tobacco-related health care costs exceed $100 billion annually.


Does the report also say how much Tax is collected via the tobacco trade? When they are banned completely that revenue will have to come from somewhere, most likely all those people who complain about smokers will have to dig deeper into their pockets, what goes around comes around!!
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Jun 22, 2010 10:00 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
rizlared: Does the report also say how much Tax is collected via the tobacco trade? When they are banned completely that revenue will have to come from somewhere, most likely all those people who complain about smokers will have to dig deeper into their pockets, what goes around comes around!!
Chicken will definitely come home to roost!laugh
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Jun 22, 2010 10:07 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
deadbutwhy
deadbutwhydeadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia9 Threads 2 Polls 1,295 Posts
Conrad73: Ask DuPont and Hearst about the Hemp-Issue!
A superb analysis of the financial aspect of smoking from Willem Buiter:
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Jun 22, 2010 10:08 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
I also heard on the news this morning that it is now illegal in all 50 states to sell tobacco products to anyone under 18 years of age.
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Jun 22, 2010 10:11 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
ooby_dooby: That is the same argument people use to justify the alcohol trade. Did you miss this "Tobacco-related health care costs exceed $100 billion annually."
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But the $100 Billion doesn't come from the Govt funds though...I assume it's costing Insurance companies that...so in reallity, the Govt coffers would lose the tax it receives right now.
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Jun 22, 2010 10:16 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
applause "It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood", an incompletent community organizer, who cannot even coordinate efforts in culf clean up, is helping citizens clean up their lungs. WHAT AN F'ING WIZARD!
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Jun 22, 2010 11:42 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
ooby_dooby: I also heard on the news this morning that it is now illegal in all 50 states to sell tobacco products to anyone under 18 years of age.
Same-thing here!
Need to be 18,and show proof if asked!
Used to be Sixteen in my days!conversing
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Jun 22, 2010 11:46 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
bittersweet28467
bittersweet28467bittersweet28467Calabash, North Carolina USA18 Threads 2 Polls 467 Posts
ooby_dooby: I also heard on the news this morning that it is now illegal in all 50 states to sell tobacco products to anyone under 18 years of age.


I thought that was already the case...
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Jun 22, 2010 11:50 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
bittersweet28467
bittersweet28467bittersweet28467Calabash, North Carolina USA18 Threads 2 Polls 467 Posts
I was planning to quit again in the next couple of weeks... maybe this will add to my motivation. True the tax money will decline, if they reduce the amount of nicotine that just means more packs sold to achieve the same level in your bloodstream... I sure with they would just legalize everything and tax it instead of wasting money trying to fight it... People are going to do what people are going to do regardless. We can spend money imprisoning them, attempting to enforce ineffective laws and fighting human nature or we can make money legalizing it and taxing it. Everyone knows the two legal sins... alcohol and tobacco... are the worst for you, the most addictive and have the highest cost socially (medical care, treatment, incarceration, etc.)
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Jun 22, 2010 1:50 PM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
bittersweet28467: I was planning to quit again in the next couple of weeks... maybe this will add to my motivation. True the tax money will decline, if they reduce the amount of nicotine that just means more packs sold to achieve the same level in your bloodstream... I sure with they would just legalize everything and tax it instead of wasting money trying to fight it... People are going to do what people are going to do regardless. We can spend money imprisoning them, attempting to enforce ineffective laws and fighting human nature or we can make money legalizing it and taxing it. Everyone knows the two legal sins... alcohol and tobacco... are the worst for you, the most addictive and have the highest cost socially (medical care, treatment, incarceration, etc.)
If you want some motivation go get x-rays of your lungs. The dark areas starting to form at the top of them will motivate the heck out of you, it did me. The best thing about it, the affects can be reversed quickly. I certainly feel better, though I've gotta admit I still would love a smoke, but I don't, has I've seen the truth.
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Jun 22, 2010 6:23 PM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
RANDY72
RANDY72RANDY72Ceres, California USA383 Posts
good for you...banana banana banana applause applause cheers
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Jun 24, 2010 4:35 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Non-smokers die of lung cancer!

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Jun 24, 2010 4:52 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
emannigol
emannigolemannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 Posts
galaxy15: Non-smokers die of lung cancer!

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Yes, and non-alcoholics have cirrhosis. Drivers wearing seatbelts are also dying in traffic accidents.

Risk of lung cancer is still highly elevated when smoking.
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Jun 24, 2010 4:56 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
emannigol: Car fumes aren't as addictive as heroin: nicotine is. And car fumes are rarely inhaled straight from the exhaust pipe.


...nice analogy.

I don't seem to be able to escape the car fumes though, or the industrial fumes - heroin mangles your brain chemistry...I wouldn't swap car fumes for heroin on that basis.

...sugar seems to be everywhere...

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Jun 24, 2010 4:56 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
ooby_dooby: A new law signed by the president yesterday gives the Food and Drug Administration the ability to regulate the tobacco industry. The primary focus of the law is to stop cigarette companies from aggressively marketing to children.

To that end, it will soon be illegal to:

sell candy-flavored and fruit-flavored cigarettes
put tobacco company logos on sporting, athletic or entertainment events or on clothing and other promotional items
place outdoor tobacco ads within 1,000 feet of schools and playgrounds
There are some other changes coming for all smokers, including adults:

tobacco companies will be prohibited from using terms such as “low tar,” “light” or “mild” – so-called light cigarettes make no difference to a smoker’s health
cigarette packages will carry larger warning labels, up to 50% of the surface of one side
depending on the results of upcoming FDA studies, tobacco companies may be required to reduce the amount of nicotine in cigarettes – nicotine is the strongly-addictive stimulant which makes cigarettes a logical part of the FDA’s oversight
To summarize: cigarettes, aside from the candy-flavored kind, aren’t going anywhere, though they may become less addictive.
Lawmakers have been trying to pass this legislation for over a decade. 70% of the House voted in favor, as well as 79% of the Senate.

And according to CNN:

Despite a significant decrease in the percentage of Americans who smoke in recent decades, more than 400,000 Americans still die from tobacco-related illnesses every year, the president noted. Tobacco-related health care costs exceed $100 billion annually.


Yeah, you can trust the House and Senate to pass "comprehensive" lawsroll eyes
Count the amount of lines that attack personal liberties in that "law" and you'll see where they're getting at.
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Jun 24, 2010 4:58 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
emannigol: Yes, and non-alcoholics have cirrhosis. Drivers wearing seatbelts are also dying in traffic accidents.

Risk of lung cancer is still highly elevated when smoking.


what..only the risk?

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Jun 24, 2010 4:59 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Grandepensees: Yeah, you can trust the House and Senate to pass "comprehensive" laws
Count the amount of lines that attack personal liberties in that "law" and you'll see where they're getting at.


Seems that general public is missing the point...
Don't you think?

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Jun 24, 2010 5:03 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Perhaps I should start looking at all of my risky behaviour and reassess whether I should leave my home?

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Jun 24, 2010 5:05 AM CST The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
galaxy15: Seems that general public is missing the point...
Don't you think?

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They'll get it, when they have the SWAT Team bust down their door for no apparent reasonlaugh
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